Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

nacho libre

lostweekend3 wrote: »

All this negativity (not you nacho) is making me depressed. I’d still rather have a half decent north easterly/easterly than blowtorch southwesterlies! I’d welcome any cold spell right up until the end of February even though as you mentioned solar heating strengthens. When March comes around then I lose interest

I do get other peoples frustration though because if your expectation is ice days and several inches of laying snow on the ground this is very disappointing so far.
We are being really, really teased so far this winter so that is obviously frustrating for a lot of people.

For me, as annoying as it is to wake up to drizzle and cold rain from a northerly, as long as it stays coldish it means we are in the game for snow fall and some nice crisp dry days ahead. Like yourself, i find that much better than the default pattern of blow torch southwesterlies.

lostweekend3

nacho libre wrote: »

I do get other peoples frustration though because if your expectation is ice days and several inches of laying snow on the ground this is very disappointing so far.
We are being really, really teased so far this winter so that is obviously frustrating for a lot of people.

For me, as annoying as it is to wake up to drizzle and cold rain from a northerly, as long as it stays coldish it means we are in the game for snow fall and some nice crisp dry days ahead. Like yourself, i find that much better than the default pattern of blow torch southwesterlies.

As you say, at least we have cold crisp days and frosty nights ahead of us for the next week at least. Although for those of us on the east coast it may be greyer when the easterly takes over for a few days.

daniel_t1409

Clouded over completely here in Wexford and now drizzle is starting.

davidsr20

davidsr20 wrote: »

What about the hype around Jan 7th has that falling off the cliff now too?

Nothing has fallen off a cliff
When the PV splits,we need to see where the daughter v's go
If one drops into Scandinavia,we are in business
Modeling of the strat is great (less weather up there)
Modeling of the trop beyond 5 or 6 days poor

Humberto Salazar

davidsr20 wrote: »

What about the hype around Jan 7th has that falling off the cliff now too?

Maybe the Cliffs of Dover if not quite Moher....

Oneiric 3

Some stats from December 2020 (as taken from Met Eireann's 'Daily Data' resourse:

Top 3 warmest stations in terms of mean maxima:
Valentia: 9.9c
Sherkin Island: 9.8c
Roches Pt (one day of missing data) 9.0c

Top 3 coolest mean maxima:
Knock Apt: 6.5c
Ballyhaise: 7.0c
Mullingar: 7.2c.

Top 3 coolest stations regarding mean minima:
Mt.Dillon: 1.5c (2 days of missing data)
Dunsany: 1.6c
Mullingar: 1.7c.

Wettest station: Newport: 232.7mm (Edit: it's actually Valentia on 244.2mm)
Driest station: Phoenix Park. 79.5mm.
National average: 141.6mm.

--Met Eireann.

Snowbiee21

Yeah back to the old Atlantic muck we all love so well from around the 10th. Hopefully chances in February and March

Gonzo

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Yeah back to the old Atlantic muck we all love so well from around the 10th. Hopefully chances in February and March

it's really been very disappointing. 2 weeks of a cold spell and very little to show for it as the properly cold air remains lodged above Iceland. A very tame easterly this week with cold rain showers and a wet mix of sleet and snow possible inland parts of Leinster. Dew points will mostly be just above 0 for much of the coming week along eastern coasts so showers will be a wet mixture of cold rain, sleet and wet snow.

We've been getting nowhere fast with this cold spell so it probably is best we start a fresh from next weekend and back to mild. Hopefully the SSW will deliver us a decent cold spell in February with proper cold, instability and blocking falling into the right place.

We can see a remarkably gorgeous line of convection the length of the Irish sea from here in Arklow
Its streamer manufacturing line is definitely producing in todays uppers

Oscar Bravo

Cloud beginning to break up here just outside Castlebar with more in the way of sunshine. Cold clear night ahead.

Billcarson

Gonzo wrote: »

it's really been very disappointing. 2 weeks of a cold spell and very little to show for it as the properly cold air remains lodged above Iceland. A very tame easterly this week with cold rain showers and a wet mix of sleet and snow possible inland parts of Leinster. Dew points will mostly be just above 0 for much of the coming week along eastern coasts so showers will be a wet mixture of cold rain, sleet and wet snow.

We've been getting nowhere fast with this cold spell so it probably is best we start a fresh from next weekend and back to mild. Hopefully the SSW will deliver us a decent cold spell in February with proper cold, instability and blocking falling into the right place.

I'd always be wary of a reset though ,if we get back into a mild pattern they can be difficult to break out of as we know.
Of course the ssw could and perhaps will save us down the line.....but who knows

pad199207

Status Yellow - Low Temperature/Ice warning for Ireland

Met Éireann Weather Warning

Temperatures will fall to minus 3 or 4 degrees tonight, colder locally away from coasts. This will lead to a widespread hard ground frost and icy surfaces, with potentially dangerous conditions.

