Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Graham · 27-02-2021 03:13AM

I am surprised at some of the posters who are now looking for increased government intervention in the form of some sort of state sponsored/mandated exercise program.

The same posters have spent the last 2 months complaining about the 5 kilometre rule for exercise so can't claim it's not common knowledge.

What's the story guys?

27-02-2021 04:02AM

Graham wrote: »

I am surprised at some of the posters who are now looking for increased government intervention in the form of some sort of state sponsored/mandated exercise program.

The same posters have spent the last 2 months complaining about the 5 kilometre rule for exercise so can't claim it's not common knowledge.

What's the story guys?

Glad you asked!

You see, while many here are venerable lockdown experts with every nook and cranny of the gov.ie site committed to memory and refreshed between weekend window watching, it is a fair assumption that not all citizens are so informed. Should they choose to be proactive about finding out what restrictions are in place, upon visiting the official government page related to Covid-19, they see one message. Three words.

Stay at home.

Now, they may or may not delve deeper than that to find out that daily exercise is permissible. But let's look at that scenario in a bit more depth.

Armed with the nightly news (stay at home!) and the official government website (stay at home!), you're staying home to save lives. To save lives, Graham. This is important stuff. Sure, you'd love to go out, and that website does say that you can go out for exercise. But you're not really one for the old jogging anyway and while it'd be nice to get out for a stroll, it doesn't seem like that would count. Certainly not enough to take a reprieve from saving lives, ya know? Besides, there are lots of people out walking, since it's the only thing they can really do. And outdoor gatherings are not permitted, so that must be dangerous. You'd never want to kill anyone, right? Better stay at home.

emeldc · 27-02-2021 09:20AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Glad you asked!

You see, while many here are venerable lockdown experts with every nook and cranny of the gov.ie site committed to memory and refreshed between weekend window watching, it is a fair assumption that not all citizens are so informed. Should they choose to be proactive about finding out what restrictions are in place, upon visiting the official government page related to Covid-19, they see one message. Three words.

Stay at home.

Now, they may or may not delve deeper than that to find out that daily exercise is permissible. But let's look at that scenario in a bit more depth.

Armed with the nightly news (stay at home!) and the official government website (stay at home!), you're staying home to save lives. To save lives, Graham. This is important stuff. Sure, you'd love to go out, and that website does say that you can go out for exercise. But you're not really one for the old jogging anyway and while it'd be nice to get out for a stroll, it doesn't seem like that would count. Certainly not enough to take a reprieve from saving lives, ya know? Besides, there are lots of people out walking, since it's the only thing they can really do. And outdoor gatherings are not permitted, so that must be dangerous. You'd never want to kill anyone, right? Better stay at home.

I can honestly say with hand on heart that I have never looked at the govt website or the HSE website to to get info on restrictions. But from day one of this damn thing anyone I have heard on tv or radio giving advice on what you could do and couldn’t do, always included getting daily exercise. So I struggle to visualise what rock you guys have been imprisoned under.

FintanMcluskey · 27-02-2021 09:29AM

Graham wrote: »

I am surprised at some of the posters who are now looking for increased government intervention in the form of some sort of state sponsored/mandated exercise program.

The same posters have spent the last 2 months complaining about the 5 kilometre rule for exercise so can't claim it's not common knowledge.

What's the story guys?

How could a state sponsored exercise programme work when the gyms have been shut for months?

Is that conducive to a message that exercise is important?

FintanMcluskey · 27-02-2021 09:32AM

Graham wrote: »

Why would you need someone on the television to tell you to stop watching the television and go get some exercise?

Why would I need them to tell me to stay at home in the first place?

Why would I need a daily public broadcast to tell me how many case numbers exist?

Why would I need Clare Byrne showing me where to put granny at Xmas dinner?

Why would Pat Kenny talk about joggers exhausting plumes of covid in the local park?

the kelt · 27-02-2021 09:36AM

gozunda wrote: »

What the previous poster said. our restrictions aren't 'the toughist in the western world'

And the sooner we get the numbers down and vaccines up - then the sooner we're were out of "lockdown'. It's really not too difficult to work it out tbf.

