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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    markodaly wrote: »
    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

    There are seriously short term thinkers on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I see the Trumpists are busy "both-sidesing" it at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,718 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Juicee wrote: »
    When the cities were being destroyed and all of the associated Murder and mayhem During summer Pelosi said she “didn’t understand why there wasn’t more”. She directly incited and encouraged the mayhem. As did CNN and a multitude of other political and media heads.

    I dont support or justify either side but it seems that People who do, like yourself, only see what they want to see

    Wow...I didn't know this

    Can you show me the actual context of it?

    Anyway, that would be about her....and if she did do this the way you are presenting it here, then it is very very wrong.

    I found:

    Nancy Pelosi

    Pelosi’s alleged riot quote — "I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be" — was said over two years ago about the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Juicee wrote: »
    When the cities were being destroyed and all of the associated Murder and mayhem During summer Pelosi said she “didn’t understand why there wasn’t more”. She directly incited and encouraged the mayhem. As did CNN and a multitude of other political and media heads.

    I dont support or justify either side but it seems that People who do, like yourself, only see what they want to see


    1. What city lies in ruins?
    2. Trump incited those riots. They wouldn't have happened had Clinton been in power.

    3. Democrats have shown incredible restraint time and time again.

    In other words ..its a bit late now ..that ship has sailed.

    Yes ..we see what we want and allow ourselves to see.

    This is very true.

    Im done trying to put things in context or correct people who as you say WANT to see it their GOP way.

    There is no point.

    There is no meeting of the minds.

    Leftests are here to support other leftests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭francois




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,280 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    listermint wrote: »
    Alex Jones lists a fortune and is a veritable no body now.


    So, ya good job.

    American libel laws are completely inadequate. If Alex Jones was in Ireland and said that Joan Burton had a secret dungeon under a deli in Leeson Street where she sold children for sex and performed human sacrifices he would have been sued into oblivion

    In America it seems you can make up any lie you like about anyone and knowingly spread it for profit with impunity and make a fortune from it.

    Not to mention his dangerous health advice, false claims about supplements and selling unregulated medical devices.

    The man probably breaks a dozen Irish laws every time he broadcasts any of his shows, in America he’s allowed to profit from deliberate misinformation because he pretends that it’s honestly held belief (only when it suits him by the way)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    The people banned on these accounts, or the actions taken by the owners of the platform are entirely appropriate given the nature of the communications which were posted on the accounts and the actions which happened in the real world.

    Should Twitter allow people to openly advertise the selling of illegal substances which can kill people if they are unlucky enough when they take them?

    Let me know what you think.

    The Ayatollah of Iran still has a twitter account?

    Islamic hate preachers still have twitter accounts?

    Black Lives Matter terrorist who burned looted and murdered all summer last year still have twitter accounts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    listermint wrote: »
    Alex Jones lists a fortune and is a veritable no body now.


    So, ya good job.


    While it's not the most scientific metric in the world, look at the most viewed episodes of the Joe Rogan show on Youtube.


    The second most popular is Alex Jones with 25m views and there is another one with him with 16m views. The most popular one? Elon Musk, another guy who has at least dipped his toe into right wing ideology.


    Alex Jones is still plenty famous and has a big following, it has just been brushed away to it's own corner of the net to simmer away unchecked for the most part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    markodaly wrote: »
    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

    Not it hasn't.

    As for claiming that Democrats moral authority is higher than anyone else. That's hardly surprising or up for debate when the 'anyone else' is proponents of the free market and the non-existent trickle down economics.

    Also, your point on Kavanaugh costing the Democrats the senate is not common knowledge, it is an opinion. And here you are pontificating about the Democrats over reaching.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    I will tell you what though.

    This is the left's 9/11.

    The death toll is not comparable. But its a slap in the face. If you were not woke before you are now.
    This "left" nonsense just feeds into the MAGA extremist. Biden and most democrats are nowhere near left wing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Your whole post is full of Trumpist falsehoods and lies. Especially this one. You believe Biden won unlikely victories in those urban cities??? You obviously have no idea about American electoral politics. :pac:


  • Subscribers Posts: 43,179 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    francois wrote: »

    Not at all surprised.

