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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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    #242
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I imagine community positivity is the community referrals from Tom Dick and Harry and not the normal testing done in hospitals etc.


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    #243
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    petes wrote: »
    All the experts have said this?

    I doubt it. Maybe the experts who want to be on the radio for more months. The reality is if the most vulnerable in society are immunised against this virus then restrictions will have to be lifted. Every additional day that the Govt has the economy on life support when this happens will have long term economic and societal impacts.


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    #244
    Stheno
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes they do

    I know a neighbour who's nephew came back to Kerry for Christmas

    Test one negative, test two positive

    Resulted in 4 more positives in the family

    Are any of them sick and needing hospital?


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    #245
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I am saying we are not comparing like with like at the moment...

    3 weeks ago we were doing around 10,000 tests a day at positivity rate of around 3%.

    Now we are doing over 20,000 tests a day at positivity rate of around 5-5.5%

    Things have obviously deteriorated and we need tightening of restrictions but the situation has not worsened to the level the daily case numbers would suggest

    Could you explain that further please?, I genuinely don't understand what you are saying there.


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    #246
    ninebeanrows
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Could you explain that further please?, I genuinely don't understand what you are saying there.


    If we were doing 20,000 tests 3 weeks ago, the numbers would have been twice as high as they were then!!


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    #247
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    You may well be right but where did that figure come from?

    No where tbh, my own estimation. 30 or so admissions a day. So 210 in one week. It could well be be worse.


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    #248
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    Are any of them sick and needing hospital?

    No thankfully

    That +5 in the case column though


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    #249
    Stheno
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    No thankfully

    That +5 in the case column though

    Sure but if they are not sick and are isolating thats good

    I wonder how many other cases like this are out there

    30k people came in from the UK and of course there is no tracing of them


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    #250
    jackboy
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    I doubt it. Maybe the experts who want to be on the radio for more months. The reality is if the most vulnerable in society are immunised against this virus then restrictions will have to be lifted. Every additional day that the Govt has the economy on life support when this happens will have long term economic and societal impacts.

    6 to 9 months minimum before any impact on restrictions. Nothing the government can do about that.


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    #251
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    jackboy wrote: »
    6 to 9 months minimum before any impact on restrictions. Nothing the government can do about that.

    Can you answer my question? All the experts have said this?


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    #252
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    jackboy wrote: »
    6 to 9 months minimum before any impact on restrictions. Nothing the government can do about that.

    Wet pubs will be open in April/May.


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    #253
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭jackboy


    petes wrote: »
    Can you answer my question? All the experts have said this?

    Yes and I haven’t heard any expert who has said otherwise. People need to hear the truth as they are getting demoralised with endless false dawns.


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    #254
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    Sure but if they are not sick and are isolating thats good

    I wonder how many other cases like this are out there

    30k people came in from the UK and of course there is no tracing of them

    Quite a lot I fear

    There's quite a lot of people have arrived into Limerick over the last few weeks from England and a sizeable portion of them have not been isolating

    I know of one case in rural west cork where a lad came off the flight in Cork at 15.30 and was out in a house party by 21.00

    He tested positive a few days later


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    #255
    petes
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    jackboy wrote: »
    Yes and I haven’t heard any expert who has said otherwise. People need to hear the truth as they are getting demoralised with endless false dawns.

    Strong statement to say all experts and it's also complete bull****. My guess is you are only referring to one or two who say things to fit in to your own narrative.


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    #256
    Charles Babbage
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    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I am saying we are not comparing like with like at the moment...

    3 weeks ago we were doing around 10,000 tests a day at positivity rate of around 3%.

    Now we are doing over 20,000 tests a day at positivity rate of around 5-5.5%

    Things have obviously deteriorated and we need tightening of restrictions but the situation has not worsened to the level the daily case numbers would suggest


    Things have deteriorated to the extent the case numbers would suggest. The increased testing simply reflects that more cases have more contacts. If you had tested this number 2 weeks ago you would not have got this number of cases.


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    #257
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    oldtimeyfella wrote: »
    We only have a handful of doses. It's going to make **** all difference for a good long while.

    Unfortunately, you and a few others are missing the point.