Pretty much up there mind!

https://www.irishpost.com/news/irelands-coronavirus-lockdown-ranked-toughest-in-europe-and-4th-toughest-in-the-world-204462

emeldc · 27-02-2021 09:38AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Why would I need them to tell me to stay at home in the first place?

Why would I need a daily public broadcast to tell me how many case numbers exist?

Why would I need Clare Byrne showing me where to put granny at Xmas dinner?

Why would Pat Kenny talk about joggers exhausting plumes of covid in the local park?

Maybe because some people are just seriously thick and can’t work it out for themselves.

pjohnson · 27-02-2021 09:39AM

Graham wrote: »

I am surprised at some of the posters who are now looking for increased government intervention in the form of some sort of state sponsored/mandated exercise program.

The same posters have spent the last 2 months complaining about the 5 kilometre rule for exercise so can't claim it's not common knowledge.

What's the story guys?

I'm not tbh.

Slighty suprised that the idea of excercising at home is too revolutionary to be considered.

FintanMcluskey · 27-02-2021 09:41AM

emeldc wrote: »

Maybe because some people are just seriously thick and can’t work it out for themselves.

Then remove the stay at home message

Penfailed · 27-02-2021 09:45AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Why would I need them to tell me to stay at home in the first place?

Why would I need a daily public broadcast to tell me how many case numbers exist?

Why would I need Clare Byrne showing me where to put granny at Xmas dinner?

Why would Pat Kenny talk about joggers exhausting plumes of covid in the local park?

That's what happens when you watch/listen to RTE. I don't.

Klonker · 27-02-2021 09:55AM

Has any journalist in the press conferences that NPHET hold ask why Ireland is the only country in the Europe (even world I think) that has non essential construction closed? Or why we currently have the harshest restrictions in Europe even though we have one of the youngest populations and we know the very very elderly are disproportionately effected in terms of deaths and severe illness?

the kelt · 27-02-2021 10:05AM

Klonker wrote: »

Has any journalist in the press conferences that NPHET hold ask why Ireland is the only country in the Europe (even world I think) that has non essential construction closed? Or why we currently have the harshest restrictions in Europe even though we have one of the youngest populations and we know the very very elderly are disproportionately effected in terms of deaths and severe illness?

Jeez no, are you mad? Questions like that.

Couldn’t be having that, there would be uproar, sure people don’t want to hear that kind of stuff.

Sure our health minister was trying to pick and choose which reporters would even be allowed in to ask question only a few days ago (proper order too) until that commie Fergal bowers from rte who said no it’s either all of us or none of us.

To be honest even boards need to cop itself on a bit allowing questions of NPHET and the government to be asked on an online forum, disgraceful carry on in this new normal.

Now on with ye, outtta that with your new age question asking hippie talk, get up the yard, be gone to never return (not further than 5k mind and bring your mask)

pjohnson · 27-02-2021 10:07AM

Tbf there does need to quality control on some of those "reporters"

Penfailed · 27-02-2021 10:12AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Then remove the stay at home message

If they can't work that much out for themselves then perhaps staying at home is the right thing for them to be at...?

eggy81 · 27-02-2021 10:14AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Micheal Martin is possibly the worst Taoiseach since Brian Cowen.

Common denominator = Fianna Fail.

Since Bertie even?

Elmer Blooker · 27-02-2021 10:30AM

Strumms wrote: »

HSE are advocating adequate exercising during covid..

https://www2.hse.ie/wellbeing/fitness-for-your-lifestyle.html

Are they? The first thing I saw when I opened that (black letters on a yellow background so you can't miss it) is ...
STAY AT HOME. LEVEL 5 RESTRICTIONS ARE IN PLACE NATIONWIDE.

Graham · 27-02-2021 10:40AM

Following the logic here we must have people starving all over the country not realising they can go food shopping.

Of course, that's a silly suggestion too.

SnuggyBear · 27-02-2021 10:52AM

fin12 wrote: »

I’m feeling like a caged animal and now when I see a Garda car is like this sinking panic feeling. Pure anxiety.

Have you ever been stopped? Don't be a dickhead and the worst they will do is turn you around. No need to worry about it.

Captain_Crash · 27-02-2021 10:56AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Have you ever been stopped? Don't be a dickhead and the worst they will do is turn you around. No need to worry about it.

