Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

quokula wrote: »

Yeah this is very true, a lot of people just don't give a crap about spreading it as long as it's only other people that die. If it was more lethal there would be way more compliance and it would be easier to control.

Reminds me of that old Twilight Zone episode, would you press a button that gives you a million dollars but kills a random stranger? Covid has shown there's a significant cohort of people who'll happily hammer that button all day long, and for a lot less too.

Not to derail thread but when you look at WW2 and psychological experiments in general on people who wear uniforms, people will do horrible things and sort of absolve themselves of blame when its an accepted norm. "I was doing my job" or some sort of self justification is usually applied.

But you put uniforms on people and tell them they have the authority to do x, y and Z, then it becomes acceptable. The same thing applies in society, when society deems something acceptable (Church covering up crimes), then nobody addresses it. Its remarkable how quickly we as a species can forget the atrocities and issues we dish out on our fellow man. I think this is where the disconnection comes from, "the people doing bad things are not like me, I wouldnt do that". People are people and in different environments alot of us do not know how we would react.

What will people in 100 years be looking back on now as our great sin ? Ignorance ? Hubris ? Have we enjoyed such a relatively quiet period (war wise) that we are complacent to our own flaws ? Look at some of the big headlines before COVID and ask ourselves are the things that were getting big news really pathetic in comparison to a truly global issue such as this ? Have we become too soft and self centered where shaming people into rigid political correctness has been one of "the great issues" of our generation ? People's feelings getting hurt is forcing far more policing of speech, where will that end up ?

One thing I have learned from decades of therapy and trying out meditation and plenty of other methods of trying to sort myself out, is that when I am blaming others (which I still do) I am not looking at my role in an issue. I am human and suffer all the defects that I speak about, so I am not judging everybody else on a level I do not judge myself. If everybody was able to honestly appraise their own motives and actions then the world would be a much better place. But we lie to ourselves all the time, what we intrepret in our lives is through our own bias eyes that filters information to suit ourselves and is often flawed. But you see it in here. Its the governments fault. Its NEPHETs fault. Its young peoples fault.

Its human behavior driving the speed of the spread as much as anything else that can be singled out. If young people are driving the spread, what have they learned from their parents that makes them think its ok to act so irresponsibly ? We are all responsible for the mess we are in and what is worse is if we do not learn anything from this situation. Unfortunately a lot of people do not want to learn anything, they know what they know and particularly if a point of view suits them, they will refuse to amend their opinions. Then what usually happens is people attack posters who are posting information that people do not like. Its a chronic failing to objectively assess information and an instinct to lash out to avoid productive debate.

In summary, I didnt see that Twilight Zone episode, how did it end ?