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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Just on that, a point that I think tends to be overlooked; Fine Gael, the most "conservative" mainstream Irish party had a referendum to legalise divorce, then another 10 years later to try again and another to loosen the restrictions. And they had the referendum to legalise gay marriage. And to legalise abortion.

    Not to mention, Fine Gael has a gay leader, something no US Party will perhaps nominate for at least a few more cycles, it was good to see Pete Buttigieg who was, and is, a good candidate at least make the primaries, and he may have chances in the future. But all our parties bar Gemma O'D and her nutcases are soo far to the left of even the democrats there is no comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Seanachai wrote: »
    Do the testimonies from challengers and observers not seem credible at all to you?

    Did you miss the post directly above yours?

    Here's a reminder:

    https://twitter.com/TepidButterASMR/status/1333862192928731142?s=19

    Which of those "testimonies" seem credible to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Midlife wrote: »
    We have a lot in common with the US. There are parts we admire and look up to.

    Then there's parts of the country that are totally nuts to us.

    Sadly, the parts we can admire are being trashed and the whole thing is becoming exponentially more nuts Every.Single.Day.

    So sad to see an Empire falling apart before our very eyes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Seanachai, have you the link for the video with this "woman of Indian descent"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Seanachai, have you the link for the video with this "woman of Indian descent"?

    https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1334316061605421059


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,999 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Inquitus wrote: »


    Heres an example of everyday racism i face..... also im equally as racist to other people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Heres an example of everyday racism i face..... also im equally as racist to other people

    There is some Science behind this, if you were raised in a predominately Ethnic A society you will be worse at distinguishing and remembering Ethnic B faces, this does however go both ways. As cultures have become more integrated however our brains get much better at this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2011/aug/15/people-other-races-look-alike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,999 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Inquitus wrote: »
    There is some Science behind this, if you were raised in a predominately Ethnic A society you will be worse at distinguishing and remembering Ethnic B faces, this does however go both ways. As cultures have become more integrated however our brains get much better at this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2011/aug/15/people-other-races-look-alike


    Ohh i know the science its just this is testimony is in my opinion coming more from a racist view while similarly complaining about racism towards them and i loved the hypocrisy


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Inquitus wrote: »
    There is some Science behind this, if you were raised in a predominately Ethnic A society you will be worse at distinguishing and remembering Ethnic B faces, this does however go both ways. As cultures have become more integrated however our brains get much better at this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2011/aug/15/people-other-races-look-alike
    VinLieger wrote: »
    Ohh i know the science its just this is testimony is in my opinion coming more from a racist view while similarly complaining about racism towards them and i loved the hypocrisy

    Well - She does say - "If some CHOW comes along, they could be anybody, I mean how would you know"

    Chow - Doesn't even have the self-awareness to not use the racist epithet at a televised public hearing , nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,169 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So not only are the trump lawyers quoting the movie my cousin vinny to make legal arguments but now they have found the real life version of one of Cecily strong’s characters from SNL during a hearing in Michigan ffs. And the funny thing is that Rudy guilianni was trying to reign her in. Rudy is now the voice of reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So not only are the trump lawyers quoting the movie my cousin vinny to make legal arguments but now they have found the real life version of one of Cecily strong’s characters from SNL during a hearing in Michigan ffs. And the funny thing is that Rudy guilianni was trying to reign her in. Rudy is now the voice of reason.

    Welp, thats it...we didnt think 2020 had anything left, but....we have literally entered the Twilight Zone now!

    In what fantastical world do these supposed learned individuals think putting people with such insane theories into a court of law will somehow work in their favour? Is it just to keep cases going so daddy Don could slap "Election is still under doubt, now ignore the publics votes and election college and all that dumb democracy stuff just say I'm President again!" into the faces of Republican lawmakers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,055 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://twitter.com/marisakabas/status/1334315220815278080?s=24

    If you had this woman show up to testify defence for a parking ticket, you would go to jail. Christ almighty, this is what Trump is using...


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Gintonious wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/marisakabas/status/1334315220815278080?s=24

    If you had this woman show up to testify defence for a parking ticket, you would go to jail. Christ almighty, this is what Trump is using...

