Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

mcburns07 · 12-01-2021 3:52pm

A balmy 12 degrees here in east Cork, it feels it too. So damp and gloomy.

nacho libre · 12-01-2021 4:02pm

I can't wait for this week to end for two reasons; hopefully we will be closer to a good cold spell and i will be glad to see the back of all this rain.

4Ad · 12-01-2021 4:05pm

A gloomy 10 degrees in East Clare...

daniel_t1409 · 12-01-2021 4:06pm

A completely miserable day here in wexford. Raining basically all day here. The worst kind of weather. I wish we could bring back the cold sunny weather

Gonzo · 12-01-2021 5:50pm

a cool day here in Meath, high of 5C and rain looks like it's about to get going here and much milder air following.

Oneiric 3 · 12-01-2021 6:41pm

Might sound a bit weird, and I think it is, but there is a smell of snow outside.

gerrybhoy · 12-01-2021 7:11pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Might sound a bit weird, and I think it is, but there is a smell of snow outside.

My young fella said the same there he was putting stuff in the bin and came in saying he could smell snow

Rock Lesnar · 12-01-2021 7:27pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Might sound a bit weird, and I think it is, but there is a smell of snow outside.

Well im smelling rain soi just had a look outside and low and behold, its raining

KingJeremy · 12-01-2021 8:05pm

Snow has a smell??

lolie · 12-01-2021 8:08pm

KingJeremy wrote: »

Snow has a smell??

Yellow snow :pac:

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 9:48pm

Well it’s raining and 1c at 320 metres here. So no chance of snow there.

12-01-2021 10:51pm

https://twitter.com/SeaStudio_ie/status/1349012443121545216?s=19

Zoom in
Snowdonia is always visible from croghan too here in South Wicklow and on good days from Arklow rock
Theres a very tall peak visible from croghan which I've always assumed to be snowdon
You can also roam on uk mobile networks up there

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 11:08pm

I can see the two peaks in Jura. And many other Scottish hills.

Arran

Ayrshire

Alissa Craig:

Mull of Kintyre:

I have even seen the lighthouses flashing on and off on Islay at times.

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 11:29pm

Mull of Kintyre:

Mull of Kintyre windmills:

Isle of Man:

12-01-2021 11:32pm

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I can see the two peaks in Jura. And many other Scottish hills.

Arran

https://i.imgur.com/owUONQz.jpg

Ayrshire
]https://i.imgur.com/7bHU2Gk.jpg

Alissa Craig:

https://i.imgur.com/sRnMdAk.jpg

Mull of Kintyre:

https://i.imgur.com/G0EfKiu.jpg

I have even seen the lighthouses flashing on and off on Islay at times.

In fine Summer weather down here pre satellite days,we used be able to receive BBC one Scotland
As a norm we had BBC 1&2 Wales and ITV wales (HTV) and laterally ch 5 off a simple aerial from a transmitter in Wales
The digital version off the aerial comes in perfectly from wales today now
No need for satellite
We even have DAB radio from there
Quare handy
We can't pick up anything from Northern Ireland as the wicklow mountains block it but can just about get radio Ulster on AM
Manx radio blasts in
I digress

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 11:36pm

I’m not sure about TV channels but we can pick up all the Ayrshire and Argyllshire radio stations pretty clearly.

Danno · 12-01-2021 11:39pm

Was down at the Raven in Wexford in early July 2018. Could only receive UK mobile signal!

Nqp15hhu · 12-01-2021 11:41pm

Picking up Scottish Radio from Northern Ireland’s north coast

https://youtu.be/iYwlx5jqDuM

Dazler97 · 12-01-2021 11:44pm

I seen that Dublin live has us having a beast from the east as early as the 19th

12-01-2021 11:47pm

Marco has very kindly shown us tonight the kind of air I'd expect us to be advecting late next week bringing us all a very Snowy wonderland
Just pinch and zoom Scandinavia and all points east of it into Russia

https://twitter.com/Petagna/status/1349134790532935686?s=19

Danno · 12-01-2021 11:52pm

Inland SE Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztVsafup2s

:eek:

Gonzo · 12-01-2021 11:58pm

AuntySnow wrote: »

In fine Summer weather down here pre satellite days,we used be able to receive BBC one Scotland
As a norm we had BBC 1&2 Wales and ITV wales (HTV) and laterally ch 5 off a simple aerial from a transmitter in Wales
The digital version off the aerial comes in perfectly from wales today now
No need for satellite
We even have DAB radio from there
Quare handy
We can't pick up anything from Northern Ireland as the wicklow mountains block it but can just about get radio Ulster on AM
Manx radio blasts in
I digress

probably going slightly off topic here but back in the analogue days high pressure in the summer would sometimes give us signals here in Meath that are well outside their range of transmission.

We could always get the Northern Ireland stations but would often lose them completely during warm weather. On these rare occasions I would sometimes get the welsh channels. During the summer 1995 heatwave I remember picking up briefly some stations from South-western England and even a very hazy reception of some french stations in Secam mode, the tv we had at the time was both Pal and Secam. Once the 1995 heatwave departed we never saw the french channels ever again.

