Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

ypres5 · 31-01-2021 08:51PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Any bright young person should learn how to work at first, not to wait for freebies.

how do you propose the bright young people learn to work when a fifth of the population is out of work and a big chunk of businesses are shut down?

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 08:56PM

ypres5 wrote: »

how do you propose the bright young people learn to work when a fifth of the population is out of work and a big chunk of businesses are shut down?

Well the bright young people had problem with work even before covid, so I don't know.

ypres5 · 31-01-2021 08:58PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Well the bright young people had problem with work even before covid, so I don't know.

so was there any logic behind what you were saying or was it just the usual petty jab against young people?

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 09:06PM

ypres5 wrote: »

so was there any logic behind what you were saying or was it just the usual petty jab against young people?

Was answering to poster calling for emigration of young peeps. The usual petty jab against young ones is based on my own experience, availability and will to actually work is at the best questionable.

31-01-2021 09:12PM

ypres5 wrote: »

so was there any logic behind what you were saying or was it just the usual petty jab against young people?

I think he’s trying to suggest young people didn’t work before Covid when we had record numbers of employment.

Kunta Kinte · 31-01-2021 09:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe some of us want more out of life than simply surviving...

By the time we are all vaccinated, people will have lost 2 years.

Unfortunately before they have a chance to be vaccinated many will have lost the rest of their lives due to the Covid-19 virus. But then you seem to have issues comprehending that.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 09:17PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Unfortunately many will have lost the rest of their lives due to the Covid-19 virus. But then you seem to have issues comprehending that.

Which judging the median age of death wouldn’t have been very long.

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 09:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think he’s trying to suggest young people didn’t work before Covid when we had record numbers of employment.

Record numbers? Hit me.

ypres5 · 31-01-2021 09:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think he’s trying to suggest young people didn’t work before Covid when we had record numbers of employment.

so he's one of the pull yourself up by the bootstraps brigade ? that explains it

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 09:24PM

ypres5 wrote: »

so he's one of the pull yourself up by the bootstraps brigade ? that explains it

The he, is the one who works here for last 15 years, on probably low income, paying his tax etc. And reading this thread, sometimes. Reading posts here surely explains a lot.

AlekSmart · 31-01-2021 09:28PM

Boggles wrote: »

Was that the loon speaking at the 5G rally?

In this context,I can put his 5G musings aside,and instead focus on the Care Home issue....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/gp-to-close-practice-after-threat-of-suspension-over-anti-mask-views-1.4375726

He is the third doctor to come under pressure after expressing anti-lockdown views. Dr Martin Feeley resigned as clinical director of Dublin Midlands Hospital Group last month after advocating the shielding of vulnerable groups and the lifting of general restrictions. Limerick GP Pat Morrissey was this week removed as chairman of ShannonDoc after criticising the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) and saying he treats patients with hydroxychloroquine against official guidelines.

If it is of any use to the "accused" I can assure the Medical Council that listening to these contrarian views does not of itself result in my ignoring any or all of the Health recommendations,but rather instead,allows me to broaden the scope of information which informs my decisions...which surely is a positive thing ?

The President of the Medical Council expresses her view....

Dr Doyle said the council was “concerned about your attendance at public events where social distancing is not observed and your public statements, whether via social media or otherwise, which would tend to undermine the regulations and guidelines published by the State in respect of the wearing of face coverings”.

It would appear that anybody who "tends to" disagree with Government Policy regarding CV-19 now faces some extreme sanctions.

The New Ireland does indeed beckon ?

31-01-2021 09:29PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Record numbers? Hit me.

A record 2.36M had jobs in Ireland during the last 3 months of 2019.

A simple google would show you that.

Boggles · 31-01-2021 09:30PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

In this context,I can put his 5G musings aside,and instead focus on the Care Home issue....

Sure if you put aside the mass murder on an absolute epic scale, Harold Shipman was a decent GP.

Silentcorner · 31-01-2021 09:31PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

In this context,I can put his 5G musings aside,and instead focus on the Care Home issue....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/gp-to-close-practice-after-threat-of-suspension-over-anti-mask-views-1.4375726

If it is of any use to the "accused" I can assure the Medical Council that listening to these contrarian views does not of itself result in my ignoring any or all of the Health recommendations,but rather instead,allows me to broaden the scope of information which informs my decisions...which surely is a positive thing ?

The President of the Medical Council expresses her view....

It would appear that anybody who "tends to" disagree with Government Policy regarding CV-19 now faces some extreme sanctions.

The New Ireland does indeed beckon ?

No wonder you don't see them on the regular tv panels.

If you are not wondering why you haven't seen an expert give contrarian views to what we are being spoonfed, then, you need to start asking yourself why not?

As I mentioned yesterday, nobody can even point to an expert, that gets regular media coverage, that has proven to be spot on in their predictions.

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 09:32PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A record 2.36M had jobs in Ireland during the last 3 months of 2019.

A simple google would show you that.

Just post the link, you are the one throwing stats around.

ypres5 · 31-01-2021 09:36PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

The he, is the one who works here for last 15 years, on probably low income, paying his tax etc. And reading this thread, sometimes. Reading posts here surely explains a lot.

brilliant, I've done the same for 3 years while studying for my bachelor's when can i expect the sense of superiority towards younger people to set in?

