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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,650 ✭✭✭✭flazio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    markodaly wrote: »
    American media picks its audience and goes from there.

    If there is a Republican in the WH, the likes of CNN and MSNBC will crank up the outrage.
    If there is a Democrat in the WH, the likes of FoxNews and talk radio will crank up the outrage.

    The open secret is that Trump has been very very good to MSM media outlets like CNN and NBC.

    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-11-23/cable-tv-news-donald-trump-fox-news-cnn-msnbc

    Now that Trump is off the stage, what else can these media outlets offer rather than consistent outrage?
    People will simply tune out and do some gardening or something, leaving a big hole in the balance sheet.

    Its like the end of the Sopranos! What will HBO come out with next? :D:D
    Biden may be many things but exciting, outragous and new is not one of them.

    And the issues is that they run with narratives instead of truth, so much blood is on the medias hands at this stage as low information viewers/readers believe all they hear and get angry in situations where if they knew the truth in the situations being "reported" they would not feel this way and America as a whole would be less divided, With out the media stoking the fires Riots would not have happened over George Floyd, Riots would not have happened in Capital Hill. Twitter has a lot to answer for also as it is a right echo chamber at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    What a joke. Big tech are almost all exclusively far left woke machines and they do not try to hide it.

    Big tech is what enables alt right. Without big tech there wouldn't be the likes of Alex jones. It's not hidden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I remember after Trump won in 2016 that a favorite meme of his supporters was the pic of the woman screaming.

    Lots of glee at telling people to get over it, you lost. Popular vote lost, who cares it the EC that's important, that's the system.

    Now look at them. Staging attempted siege of the capital, crying because twitter banned someone, saying the system is broken and their feelings need to be taken into account.

    Suddenly there is a big worry about 75m that voted for Trump. I can't recall if there was the same worry about the actual majority of voters in 2016 not getting what they wanted.

    And free speech? How many times has Trump refused to answer a reporters question simply because the network they worked for? How many interviews has he given CNN, MSNBC? He tried to remove peoples press privileges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Kumejima wrote: »
    By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country.

    Trump isn't being deplatformed. He still has Fox news and Tucker. He's just being prevented from getting his sedditionists to overthrow the constitution.
    Surely thats a good thing.

    Im all for not silencing Tucker. People need to see the crazy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I went to sleep and woke up to find all this madness.

    It's also painfully ironic to see a bunch of Republicans and Conservatives complaining about Twitter banning Trump. Those same people who support a free market, small government and keep government out of private businesses are claiming free speech is violated.

    A private platform can not violate your free speech.


  • Subscribers Posts: 43,133 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    And when they make private websites they get their hosting struck down/compromised, but they don't have a 'right' to that either. When they try to get funded the payment processors blacklist them, they don't have a right to those too? It's impossible for anyone but big corporations to set have their own hosting, DDoS protection, payment processing etc and that's just the way they like it.

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    Nothing stopping them grabbing a soap box and standing in a street corner.

    That's free speech


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Big tech is what enables alt right. Without big tech there wouldn't be the likes of Alex jones. It's not hidden.

    It's one of the great conundrums of the far right thinking plebs.

    It's grown legs and allowed more people share lies and misinformation over the last 5 years than at any point in history.

    Yet they are somehow at the same time surpressed......

    If the 2 core platforms didn't exist at all. Brexit and trump would never have happened. And mark would be out there moaning about something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I went to sleep and woke up to find all this madness.

    It's also painfully ironic to see a bunch of Republicans and Conservatives complaining about Twitter banning Trump. Those same people who support a free market, small government and keep government out of private businesses are claiming free speech is violated.

    A private platform can not violate your free speech.

    Trump can say whatever he wants. It doesn't mean Twitter or any other platform have to broadcast it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    flazio wrote: »

    Says Rudy, while butt dialing another reporter and then farting down the phone.

    It's the same BS argument from Republicans. They want certain rights but aren't prepared to take responsibility for those rights. They're like teenagers.

    They want guns but don't want them taken away when there's a mass shooting.

    They want free speech but don't want the responsibility of having that taken away when it incites a riot.

    Everyone has rights under the constitution but when those rights affect others in a dangerous way, this rights are subject to being taken away.

    Trump and his a hole buddies received multiple warnings. This didn't happen out of the blue.

    People literally died as a direct result of what Trump et al did. There's no question of that and it is more likely that more people will die unless Trump's rhetoric was and is stopped.

    It is like taking the keys off a drunk driver after he's run over a few people. Taking the keys away is the right thing to do, but you'd have some idiot Republican screaming "i have a driver's licence!".

    Reminds me of that scene from Southpark - " oh I'm sorry. I thought this was america!"

    Anyhoo, this was funny

    https://twitter.com/faination/status/1347734360355528705?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    markodaly wrote: »
    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

    Yawn and if trump had been running against anyone but Clinton he wouldn't have won either.

    The man is a laughing stock and a disgrace of a human being, who has clear psychological problems. He should never have been allowed hold office in the first place.

    You with a straight face think Trump is fit for a second term?

    Him and his family should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I said this before going to bed last night

    https://twitter.com/ErinBrockovich/status/1347700082704003079?s=19

    People on here seem to forget that there are rules of being on boards ffs. They should understand this situation and what has happened. Go check out the rules for being on here.