Gaoth Laidir · 13-01-2021 12:04am

Yeah, I remember a few years we weren't able to watch the World Snooker final because of interference of S4C on the BBC1 signal here. Feckin nuisance. Always happened in high pressure, when ducting of the signal would occur under the subsidence inversion, allowing otherwise out-of-range signals to make it this far. It's the same process that causes anaprop on rainfall radar.

These young scuts nowadays wouldn't know what we're talking about. Think of the worst wifi you can get. That's how frustrating it was.

Donegal Storm · 13-01-2021 12:19am

Danno wrote: »

Inland SE Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztVsafup2s

:eek:

The trees were like that in 2010 around here, albeit with persistent freezing fog the entire time so never got that crazy contrast with the sky

13-01-2021 12:31am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Yeah, I remember a few years we weren't able to watch the World Snooker final because of interference of S4C on the BBC1 signal here. Feckin nuisance. Always happened in high pressure, when ducting of the signal would occur under the subsidence inversion, allowing otherwise out-of-range signals to make it this far. It's the same process that causes anaprop on rainfall radar.

These young scuts nowadays wouldn't know what we're talking about. Think of the worst wifi you can get. That's how frustrating it was.

Yup tropospheric ducting
Theres even charts for enthusiasts who chase the tv and radio signal gold it delivers
So it's actually somewhat on topic

I've the tv set to auto tune here so sometimes receive French muxes from Brittany
Regular visitors to the TV tuner would be from Cornwall and Devon

https://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_eur.html

Calibos · 13-01-2021 3:40am

Donegal Storm wrote: »

The trees were like that in 2010 around here, albeit with persistent freezing fog the entire time so never got that crazy contrast with the sky

Looked in my photo archive and this is the best of mine I could find. Photo is the morning of 28/11/2010

No chance of replication this year no matter how much snow we get as the council trimmed the branches off the trees just before CHristmas to use up their funding before the end of the year.

While looking for the photo above I came across a snow cover map for Feb 5th 2012 which I mentioned in the snow thread. It was in relation to someone saying how disgusted they were that Spain of all places was getting a dumping of snow and we got very little. I mentioned that it was when Greece and Turkey, Syria and Libya/Tunisia in North Africa get snow and we don't, thats when I get really cranky. I remembered the SNow cover map but couldn't find it that day. Feb 2012 was SSW year and the whole Northern Hemisphere got covered including North Africa and yet the Snow Cover stopped at the Welsh Coast. ANyway, my memory wasn't faulty. Feb 2012 Ireland was the most Northly snow free place on the planet by far. An oasis of green in a sea of white.

https://imgur.com/DUR5rNM

Funsterdelux · 13-01-2021 10:59am

Balmy mild morning here in North Cork, it was like a summer morning when the sun came out for a while.

Little snowy old me · 13-01-2021 11:02am

Big backtrack by the models away from cold and snow. Looking like it's game over. It was all to good to be true anyway. So it's Atlantic muck for the rest of the winter... very disappointing

giveitholly · 13-01-2021 11:04am

Little snowy old me wrote: »

Big backtrack by the models away from cold and snow. Looking like it's game over. It was all to good to be true anyway. So it's Atlantic muck for the rest of the winter... very disappointing

But but what about all those council workers getting the snow ploughs ready?

Little snowy old me · 13-01-2021 11:10am

giveitholly wrote: »

But but what about all those council workers getting the snow ploughs ready?

What's your point? They were told to be on alert.

pad199207 · 13-01-2021 11:52am

10° in Kildare. Feels positively balmy

DOCARCH · 13-01-2021 12:02pm

pad199207 wrote: »

10° in Kildare. Feels positively balmy

Touching 11c in Dublin 16 (10.9c).

First +10c temp here in nearly 4 weeks! Have to go back to December 18th.

bazlers · 13-01-2021 12:03pm

Has anyone the number of the Donegal postman ; )

pad199207 · 13-01-2021 12:04pm

bazlers wrote: »

Has anyone the number of the Donegal postman ; )

Ya dirty aul yoke

Goldfinch8 · 13-01-2021 12:39pm

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Balmy mild morning here in North Cork, it was like a summer morning when the sun came out for a while.

I would dearly love a few minutes of that North Cork sunshine here today! I have not seen a bit of sun since sometime over the weekend. The last few days have been grim, grey and predominantly wet here in this part of the west. Today is another day of the sky nearly scraping the ground again and you wouldn't even think that there were hills or mountains nearby. I yearn for those bright, crisp and frosty days of last week.

nacho libre · 13-01-2021 1:23pm

Goldfinch8 wrote: »

I would dearly love a few minutes of that North Cork sunshine here today! I have not seen a bit of sun since sometime over the weekend. The last few days have been grim, grey and predominantly wet here in this part of the west. Today is another day of the sky nearly scraping the ground again and you wouldn't even think that there were hills or mountains nearby. I yearn for those bright, crisp and frosty days of last week.

