Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

caveat emptor

Boggles wrote: »

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1355942468001411072

I'd say the company had a bit of legal liability coming there all right.

They probably saw this and thought twice......


https://twitter.com/simonharley/status/1355920050725728258?s=20

Multipass

Boggles wrote: »

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1355942468001411072

I'd say the company had a bit of legal liability coming there all right.

I wonder who they took them from?

Kunta Kinte

Deleted User wrote: »

When the pandemic is over, the real misery starts.
That’s when we’ll have to face the consequences of unnecessary prolonged lockdown.

And you accuse others of hysteria and scaremongering? Jesus Christ :rolleyes:

KrustyUCC

Boggles wrote: »

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1355942468001411072

I'd say the company had a bit of legal liability coming there all right.

Good stuff

We usually get 1% of the total so that's 90,000 more doses?

45,000 more people

Boggles

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Good stuff

We usually get 1% of the total so that's 90,000 more doses?

45,000 more people

Ireland's share of this would be around 99,000 bringing the expected supply from AZ to 400,000 of the 600,000 promised.

AstraZeneca will start deliveries one week earlier than scheduled, Ms von der Leyen said on twitter.

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hynesie08

Thespoofer wrote: »

Would be good if government laid out a plan according to numbers vaccinated.

For example all over 70s jabbed, full construction back, over 60s full return to school and inter county travel etc etc.

That way alot of this arguing would stop and annoying aspect of the 'not knowing'.
The fact they haven't come out and given a clear statement on it ( unless I missed it ) isn't helping.

Not saying you don't have a point, you very much do, but what happens when you have 90% of over 70s vaccinated and there's an unexpected 3 week delay? Or when all over 60s are jabbed in galway/Cork/kerry/mayo but not Dublin/meath.

I like the idea, but I don't see how it's workable.

Del Griffith

Thespoofer wrote: »

Would be good if government laid out a plan according to numbers vaccinated.

For example all over 70s jabbed, full construction back, over 60s full return to school and inter county travel etc etc.

That way alot of this arguing would stop and annoying aspect of the 'not knowing'.
The fact they haven't come out and given a clear statement on it ( unless I missed it ) isn't helping.

Any exit strategy at all and I'd be compliant.

dublin49

I think those that advocate the old/vunerable be careful and everybody else get on with their lives as before miss the point that their is a huge cohort in the young /healthy category that will not return to normal while there is a risk of infecting their more vunerable family members and friends.70% quoted this morning as in favour of current measures,suggest a majority will impose a self imposed lockdown if the country opens up too quickly.Allowing Pubs etc to open up without gaining the confidence of this majority will place the economy in a perpetual Limbo of a depressed market which long term most firms won't survive.I unlike a lot of posters am not sure what the correct course of action is but I do believe opening up is not as simple or straight forward as some believe.

Kunta Kinte

Deleted User wrote: »

The absolute irony of people to mention resilience that support hiding under the bed for 2 years because there is a mild virus out there...

A "mild virus" :rolleyes: Why do you insist on peddling this utter rubbish claim every day?

Boggles

Multipass wrote: »

I wonder who they took them from?

I imagine no one.

They are expanding capacity.

Silentcorner

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

And you accuse others of hysteria and scaremongering? Jesus Christ :rolleyes:

No, he is pointing out the consequences of all the hysteria and scaremongering.

He is right.

Any bright young person under the age of 30 should be planning to get out of here as soon as possible, there will be nothing here for them, we are gutting the SME sector where most of them would have started working...our indigenous SME sector was always fairly weak by international standards.

Then you have to factor in the amount of tax increases the working are going to have to pay....their chance of being able to rent or buy is slipping away from them.

WE were not in a great long term position before all this started, housing crisis, pension crisis, people need to wake up to what is coming down the line.

We are being led off a cliff ....

Kunta Kinte

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

A "mild virus" :rolleyes: Why do you insist on peddling this utter rubbish claim every day?

Stats prove it

xhomelezz

Silentcorner wrote: »

No, he is pointing out the consequences of all the hysteria and scaremongering.

He is right.

Any bright young person under the age of 30 should be planning to get out of here as soon as possible, there will be nothing here for them, we are gutting the SME sector where most of them would have started working...our indigenous SME sector was always fairly weak by international standards.

Then you have to factor in the amount of tax increases the working are going to have to pay....their chance of being able to rent or buy is slipping away from them.

WE were not in a great long term position before all this started, housing crisis, pension crisis, people need to wake up to what is coming down the line.

We are being led off a cliff ....

Any bright young person should learn how to work at first, not to wait for freebies.

xhomelezz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stats prove it

Lol, can you post any of those stats, so we can have a laugh..