Valid: 18:00 Saturday 02/01/2021 to 10:00 Sunday 03/01/2021

Issued: 14:00 Saturday 02/01/2021

These kind of warnings always get me :rolleyes:

Oscar Bravo

From met eireann:

On this day in 1976 a severe storm moved in from the Atlantic, tracking close to Ireland bringing widespread damage. A wind gust of 157km/h was recorded in Birr, County Offaly at the height of the storm.

aidanodr

What is it with you guys and the hankering for snow

Oscar Bravo

aidanodr wrote: »

What is it with you guys and the hankering for snow

Its the buzz at the time man. Coupled with alcohol its mad crack. Ya boiii

Billcarson

pad199207 wrote: »

Status Yellow - Low Temperature/Ice warning for Ireland

Met Éireann Weather Warning

Temperatures will fall to minus 3 or 4 degrees tonight, colder locally away from coasts. This will lead to a widespread hard ground frost and icy surfaces, with potentially dangerous conditions.

Valid: 18:00 Saturday 02/01/2021 to 10:00 Sunday 03/01/2021

Issued: 14:00 Saturday 02/01/2021

These kind of warnings always get me :rolleyes:

Hopefully a clear night for its entireity and no proxy showers ruining the frost......
Looking outside this morning I was like ffs

bazlers

Looking forward to deep penetrating cold for the second half of January.

Snowbiee21

bazlers wrote: »

Looking forward to deep penetrating cold for the second half of January.

Where?

Billcarson

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Where?

Russia I'd say lol

Then hopefully it will move westwards towards us for feb

Little snowy old me

Ah well. With the return of the Atlantic regime I think we can call off this season for snow. We all know that once the mild Atlantic flow becomes established, it will never shift. And what's with the warning for -3 or -4 degrees tonight? Serioulsy, do such medicore low temperatures really warrant a warning? Very disappointed here, really thought the signs for a decent cold snowy spell were all aligning.

Roots 2020

Little snowy old me wrote: »

Ah well. With the return of the Atlantic regime I think we can call off this season for snow. We all know that once the mild Atlantic flow becomes established, it will never shift. And what's with the warning for -3 or -4 degrees tonight? Serioulsy, do such medicore low temperatures really warrant a warning? Very disappointed here, really thought the signs for a decent cold snowy spell were all aligning.

Don't worry, be happy! Be glad you don't have Covid:)

Bit premature calling off the season for snow on 2nd January. That's a bit like saying there's no way we'll have a temperature of 25C or higher this year on 2nd July.

Be happy Snowy. The granchildren are off school for another week. You might be able to spend more time with them. At any rate what does an old fella like you want snow and ice for? You could get a nasty fall. Light a nice fire and be happy:)

Snowbiee21

Little snowy old me wrote: »

Ah well. With the return of the Atlantic regime I think we can call off this season for snow. We all know that once the mild Atlantic flow becomes established, it will never shift. And what's with the warning for -3 or -4 degrees tonight? Serioulsy, do such medicore low temperatures really warrant a warning? Very disappointed here, really thought the signs for a decent cold snowy spell were all aligning.

Your Joking right? It’s the 2nd of January, still nearly 2.5 months of opportunities. Let’s see how the SSW unfolds. Hold your breath.

Hooter23

There has been no rain for days now in Galway..yet everywhere its still wet...there is going to be awful problems with ice if it gets as cold as -5 tonight

pad199207

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Your Joking right? It’s the 2nd of January, still nearly 2.5 months of opportunities. Let’s see how the SSW unfolds. Hold your breath.

I wouldn’t even accommodate that if I were you

daniel_t1409

Little snowy old me wrote: »

Ah well. With the return of the Atlantic regime I think we can call off this season for snow. We all know that once the mild Atlantic flow becomes established, it will never shift. And what's with the warning for -3 or -4 degrees tonight? Serioulsy, do such medicore low temperatures really warrant a warning? Very disappointed here, really thought the signs for a decent cold snowy spell were all aligning.

Yeah I was sure we would have had some snow by now. You're right also I think this winter is another write off. Bring on the spring, has more chance of snow than winter could ever have.

Then again February also has potential for snow.

Roots 2020

daniel_t1409 wrote: »

Yeah I was sure we would have had some snow by now. You're right also I think this winter is another write off. Bring on the spring, has more chance of snow than winter could ever have.

Bring it on...only problem is it begins on March 1st. 2 months away.

Nqp15hhu

Last year we got all our snow in February and March.

Heres the Irish sea convection as viewed from Arklow
A whole line of it as far as the eye can see

Gaoth Laidir

The only airport warnings out are for light to moderate ground frosts and weak air frosts.

(Shannon) EINN AD WRNG 01 VALID 021800/031100 FROST MOD GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
(Casement)EIME AD WRNG 01 VALID 021700/031100 FROST MOD GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
(Cork) EICK AD WRNG 01 VALID 021800/031000 FROST FBL GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
(Dublin) EIDW AD WRNG 01 VALID 021700/031000 FROST FBL GND AND FBL AIR FCST=
(Knock) EIKN AD WRNG 01 VALID 021700/031000 FROST MOD GND AND FBL AIR FCST=

Graces7

aidanodr wrote: »

What is it with you guys and the hankering for snow

They have diagnosed it as a form of.... snow blindness. A dreadful disability