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    #258
    seamus
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Crazy numbers, If the r rate does not lower soon. Were in for a third wave worse than many predicted.

    https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1343159824910077953
    I don't really trust anything coming from Paul Reid tbh. His reporting and interpretation of numbers has been at best remedial in the past.

    I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt until we have data on Tuesday.


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    #259
    ninebeanrows
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    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Things have deteriorated to the extent the case numbers would suggest. The increased testing simply reflects that more cases have more contacts. If you had tested this number 2 weeks ago you would not have got this number of cases.
    Of course not but let's take an example day of November 25 when 362 swabs were positive, if you tested twice the number of people at the same positive rate you would have 724 positive swabs...

    that is the level of deterioration at the moment...

    724 positives equivalent on 25 November to around 1266 on Christmas Eve, if you level things out for the increase in testing.


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    #260
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    New UK variant of the Virus estimated to be an Ro of 4.3


    https://twitter.com/tomaspueyo/status/1342987065605152769


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    #261
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    wadacrack wrote: »
    New UK variant of the Virus estimated to be an Ro of 4.3


    https://twitter.com/tomaspueyo/status/1342987065605152769

    Firstly, that guy is a random poster on Twitter. Second, 4.3 is the high end of the estimate posted.


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    #262
    podgeandrodge
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Firstly, that guy is a random poster on Twitter. Second, 4.3 is the high end of the estimate posted.

    Same poster on twitter says: "normally, virus mutations that prevail are worse for humans across several dimensions: they tend to be not just more infectious, but also more deadly" - I didn't think that was the case.


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    #263
    SusanC10
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    Is there any update on whether the new UK variant is worse for children that the previous one ?


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    #264
    wadacrack
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Firstly, that guy is a random poster on Twitter. Second, 4.3 is the high end of the estimate posted.

    Hes not some randomer. This article predicted what would happen since March and has over 16 million views. Was shared everywhere at the time by highly respected scientists

    https://tomaspueyo.medium.com/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56


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    #265
    TonyMaloney
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    seamus wrote: »
    I don't really trust anything coming from Paul Reid tbh. His reporting and interpretation of numbers has been at best remedial in the past.

    I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt until we have data on Tuesday.

    It's pretty damning that this is one of the very few things almost everyone will agree with.


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    #266
    RGARDINR
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    I presume pubs will probably open end of February and be closed again for paddy's day etc. Will probably be all that crap again on the run up to it will the parade go ahead or not. Wonder when the decision for that will be made or just leave it super close to it again as I cannot imagine they will want to have thousands from across the globe coming into Ireland then. They should just state early in the new year the parade is not happening in 2021 and should be back on track in 2022. Leave it closer to the time to decide on pubs.


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    #267
    sterz
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    Who the hell even thinks parades are on the cards?


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    #268
    Happydays2020
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    sterz wrote: »
    Who the hell even thinks parades are on the cards?

    Should be banned for eternity, but expect to see one again in 2022.


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    #269
    FinglasFollain
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    Deleted post: not worth it due to the people who’ve tried to start arguments based on a persons death. Thanks Hmmm and your loyal band of weirdo thankers like ElJeffe. Have a ****, release your anger.


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    #270
    Stheno
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    RGARDINR wrote: »
    I presume pubs will probably open end of February and be closed again for paddy's day etc. Will probably be all that crap again on the run up to it will the parade go ahead or not. Wonder when the decision for that will be made or just leave it super close to it again as I cannot imagine they will want to have thousands from across the globe coming into Ireland then. They should just state early in the new year the parade is not happening in 2021 and should be back on track in 2022. Leave it closer to the time to decide on pubs.

    Pubs aftrr Paddy's day at the earliest id say

    There will be no parades imo

    Whens the last time we'd a bank holiday with no restrictions in place?

    I don't think we've had a single one this year


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    #271
    froog
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    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Same poster on twitter says: "normally, virus mutations that prevail are worse for humans across several dimensions: they tend to be not just more infectious, but also more deadly" - I didn't think that was the case.

    it isn't. it's the exact opposite. evolution favours more infectivity, less deadly/symptomatic. all the virus wants to do is spread.


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