Same here. I have not seen the Sun in several days now. I know the last cold spell was frustrating in many ways, but at least we had some nice cold and dry days not this god awful muck.

daniel_t1409 · 13-01-2021 1:32pm

The sun came out for a bit earlier on this morning in wexford but it's back to cloud now.

13-01-2021 1:36pm

11.4c in Arklow
For sh1ts and giggles,open netweather or Two and read the model threads on what was a dead cert for this week...the previous week and next
Same people
Same mistakes
Same rubbish
Experts Mar dhea

nacho libre · 13-01-2021 1:54pm

Yeah as soon as I saw the latest model runs I knew there would be carnage over on Netweather. I see Steve Murr got banned from Netweather for a while.

KingJeremy · 13-01-2021 2:16pm

nacho libre wrote: »

Yeah as soon as I saw the latest model runs I knew there would be carnage over on Netweather. I see Steve Murr got banned from Netweather for a while.

So is it really game-over for the next predicted upcoming cold spell? Damn :-( I wasn’t even holding out for snow but would love a repeat of the below zero, icy and frosty conditions we had last week

13-01-2021 2:55pm

By the way T+ 168 models were wrong last week
They could be wrong last night
This situation could still easily flip and settle on a cold solution next week
In theory it should at least for a week or two
I'm going back to basics and watching the BBC TV forecasts like we did in the good old 1980s and when there's a sniff of Easterly or northeasterly off them,I'll check wetterzentrale and will be back here like a shot

Nudging 12c now in Arklow
Southwest Wind with weather systems forecast to spread from the southwest in the next few days
The Atlantic is alive and well and governing our weather as normal despite under attack from a series of strat warms,the first of which is stronger than 2018,a very weak about to be splt polar vortex, the villain that we usually blame for this kind of weather
Let's hope it's not a scamstrat we're dealing with here
We'll soon know

Gonzo · 13-01-2021 3:13pm

another horrible day here in Meath, very mild but wet and breezy. The local mean temperature is rising rapidly, was 0.4 on Monday, today it is 1.5C. It should easily get to 3C by the weekend.

murfo · 13-01-2021 3:21pm

AuntySnow wrote: »

By the way T+ 168 models were wrong last week
They could be wrong last night

Does anyone keep stats of how often patterns verify for every run past T+ 120?

Nqp15hhu · 13-01-2021 3:33pm

KingJeremy wrote: »

So is it really game-over for the next predicted upcoming cold spell? Damn :-( I wasn’t even holding out for snow but would love a repeat of the below zero, icy and frosty conditions we had last week

I wouldn’t say that.

nacho libre · 13-01-2021 3:42pm

KingJeremy wrote: »

So is it really game-over for the next predicted upcoming cold spell? Damn :-( I wasn’t even holding out for snow but would love a repeat of the below zero, icy and frosty conditions we had last week

I think a prolonged cold spell that guarantees snow as the main type of precipitation is looking less likely now. There may be slight changes, but an upgrade to a deep freeze looks unlikely. We could well have snow at times, but there will be a lot of cold rain about if the latest output is correct. Hopefully we will get cold and dry weather at some point. The Met Eireann long range forecast hints at it becoming drier into February. Hopefully, if there is no big freeze to come, that signal can be brought forward.

KingJeremy · 13-01-2021 4:01pm

nacho libre wrote: »

I think a prolonged cold spell that guarantees snow as the main type of precipitation is looking less likely now. There may be slight changes, but an upgrade to a deep freeze looks unlikely. We could well have snow at times, but there will be a lot of cold rain about if the latest output is correct. Hopefully we will get cold and dry weather at some point. The Met Eireann long range forecast hints at it becoming drier into February. Hopefully, if there is no big freeze to come, that signal can be brought forward.

Thanks Nacho. I’m ok with no snow - we didn’t get any from the last spell either. But would like another go at the freezing dry weather we had recently...not so much cold rain though :-/

13-01-2021 4:25pm

murfo wrote: »

Does anyone keep stats of how often patterns verify for every run past T+ 120?

I do sometimes
Verification of day 10 is poor
Day 5 can also be 50:50
In between poor on the detail but sometimes OK on the over arching

Nqp15hhu · 13-01-2021 4:47pm

Kinda frustrated that tomorrow’s event will fall as snow in southern Scotland only 70-80 miles away.

This happens a few times a winter. Not sure why the boundary always falls on the other side of the Irish Sea.

murfo · 13-01-2021 4:53pm

AuntySnow wrote: »

I do sometimes
Verification of day 10 is poor
Day 5 can also be 50:50
In between poor on the detail but sometimes OK on the over arching

Neeeeeeeeerd!

nacho libre · 13-01-2021 5:49pm

KingJeremy wrote: »

Thanks Nacho. I’m ok with no snow - we didn’t get any from the last spell either. But would like another go at the freezing dry weather we had recently...not so much cold rain though :-/

After 4 days of grey and damp weather, i'm ok with no snow too, a few dry and crisp days would be great. I never thought i'd say something like that:pac:

Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

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