Mr. Karate

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

A "mild virus" :rolleyes: Why do you insist on peddling this utter rubbish claim every day?

The virus, even with the new variants has a survival rate of 99.96%. This is far from the Population culler that they make it out to be.

Boggles

Silentcorner wrote: »

No, he is pointing out the consequences of all the hysteria and scaremongering.

He is right.

Any bright young person under the age of 30 should be planning to get out of here as soon as possible, there will be nothing here for them, we are gutting the SME sector where most of them would have started working...our indigenous SME sector was always fairly weak by international standards.

Then you have to factor in the amount of tax increases the working are going to have to pay....their chance of being able to rent or buy is slipping away from them.

WE were not in a great long term position before all this started, housing crisis, pension crisis, people need to wake up to what is coming down the line.

We are being led off a cliff ....

Jesus that is some next level doom mongering, you'd swear we were debt free before all this started.

Our annual debt repayments a few years ago was a touch off 8 billion, it will be 4 billion this year.

The economy will bounce back strong, the last budget was based on a No Deal Brexit and no vaccines.

We'll get on with it, but if you are "bright young person under the age of 30 should be planning to get out of here".

Have a good one, send us a postcard.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

The virus, even with the new variants has a survival rate of 99.96%. This is far from the Population culler that they make it out to be.

Talking pure ****e again. Survival rate of 99.96%?

copeyhagen

xhomelezz wrote: »

Lol, can you post any of those stats, so we can have a laugh..

195k cases, 3200 deaths, median age 82, nearly every death (when we had 2k deaths) was underlying conditions.

192k people recovered...

Boggles

Mr. Karate wrote: »

The virus, even with the new variants has a survival rate of 99.96%. This is far from the Population culler that they make it out to be.

So it's 2 and a half times less deadly then the flu?

Jaysus, Open the pubs!

copeyhagen

Deleted User wrote: »

Talking pure ****e again. Survival rate of 99.96%?

its lower than that now, 98.6% about

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

its lower than that now, 98.6% about

Sure it’s grand then.

Necro

Silentcorner wrote: »

No, he is pointing out the consequences of all the hysteria and scaremongering.

He is right.

Any bright young person under the age of 30 should be planning to get out of here as soon as possible, there will be nothing here for them, we are gutting the SME sector where most of them would have started working...our indigenous SME sector was always fairly weak by international standards.

Then you have to factor in the amount of tax increases the working are going to have to pay....their chance of being able to rent or buy is slipping away from them.

WE were not in a great long term position before all this started, housing crisis, pension crisis, people need to wake up to what is coming down the line.

We are being led off a cliff ....

Mod:

Quit it with the soapboxing of this, it really is getting tiresome to read. You are entitled to your views but ranting in this manner over and over again is not constructive or contributing to the thread in any manner

copeyhagen

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure it’s grand then.

you think thats bad?!

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

The virus, even with the new variants has a survival rate of 99.96%. This is far from the Population culler that they make it out to be.

There's those inconvenient facts again. People like "kerryman1" are cast into economic turmoil to protect a tiny minority. Philip Nolan had the audacity today to infer that heavy restrictions would remain in place until September. Leaching every ounce of hope from an increasingly fed-up populace. It's approaching time NPHET were confronted and taken to task. Easy to preach "resilience" from a lofty perch of financial security.

Spanish Eyes

EU and Von der Leyen need to be called out.

What a disaster for us in EU. Wonder has any other country complained yet.

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

you think thats bad?!

I find it worrying that you don’t. Think about it.

Also, it’s actually more like 99.4%. Which it seems sounds very low to you, but would in fact be 30,000 people in Ireland

xhomelezz

copeyhagen wrote: »

195k cases, 3200 deaths, median age 82, nearly every death (when we had 2k deaths) was underlying conditions.

192k people recovered...

Was asking for stats, not for "nearly" statement. Anyway, this thread is famous for downplaying effect of the virus, I just don't understand why? Unless you are running some secret club here.

Thespoofer

hynesie08 wrote: »

Not saying you don't have a point, you very much do, but what happens when you have 90% of over 70s vaccinated and there's an unexpected 3 week delay? Or when all over 60s are jabbed in galway/Cork/kerry/mayo but not Dublin/meath.

I like the idea, but I don't see how it's workable.

If theres a delay, theres a delay.
If one counties over 60s are not vaccinated, get them done and move on.

Kunta Kinte

Deleted User wrote: »

Talking pure ****e again. Survival rate of 99.96%?

A few here seem to be in the habit of inventing figures to suit their agenda.

Boggles

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

EU and Von der Leyen need to be called out.

What a disaster for us in EU. Wonder has any other country complained yet.

Called out for what?

If you order something online and it doesn't arrive, is that your fault?