    For Trump, it's more about that twitter was effective for him to spout bs to people who would never pick up a paper or even fact t check what he says, than host a press conference and be challenged by reporters.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Yawn and if trump had been running against anyone but Clinton he wouldn't have won either.

    The man is a laughing stock and a disgrace of a human being, who has clear psychological problems. He should never have been allowed hold office in the first place.

    You with a straight face think Trump is fit for a second term?

    Him and his family should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    I don't think that's even a concern.


    He's a beacon, trump represents all of their gripes with the world and their place in it. Literally anger personified. He doesn't even have to offer solutions to their problems.


    Just 'be' just 'exist'


    They love the anger part .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Too little, too late with the Twitter ban at this stage. Just reinforces the conspiracy theory amongst his supporters. Trump has been moving his campaign to the likes of Parlour for months now.

    His supporters get their news and content from the likes of Parlour now, which no responsible persons have any control over. Twitter and Facebook are just used for trolling.

    Expect a massive upsurge in the use of Parlour. I'm considering getting it myself as someone who likes to keep abreast of what is being discussed amongst Trump supporters and right wing extremists in general.

    It's important that we know what their narrative is. Driving discussion underground and pretending it isn't happening is just asking for a catastrophe to happen.

    The parler app is banned/going to be banned

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    markodaly wrote: »
    Maybe my comment was wasted seeing as some just want to vent and slay some dragons.

    Personally, it will be interesting to see come the latter half of the year how the people can sustain the same level of outrage when the evil one, Trump will be well gone from the scene.

    Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

    I'm far more interested to see how many days it takes for trump supporters and enablers to get upset about "the other side" doing things they've actively been cheering on.

    Just look at the people who are giving out about freedom of speech for example (on a private platform no less), but where were they when the actual peaceful protesters were being assaulted up and down the US over the summer, including gassing the clergy outside their own church? Were they screaming from the rooftops about their freedom of speech?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,133 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    For a guy who gave press briefings against the sound of a running helicopter, refused to take questions, censored journalists and incited hatred against them by calling them "fake news"...

    Well this is simply just one more case of "what trump accuses you of, he is himself"

    His whole political career is painted with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭francois


    Funny how 44 previous presidents managed without twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭francois


    I'm far more interested to see how many days it takes for trump supporters and enablers to get upset about "the other side" doing things they've actively been cheering on.

    Just look at the people who are giving out about freedom of speech for example (on a private platform no less), but where were they when the actual peaceful protesters were being assaulted up and down the US over the summer, including gassing the clergy outside their own church? Were they screaming from the rooftops about their freedom of speech?

    It's always playing the victim with them. The fake outrage by tge free speech warriors is hilarious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Congrats to twitter for making sure we get a much worse version of Trump in 4 years time.



    They just couldn't help themselves and they had to pull the trigger early. They've played right into the narrative that he and his supporters are being silenced.

    If hes impeached then he cant run in 4 years time

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    For a guy who gave press briefings against the sound of a running helicopter, refused to take questions, censored journalists and incited hatred against them by calling them "fake news"...

    Well this is simply just one more case of "what trump accuses you of, he is himself"

    His whole political career is painted with it

    In the last 4 years or so, I must have referred to this phrase at least ten times on these threads.

    'Accuse others of that which you are guilty'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I remember after Trump won in 2016 that a favorite meme of his supporters was the pic of the woman screaming.

    Lots of glee at telling people to get over it, you lost. Popular vote lost, who cares it the EC that's important, that's the system.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The parler app is banned/going to be banned
    Its been booted of the play store, Apple are gonna do the same if they dont begin moderation, also Amazon are looking into nuking their AWS hosting anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    francois wrote: »
    It's always playing the victim with them. The fake outrage by tge free speech warriors is hilarious.

    This is coming from the same president who stood at the podium at his rallies and promised to alter libel laws so he could more easily sue those that sad anything bad about him.

    Hypocrisy really is the greatest luxury

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,692 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I'm in the minority but I think its important enough for all to see his madness and evil to leave him on Twitter. It's his historical record and he needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history, which in turn needs to be sunk in concrete somewhere deep like the Mariana's trench.

    Maybe kick him off twitter post-Inauguration, but not before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,488 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Igotadose wrote: »
    I'm in the minority but I think its important enough for all to see his madness and evil to leave him on Twitter. It's his historical record and he needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history, which in turn needs to be sunk in concrete somewhere deep like the Mariana's trench.

    Maybe kick him off twitter post-Inauguration, but not before.

    The problem is if it's inciting violence or sedition then it's a danger to the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I'll just leave this here for the free speech crowd.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,653 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    markodaly wrote: »

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.
    .

    Most decent good people fear him...

    He is a fooking scumbag. Madman..

    Hell bent on hate/division/combat and polarisation.

    Propped up and encouraged and facilitated by many!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,138 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Aha Trump and his cronies + their private shìte site Parler all being nuked is hilarious.

    Trolls now have to move back under thier bridges. Their moment in mainstream ended in disgrace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It's another wake up call. They will continue to take away our freedoms. Even the president of the United States has been silenced by the Luciferian worshipping illuminati. The next step is to call the preaching of the gospel as hate speech. They are currently building the third temple in Israel to coincide with the arrival of the antichrist. It is all lining up as per bible revelation.

    You definitely meant to post this in the Conspiracy Theories forum.


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