    Law enforcement need to clamp down on this and arrest these terrorists before any more damage is done.

    Deplatforming trump is a major step towards this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,280 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    While it's not the most scientific metric in the world, look at the most viewed episodes of the Joe Rogan show on Youtube.


    The second most popular is Alex Jones with 25m views and there is another one with him with 16m views. The most popular one? Elon Musk, another guy who has at least dipped his toe into right wing ideology.


    Alex Jones is still plenty famous and has a big following, it has just been brushed away to it's own corner of the net to simmer away unchecked for the most part.

    I’d rather him simmer unchecked in a small corner of 8chan or wherever he is, than have him boiling over, equally unchecked on YouTube and having his feed pushed down the throats of vulnerable impressionable young minds who only wanted to watch videos about video games (which is literally what YouTube did for the past 10 years)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Juicee wrote: »
    When the cities were being destroyed and all of the associated Murder and mayhem During summer Pelosi said she “didn’t understand why there wasn’t more”. She directly incited and encouraged the mayhem. As did CNN and a multitude of other political and media heads.

    I dont support or justify either side but it seems that People who do, like yourself, only see what they want to see
    AOC saying protests should be "making people uncomfortable"
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1334184644707758080?s=20


    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-chris-cuomo-blasted-for-suggesting-protesters-dont-have-to-be-peaceful
    CNN anchor Chris Cuomo raised eyebrows on Tuesday night when he suggested that the George Floyd protesters don't have to be "polite and peaceful."


    Yugoslaveque commentary about cleansing from MSM
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-movement-trump-supporters-following-capitol-riots
    The fact is that getting rid of Trump is the easy part. Cleansing the movement he commands, or getting rid of what he represents to so many Americans, is going to be something else."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    And when they make private websites they get their hosting struck down/compromised, but they don't have a 'right' to that either. When they try to get funded the payment processors blacklist them, they don't have a right to those too? It's impossible for anyone but big corporations to set have their own hosting, DDoS protection, payment processing etc and that's just the way they like it.

    ais27l8mpbv11.png

    Maybe you already know this but the person who makes that comic is a holocaust denier.

    Not surprising then that he would frame incitement to violence as just an issue of 'free speech'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    AOC saying protests should be "making people uncomfortable"
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1334184644707758080?s=20


    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-chris-cuomo-blasted-for-suggesting-protesters-dont-have-to-be-peaceful
    CNN anchor Chris Cuomo raised eyebrows on Tuesday night when he suggested that the George Floyd protesters don't have to be "polite and peaceful."


    Yugoslaveque commentary about cleansing from MSM
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-movement-trump-supporters-following-capitol-riots
    The fact is that getting rid of Trump is the easy part. Cleansing the movement he commands, or getting rid of what he represents to so many Americans, is going to be something else."

    Oooo



    Uncomfortable.



    Strong words that .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    AOC saying protests should be "making people uncomfortable"
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1334184644707758080?s=20


    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-chris-cuomo-blasted-for-suggesting-protesters-dont-have-to-be-peaceful
    CNN anchor Chris Cuomo raised eyebrows on Tuesday night when he suggested that the George Floyd protesters don't have to be "polite and peaceful."


    Yugoslaveque commentary about cleansing from MSM
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-movement-trump-supporters-following-capitol-riots
    The fact is that getting rid of Trump is the easy part. Cleansing the movement he commands, or getting rid of what he represents to so many Americans, is going to be something else."

    Making people uncomfortable is very different to spreading falsehoods, saying that they will never accept the result and telling supporters to march to where the election result is being certified and let the elected officials know that they are not going to accept them doing so.