31-01-2021 09:39PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Which judging the median age of death wouldn’t have been very long.

Someone else who doesn’t know what a median is

copeyhagen · 31-01-2021 09:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I find it worrying that you don’t. Think about it.

Also, it’s actually more like 99.4%. Which it seems sounds very low to you, but would in fact be 30,000 people in Ireland

all those people probably would have died from the seasonal flu

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 09:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone else who doesn’t know what a median is

I do, and having seen you comment twice about it, I don’t think you actually do

31-01-2021 09:42PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

all those people probably would have died from the seasonal flu

Is there a common place where ye go for idiotic statements?

copeyhagen · 31-01-2021 09:42PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Was asking for stats, not for "nearly" statement. Anyway, this thread is famous for downplaying effect of the virus, I just don't understand why? Unless you are running some secret club here.

ffs, the 3 figures are stats :rolleyes:

regarding the deaths, we would know if there were any transparency from the HSE and Nphet, but they drip feed inforation in a weird form of scaremongering, which works on the likes of yourself.

i think it was of 2100 deaths at the time, 2000 were underlying previously known conditions..

31-01-2021 09:45PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I do, and having seen you comment twice about it, I don’t think you actually do

It means 50% are below that number and 50% above. Simple as that. So when someone uses median to suggest that it’s only those 83 and older that are impacted, it suggests they don’t know what a median is.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 09:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It means 50% are below that number and 50% above. Simple as that. So when someone uses median to suggest that it’s only those 83 and older that are impacted, it suggests they don’t know what a median is.

Exactly.

xhomelezz · 31-01-2021 09:49PM

ypres5 wrote: »

brilliant, I've done the same for 3 years while studying for my bachelor's when can i expect the sense of superiority towards younger people to set in?

Oops sorry, I have absolutely no idea when you achieve that. But yeah I'm wrong in generalising. My bad.

Ted_YNWA · 31-01-2021 09:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a common place where ye go for idiotic statements?

mod

Out on your ear if you make another one.

Post more civilly.

AlekSmart · 31-01-2021 09:52PM

Boggles wrote: »

Sure if you put aside the mass murder on an absolute epic scale, Harold Shipman was a decent GP.

Horses for courses surely,have you any evidence to point to Dr De Brún killing more of his elderly patienets than Covid,or is that NOT what you actually meant ?

De Brún is not alone in his opinions regarding Care Home Covid management.

It has become exposed as possibly,THE greatest flaw,in the Western Worlds handling of the Pandemic.

The huge and rapid increase in Life Expectancy throughout the developed World has led to the Care Home phenomenon whereby the long established Family Unit has been dismantled to allow for mass movement,gender equality,property ownership and many other social developments.

Having overseen such a vast Social change in the placement and care of elderly people,and being fully aware of that groups increased suceptibility to infections and maladies,State Mechanisms everywhere should have moved to protect the already segregated elderly from the beginning of Covid-19.

Instead we now rely on the likes of Dr De Brún to act as some form of Conscience at arms length,something which reflects badly on more than just the Politicians...:o

monkeybutter · 31-01-2021 10:00PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

Horses for courses surely,have you any evidence to point to Dr De Brún killing more of his elderly patienets than Covid,or is that NOT what you actually meant ?

De Brún is not alone in his opinions regarding Care Home Covid management.

It has become exposed as possibly,THE greatest flaw,in the Western Worlds handling of the Pandemic.

The huge and rapid increase in Life Expectancy throughout the developed World has led to the Care Home phenomenon whereby the long established Family Unit has been dismantled to allow for mass movement,gender equality,property ownership and many other social developments.

Having overseen such a vast Social change in the placement and care of elderly people,and being fully aware of that groups increased suceptibility to infections and maladies,State Mechanisms everywhere should have moved to protect the already segregated elderly from the beginning of Covid-19.

Instead we now rely on the likes of Dr De Brún to act as some form of Conscience at arms length,something which reflects badly on more than just the Politicians...:o

What's the solution though

They need to be cared for , unless you isolate the staff also it's going to get into care homes

Elderly family members in mixed family units with children and grand children is hardly a better solution

What's the solution

Kunta Kinte · 31-01-2021 10:56PM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Or we can simply reopen and get back to normal right now

You are living in fantasy land if you believe this has the slightest chance of happening any time in the near future.

TobyHolmes · 31-01-2021 11:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a common place where ye go for idiotic statements?

Pick one

First Circle: Limbo. ...
Second Circle: Lust. ...
Third Circle: Gluttony. ...
Fourth Circle: Greed. ...
Fifth Circle: Anger. ...
Sixth Circle: Heresy. ...
Seventh Circle: Violence. ...
Eighth Circle: Fraud
Ninth Circle: Threachery

TobyHolmes · 31-01-2021 11:05PM

here we go

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/no-mass-gatherings-until-70-of-the-population-vaccinated-says-nphet-member-1073452.html

Obviously - this newest lockdown extension was EU mandated and policy to just hold the line till people get vaccinated

70% of population -how long will it take at this rate

2025?

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