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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #9962
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    They're looking into question of ventilation, introducing a cross-taskforce to make short-term recommendations and also looking ways in which wider population public can better protect themselves from a pharmaceutical perspective, including supplementation of Vitamin D.


  • #9963
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Patd6 wrote: »
    ...hopefully we go less than 5 deaths tomorrow...

    Whatever about cases, that would be very/overly optimistic.


  • #9964
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Random sample


    BredonWimsey wrote: »
    I didnt catch her name or paper - but the journalist named Sarah - absolutely great questions and stopped short of calling the figures misleading. Go girl!!!

    How is it misleading? People who got the virus in their county before going into hospital are recorded in their county figures. If they test positive 3-4 days into a hospital stay, there’s a good chance they came in with it, so that is reflected in the numbers.

    I think she was from the indo.


  • #9965
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,057 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Amirani wrote: »
    I've noticed this trend online a bit recently where some of the Gemma O'Doherty types think that hospital-acquired Covid is some sort of cover up and that everything else should be opened up as a result, for some reason.

    Its been a key point in the restrictions thread for a while. Apparently it shouldnt be counted as a case at all?

    Interesting to see someone tryna take it mainstream.


  • #9966
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like UK is going for quarantine for all travellers. Whether all means Ireland and Northern Ireland is another question. Guess it could include Ireland but exclude Northern Ireland as seen as internal UK travel.

    ''Hotel quarantine for international travellers will take up to three weeks to implement and cost those entering the UK more than £1,000.

    Boris Johnson is tomorrow expected to sign off plans to quarantine all travellers at a meeting of the government’s coronavirus operations committee in an effort to stop the import of variants from abroad.''

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-quarantine-hotels-not-ready-for-3-weeks-and-cost-travellers-100-a-day-7vmd6f5kc


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  • #9967
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Random sample wrote: »
    How is it misleading? People who got the virus in their county before going into hospital are recorded in their county figures. If they test positive 3-4 days into a hospital stay, there’s a good chance they came in with it, so that is reflected in the numbers.

    I think she was from the indo.


    it needs to be clear if an admission is an admission or if someone caught COVID in hospital. just be transparent about it.


  • #9968
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Its been a key point in the restrictions thread for a while. Apparently it shouldnt be counted as a case at all?

    Interesting to see someone tryna take it mainstream.


    its a legitimate question - and not conspiracy. we should be aware of where the figures come from.


  • #9969
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Random sample


    BredonWimsey wrote: »
    it needs to be clear if an admission is an admission or if someone caught COVID in hospital. just be transparent about it.

    But if they test positive within the incubation period how do you work that out?


  • #9970
    Dingaan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Anyone know if the resumption of takeaway pints are on the cabinet subcommittees agenda for tomorrow?


  • #9971
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Faugheen wrote: »
    What the f*ck is this one on about and why does it make a difference?

    A case is a case. A case in hospital is a case in hospital.


    it does matter - do you not want figures to reflect the situation.


    is it community transmission, travel, or was it caught in hospital - it matters.


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  • #9972
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Random sample wrote: »
    But if they test positive within the incubation period how do you work that out?


    i'm not a doctor but surely they can caveat or carve out the language so its clear


  • #9973
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Dingaan wrote: »
    Anyone know if the resumption of takeaway pints are on the cabinet subcommittees agenda for tomorrow?

    I don’t know, but I’d hazard a guess it didn’t make the cut!


  • #9974
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Random sample wrote: »
    But if they test positive within the incubation period how do you work that out?

    I thought it was interesting to understand tbh

    Liam Woods was a bit tetchy about it though


  • #9975
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Random sample


    BredonWimsey wrote: »
    it does matter - do you not want figures to reflect the situation.


    is it community transmission, travel, or was it caught in hospital - it matters.

    Do you think it’s possible to figure out if someone caught it on the bus to the hospital or in the waiting room?


  • #9976
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,896 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Ohhh....post #9999. End of days!!! :eek:


  • #9977
    Random sample
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Random sample


    Stheno wrote: »
    I thought it was interesting to understand tbh

    Liam Woods was a bit tetchy about it though

    Because she’d asked the questions before and seemed to think there was a cover up.


  • #9978
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    seamus wrote: »
    The same thing happened in the last two waves. All the negativity spawns these late reactions. In spite of clearly improving case numbers over the last 10-14 days, the narrative has been relentless "things are going to ****e and there's no improvement in sight".

    This leads to headless-chicken style panicking and people screaming "Ahhhhh we have to do something!"

    So the talking heads pop up and go, "Zero Covid! Quarantine! These are something. We must do them!".

    In a week's time when case numbers or firmly in 3 digits and still dropping, it'll all be forgotten about. Again.

    It's hardly surprising that after a third lockdown, people want to ensure any easing of restrictions is sustainable surely? Doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result is a form of insanity and all that..

    Cases are going down which is great. Don't see how wanting to ensure that decrease is sustainable over the long term contradicts that tbh.


  • #9979
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Random sample wrote: »
    Do you think it’s possible to figure out if someone caught it on the bus to the hospital or in the waiting room?


    everything doesnt have to be black and white. there are nuances with everything. in my opinion it is useful to know what the figures is reflecting and they can caveat or carve out to reflect the situation.


    you on the otherhand may just want to see the figures and dont want insight into them.



    thats up to yourself.


  • #9980
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Great news that downward trend has continued. Efforts of people around the country are paying off.


  • #9981
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Random sample wrote: »
    Because she’d asked the questions before and seemed to think there was a cover up.


    she was very polite - you are implying something into her questions. can someone ask a question without being labelled a conspiracy theorist because someone doesnt agree with it.


    its just a question.


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  • #9982
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Dingaan wrote: »
    Anyone know if the resumption of takeaway pints are on the cabinet subcommittees agenda for tomorrow?

    Sure you can still get them if you want


  • #9983
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    new thread incoming ;)


  • #9984
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Amirani wrote: »
    I've noticed this trend online a bit recently where some of the Gemma O'Doherty types think that hospital-acquired Covid is some sort of cover up and that everything else should be opened up as a result, for some reason.

    "Figure-hugging green jersey" in her bio on twatter.

    God I hate her smug idiotic questions like she knows something they don't and her self-satisfied tone and long meandering accusatory questions.

    Only from an Independent journalist could you get such absolutely abhorrent crap.


  • #9985
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    I like the positive numbers and the even lower positivity rate in this data.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


  • #9986
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116047088#post116047088


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