    You are trying to equate a parent telling their child they have to go to bed at 8.00pm with another keeping them locked in the room all day. These 2 things are not the same no matter how many times you try to say they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Imagine being banned off Twitter at 75 years of age.the fcukin eejit.
    A bitter loser to the end.
    A giant man baby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,123 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This is an incredible listen.

    I highly recommend it.

    https://pca.st/episode/e65bc157-03d4-4880-8ed2-7006c5331013

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Well Trump's great rally and followers putting the Riot back into into Patriot has sure got the CA/IMHO Trumpists riled up and all excited. As a lurker/mainly reader of the forum had been lovely (edit: well, maybe rephrase - better than usual lol) with them mostly gone for a while there. :(

    They've crawled out from under their internet rocks (Gab etc) to grace us with "clever" US wingnut political cartoons and memes they **** over in hope of winning converts to the cult!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭embraer170


    He is in a bubble.

    This was filmed after he gave that speech inciting the rioting and was filmed backstage as they watched the rioters on a screen.

    Watch this ...that is Kimberly Guilfoyle dancing around like a loola


    Look at the atmosphere.





    On that screen in front of Ivanka ...are the riots happening in real time.



    I did a bit of research into those. Apparently they were filmed before Trump's speech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,653 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    All one has to do is read this article from just over 20 years ago to see how f^&ked up Trump is

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1069816.stm

    Ah simpler times
    Trump has been great for George W. He actually makes him look like a competent President.

    This too shall pass.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Fans of the Joe Rogan show also being fans of right wing loudmouths? I'm shocked.

    I like the JRE and I'm most definitely left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    All this talk of silencing, trumpism being hard done by what ever your slant you take like, fear the 70 million that voted for him etc..

    I did a quick search.. "Trump's use of NDA's"

    Anyone want to explain? He has fought tooth and nail against his sister to SILENCE her from speaking. Everyone that works or worked for him probably had to sign one of these things, why? The best way to be a cnut is for people not too say you're cnut for fear of being sued.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    He is in a bubble.

    This was filmed after he gave that speech inciting the rioting and was filmed backstage as they watched the rioters on a screen.

    Watch this ...that is Kimberly Guilfoyle dancing around like a loola


    Look at the atmosphere.





    On that screen in front of Ivanka ...are the riots happening in real time.



    That was from before his speech but it still doesn't make it any less disgusting. Horrible people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,280 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    All one has to do is read this article from just over 20 years ago to see how f^&ked up Trump is

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1069816.stm

    Ah simpler times
    And ironically, in this case it genuinely was a stolen election, Gore certainly had more votes than Bush but the supreme court refused to allow them to be counted

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Making people uncomfortable is very different to spreading falsehoods, saying that they will never accept the result and telling supporters to march to where the election result is being certified and let the elected officials know that they are not going to accept them doing so.

    You are trying to equate a parent telling their child they have to go to bed at 8.00pm with another keeping them locked in the room all day. These 2 things are not the same no matter how many times you try to say they are.
    The Dems didn't accept the election results in 16. We had huge upwelling of anger celebration sessions in the "Not my president / this is my pussy" riots.
    We had massive organised campaign of spreading falsehoods of Russiagate.
    It was completely bogus and an attack on democracy celebrated across the left and MSM. A proven falsehood and racist to boot. Daily attacks by dragging Russia's name through the mud using falsehoods is racism... of course it's PC racism, so that's OK.


  • Subscribers Posts: 43,179 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    The Dems didn't accept the election results in 16. We had huge upwelling of anger celebration sessions in the "Not my president / this is my pussy" riots.
    We had massive organised campaign of spreading falsehoods of Russiagate.
    It was completely bogus and an attack on democracy celebrated across the left and MSM. A proven falsehood and racist to boot. Daily attacks by dragging Russia's name through the mud using falsehoods is racism... of course it's PC racism, so that's OK.

    You do know that there was many incidences of Russian interference found as part of the Mueller report...

    Don't you??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    its over comrade, vlad is not going to pay you for january, you are on the dole or whatever the give you in the gulag


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