To be fair most of them are fine and will wave you on no matter what you say... they don’t want to be doing this anymore than you or I. However, there are a small number who are loving the extra power!! I had a pr*ck of a guard yesterday trying to find any reason to turn me back despite my journey being legit and allowed as per the guidelines!

eggy81 · 27-02-2021 10:58AM

Why is everyone so afraid of the guards? They’re not going to shoot ye. Where ya coming from, or where are ya headed? Work or supermarket. Very good. Have a nice day. What’s stressful about that.

Don't Chute! · 27-02-2021 11:01AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/order-halting-works-on-sandymount-cycleway-issued-by-high-court-1.4495901

Mannix Flynn reckons the proposed cycle lane through Sandymount would lead to higher transmission of Covid due to cyclists being closer together. You really couldn’t make this **** up! Covid will be used as an excuse for ****ing everything now.

dublinbando · 27-02-2021 11:03AM

eggy81 wrote: »

Why is everyone so afraid of the guards? They’re not going to shoot ye. Where ya coming from, or where are ya headed? Work or supermarket. Very good. Have a nice day. What’s stressful about that.

I'd say the people who are anxious about garda checkpoints are those who have something to hide, like drugs or tax/nct is out or no insurance or banned drivers.

But aside from that, it's none of a gards business what I'm doing if I'm just going about my life, all they should need to know is my name and address, licence and proof of insurance. The purpose of my journey or what I ate for breakfast this morning is none of their ****ing business.

SnuggyBear · 27-02-2021 11:05AM

dublinbando wrote: »

I'd say the people who are anxious about garda checkpoints are those who have something to hide, like drugs or tax/nct is out or no insurance or banned drivers.

But aside from that, it's none of a gards business what I'm doing if I'm just going about my life, all they should need to know is my name and address, licence and proof of insurance. The purpose of my journey or what I ate for breakfast this morning is none of their ****ing business.

Infairness it's this kind of attitude that will end with being fined.

pjohnson · 27-02-2021 11:05AM

Graham wrote: »

Following the logic here we must have people starving all over the country not realising they can go food shopping.

Of course, that's a silly suggestion too.

Its starting to make sense why they are anti-restrictions. They've adopted the extra ultra-conservative restrictions upon themselves :pac:

dublinbando · 27-02-2021 11:06AM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Infairness it's this kind of attitude that will end with being fined.

Fine me, I've no money anyway!

SnuggyBear · 27-02-2021 11:07AM

dublinbando wrote: »

Fine me, I've no money anyway!

Fair enough lol

Graham · 27-02-2021 11:14AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Its starting to make sense why they are anti-restrictions. They've adopted the extra ultra-conservative restrictions upon themselves :pac:

No kidding, no wonder some are getting cranky. They've been under self-imposed house arrest for 9 months and don't exercise or go food shopping because the telly hasn't told them they can.

phormium · 27-02-2021 12:14PM

dublinbando wrote: »

I'd say the people who are anxious about garda checkpoints are those who have something to hide, like drugs or tax/nct is out or no insurance or banned drivers.

I'm not sure how true that is, I find the very idea of even having to interact with a garda checkpoint stressful even when I'm on an essential journey, I will go out of my way to avoid the known ones as it's just stress wondering whether or not you're going to get a nice one or one on a power trip that day!

I have zero to hide under any of the headings you mention or any others either.

frank8211 · 27-02-2021 12:32PM

Klonker wrote: »

Has any journalist in the press conferences that NPHET hold ask why Ireland is the only country in the Europe (even world I think) that has non essential construction closed? Or why we currently have the harshest restrictions in Europe even though we have one of the youngest populations and we know the very very elderly are disproportionately effected in terms of deaths and severe illness?

Because we have a much weaker health service than any of those other countries

doc22 · 27-02-2021 12:32PM

Klonker wrote: »

Has any journalist in the press conferences that NPHET hold ask why Ireland is the only country in the Europe (even world I think) that has non essential construction closed? Or why we currently have the harshest restrictions in Europe even though we have one of the youngest populations and we know the very very elderly are disproportionately effected in terms of deaths and severe illness?

In fairness to the government its the voters who are the problem, if they did open up you'd see SF, SD etc come crying and when you're explaining you're losing. I don't think we as a country are the smartest either.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings