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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    The people banned on these accounts, or the actions taken by the owners of the platform are entirely appropriate given the nature of the communications which were posted on the accounts and the actions which happened in the real world.

    Should Twitter allow people to openly advertise the selling of illegal substances which can kill people if they are unlucky enough when they take them?

    Let me know what you think.

    Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

    People should check themselves for hypocrisy here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    BEFORE he gave the speech. Try not to get caught up in the hysteria.
    No it wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    Somebody watches Fox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,669 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    Always someone else’s fault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Juicee wrote: »
    Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

    People should check themselves for hypocrisy here
    The left should have zero sympathy for the right.

    It should be done.

    The softly softly approach led us to this point.

    Absolutely its time for the far right to be properly censored. Its well over due.

    Im a hypocrite ..fine by me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,720 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Juicee wrote: »
    Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

    People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

    I was very much against the looting and violence here

    I agreed with Trump on the take around the BLM riots....

    I could well get behind anyone not forcefully condemning these riots/protests, as therefore inciting them....I thought this at the time...

    There was a lot of deflecting...too much sitting back with inaction for my liking.

    At least Trump came out firm on it..but then a U tuen earlier this week in encouraging people to attack......madness....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,123 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    Imagine taking the time to type all that out and for it to be utter nonsense at the end of it.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    No it wasn't.

    It literally says "before he gave the speech" on the video.

    It was filmed inside the marquee Trump was in before he gave his speech. After he gave his speech he was very quickly away to safety.

    I'm not, god forbid, trying to defend the cunt here. I'm just saying stick with facts.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Juicee wrote: »
    What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

    Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

    This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

    This is an inevitability of capitalism really.

    Big tech platforms aren't public utilities. They're private companies and hence you can't force them to host content they don't want to host.

    US traditional media for years have done the same thing, they host and distribute who and want they want. This isn't particularly new, it's just bigger scale and there's more people involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    The hypocrisy of the leftist mob calling in 6th events insurrection after what they got up to last summer is simply breathtaking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    It literally says "before he gave the speech" on the video.

    It was filmed inside the marquee Trump was in before he gave his speech. After he gave his speech he was very quickly away to safety.

    I'm not, god forbid, trying to defend the cunt here. I'm just saying stick with facts.
    Im going with the 'its more important to be morally right than factually right.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    It would take me all day to answer all the falsehoods in this but I'll start with the first paragraph.

    US GDP 1980 - 2020 (last 2 years excluded

    US-GDP-1980-2020-2.png

    US unemployment 2006 - 2019

    Screen-Shot-2020-01-23-at-3.55.36-PM.png

    Can you show me the point in either graph which shows just exactly the positive steps which Trump took and the impact they had on these metrics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I will tell you what though.

    This is the left's 9/11.

    The death toll is not comparable. But its a slap in the face. If you were not woke before you are now.


  • Subscribers Posts: 43,180 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    ....

    Lazy??

    They wore nazi clothes

    The hung nazi flags

    They had nazi tattoos

    LOL

    The only lazy here is your attempt at revisionist history.

    Trump was elected because he was an unknown in a race against a widely hated career candidate from a political dynasty.

    However as trumps term proceeded it became very clear he was not fit for that office.
    His job creation was built off the back of the rape of the environment.
    His four years had done more damage to foreign relations than could have been thought possible. His best foreign policy action was to draw up peace deals between Israel and countries which weren't in an armed struggle against them.

    He stoked racial tensions in a country already severely divided and must take some responsibility for the BLM and antifa riots. He must take 100% responsibility for the failed insurrection.

    He is the worst president in my living memory, which covers 7 presidents, and I'm sure he will go down in history as the worst American president ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,851 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I will tell you what though.

    This is the left's 9/11.

    The death toll is not comparable. But its a slap in the face. If you were not woke before you are now.
    What a load of utter hyperbolic rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Juicee wrote: »
    The hypocrisy of the leftist mob calling in 6th events insurrection after what they got up to last summer is simply breathtaking

    It's breathtaking alright that you can't see the difference between supporting protests calling for the fair treatment of all people at the ends of people specifically hired to keep people safe and the refusal of people to accept democratic elections in spite of over 60 court challenges in relation to them being thrown out on the basis that there was no evidence to suggest the result was manipulated.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Juicee wrote: »
    The hypocrisy of the leftist mob calling in 6th events insurrection after what they got up to last summer is simply breathtaking

    Only 1 side attempted to interfere with and stopped the functioning of the Legislative branch of Government that I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I would say from here on in. Trumpers attempting to argue with anyone with decency ..should know ....its a useless exercise.

    They have gathered all the low hanging fruit they are going to.

    Any further 'members' from here on in will only be won with intimidation or coercion.

    Yes the man got ...millions of votes ...like 70 million? But its not going to grow.

    Not with free choice anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    Juicee wrote: »
    Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

    People should check themselves for hypocrisy here
    But if politicians removed law and order (police stood down, some areas allowed independence) from the violent rioters burning down the homes and businesses of ordinary americans, why would same people see a problem with the senate getting sacked? I mean isn't law and order a cornerstone of democracy, so if anti democratic politicians got a taste of what they incited all summer... Karma?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Movementarian


    At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

    Why was Trump elected?

    Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
    America was in deep deep sh*t.
    The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

    Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

    The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
    Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
    Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
    The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

    Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

    Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
    The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

    Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

    Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
    Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

    The national debt/deficit grew by around 36% under Trump. Cursory search on google. The opposite of 'filling it in' as you claim. Stopped reading your nonsense there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    osarusan wrote: »
    What a load of utter hyperbolic rubbish.
    Several moderate Americans have stated it reminded them of 9/11. Its been reported.

    I don't think the right have woken up to what has happened yet. I don't think people outside of America realize what has happened fully.

    At least not its far reaching affects.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Big tech is what enables alt right. Without big tech there wouldn't be the likes of Alex jones. It's not hidden.


    Bit late on this but Alex Jones has been banned off of all the major social media platforms for a few years at this stage.


    Did that make him disappear? **** no, he's still right in the thick of all this stuff and a lot of the people at the Capitol were there because he was advertising the event on his show.


    Just because you make the loud nasty man go away from your Twitter feed it doesn't mean that he and his supporters cease to exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    But if politicians removed law and order (police stood down, some areas allowed independence) from the violent rioters burning down the homes and businesses of ordinary americans, why would same people see a problem with the senate getting sacked? I mean isn't law and order a cornerstone of democracy, so if anti democratic politicians got a taste of what they incited all summer... Karma?


    Wait just a minute.

    It was Trump who incited the BLM riots.

    Without him ..and his hate speech they never would have happened.

    You can only blame the GOP for the mostly peaceful #blm protests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Bit late on this but Alex Jones has been banned off of all the major social media platforms for a few years at this stage.


    Did that make him disappear? **** no, he's still right in the thick of all this stuff and a lot of the people at the Capitol were there because he was advertising the event on his show.


    Just because you make the loud nasty man go away from your Twitter feed it doesn't mean that he and his supporters cease to exist.


    It did shrink his profile though and give him less power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Bit late on this but Alex Jones has been banned off of all the major social media platforms for a few years at this stage.


    Did that make him disappear? **** no, he's still right in the thick of all this stuff and a lot of the people at the Capitol were there because he was advertising the event on his show.


    Just because you make the loud nasty man go away from your Twitter feed it doesn't mean that he and his supporters cease to exist.

    Alex Jones has been way less influential in the public discussion space since he lost his Twitter/FB/YouTube platforms.

    He disowned Trump yesterday by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Bit late on this but Alex Jones has been banned off of all the major social media platforms for a few years at this stage.


    Did that make him disappear? **** no, he's still right in the thick of all this stuff and a lot of the people at the Capitol were there because he was advertising the event on his show.


    Just because you make the loud nasty man go away from your Twitter feed it doesn't mean that he and his supporters cease to exist.

    Alex Jones lost a fortune and is a veritable no body now.


    So, ya good job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,280 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Juicee wrote: »
    What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

    Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

    This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

    Anyone who genuinely values democracy should be very worried about this no matter why you think of trump.

    If you support this type of censorship you are very much a part of the problem.

    Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

    People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

    There needs to be a real conversation on the concept of free speech in the modern age. If I create a ‘deep fake’ video ‘showing’ Joe Biden punching a woman in the face and send it to social media knowing that it is completely fabricated but pretending that it is real. Should that be protected free speech?


    Then What about the people who see my fake video and believe it is real, and they share the video thinking that it’s true, and Biden is a violent thug who punches women in the face. These people are spreading a libelous lie thinking they have proof that it is true, is this protected speech?

    The internet is full of individuals communicating in good faith, but it is also infected with bad actors who want to use these platforms to seed disinformation, for propaganda, to foment hatred and violence and to radicalize vulnerable people to join extremist movements

    I think social media companies are banning people now to distract attention from their own culpability in this whole affair. These curated feeds, the likes of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter etc, that show people content based on an algorithm aimed at feeding addiction has had a very serious impact on the way people think. Many People are plugged into these platforms all of their waking lives and they only see the same viewpoint that they ‘like’ repeated back to them, getting distilled and refined until it becomes their entire world. QANON isn’t an insane belief if all of the information being fed to you every day reinforces that narrative. It’s literally brain washing

    I think the social media companies should shut down the bots and troll farms immediately. Then they should regulate any account that puts itself forward as a news source or ‘alternative media’
    And most importantly, they need to redesign the algorithm to change how people’s content feeds work

    There needs to be government regulation of social media to force these things or we’re going to see what’s happened in America repeated in every country on earth within the next 10 to 20 years

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Trump didn't even say anything about the police officer who died.

    Pelosi was the one who made the flag fly at half mast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭fash


    Twitter have just given Trump supporters more reason to believe the world is against Trump and them. Incredibly dangerous move they've made and to see celebs and others celebrate it is silly. Trump is a very dangerous man but the story isn't Trump it's the 75m Americans that voted for him even after the last 4 years and aren't going away in 11 days time.
    Surely this is in the interests of the democrats- those who are so feral on the republican side that they do not reject trump and in fact want more have nowhere to go - all they can do is destroy the republicans - or stop voting and destroy the republicans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Juicee


    Trump didn't even say anything about the police officer who died.

    Pelosi was the one who made the flag fly at half mast.

    When the cities were being destroyed and all of the associated Murder and mayhem During summer Pelosi said she “didn’t understand why there wasn’t more”. She directly incited and encouraged the mayhem. As did CNN and a multitude of other political and media heads.

    I dont support or justify either side but it seems that People who do, like yourself, only see what they want to see


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