    Let's also not forget that the "affidavit" that she keeps talking about was dismissed in court a few weeks ago
    as "simply not credible.”
    Judge Kenny had also rejected that story, saying that Ms. Carone’s description of the events at a vote counting center in Detroit “does not square with any of the other affidavits” and that her “allegations simply are not credible.”


    They've already been laughed out of court with her evidence , yet they roll her out again here..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    Even Rudy is trying to hold her back. Jeez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,867 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Quin_Dub wrote: »

    Let's also not forget that the "affidavit" that she keeps talking about was dismissed in court a few weeks ago
    as "simply not credible.”




    They've already been laughed out of court with her evidence , yet they roll her out again here..

    The best is every time they get laughed out of court we get the Trump zealots telling us that "yeah, but the next case is the big one"

    How anyone can't see through this charade at this stage deserves to lose any money they give to Don the con.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    How much did he raise to battle this in the courts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    The best is every time they get laughed out of court we get the Trump zealots telling us that "yeah, but the next case is the big one"

    How anyone can't see through this charade at this stage deserves to lose any money they give to Don the con.

    Anyone would begin to question why they didn't start with the really really solid evidence. Strange approach alright, but little by little I'm sure they'll come up with something that isn't total utter scuttery nonsense, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    How much did he raise to battle this in the courts?

    My guess would be that they raised a lot more than the cost of the various court cases and showcase fake 'hearings'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    check_six wrote: »
    My guess would be that they raised a lot more than the cost of the various court cases and showcase fake 'hearings'.

    $170 million raised so far, of which $150 million goes nowhere near the legal 'fights', given that the first $5,000 or so of each donation for the 'legal fund' is going instead on paying off RNC /Campaign debts and adding to another Trump PAC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Gintonious wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/marisakabas/status/1334315220815278080?s=24

    If you had this woman show up to testify defence for a parking ticket, you would go to jail. Christ almighty, this is what Trump is using...

    I've got a feeling that "I signed something that can get me sent to prison" attempt at virtue signalling is reeeeeaaalllly going to come back to bite her in the ass.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    $170 million raised so far, of which $150 million goes nowhere near the legal 'fights', given that the first $5,000 or so of each donation for the 'legal fund' is going instead on paying off RNC /Campaign debts and adding to another Trump PAC.

    A Trump PAC which undoubtedly rents a lot of space from the Trump hotel or office company.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Question - If either or both of the GOP candidates in Georgia were to lose the run-off elections , It's fair to say that they will almost certainly follow the Trump plan and appeal/challenge every possible thing.

    What happens to the Seats in the Senate during that timeframe and how long can they drag it out?

    For example , lets say the Democrats take both seats - When do those winners take their seats and when is the vote for the leader of the Senate and would that be the deadline for any challenges to be resolved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Question - If either or both of the GOP candidates in Georgia were to lose the run-off elections , It's fair to say that they will almost certainly follow the Trump plan and appeal/challenge every possible thing.

    What happens to the Seats in the Senate during that timeframe and how long can they drag it out?

    For example , lets say the Democrats take both seats - When do those winners take their seats and when is the vote for the leader of the Senate and would that be the deadline for any challenges to be resolved?

    That's a great question.

    AFAIK, the current Senate ends on January 3rd. Accordingly, I'm assuming both Loeffler and Perdue are no longer Senators on that date. So, from 3rd January until such time as election results are certified and then the incoming Senators take their seats, GA will be without a sitting Senator.

    Now, there may be some law whereby the Governor may appoint someone on a temporary basis while the election plays out- I don't know. He did appoint Loeffler on that basis, but that was in 2019, with more than a year to go to an election. Would that be done to keep a seat warm for.just a few days or weeks? I don't know. But nothing would surprise me.

    In any event, the 'interregnum' is unlikely to help Democrats one way or the other, unless Mc Connell and Pence preside over shenannigans and some 'honourable' GOPpers cross the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,755 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Biden is really trying to tick all the boxes with his appointments.
    He has named a historic all-female senior White House press staff, with four of the seven appointees women of color.

    The faces of the economic team include an African American woman, a man born in Nigeria, an Indian American woman and just one white man.

    I guess he has to pay BLM back for all their trojan work in the last 8 months, he wouldn't be President Elect but for them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Your post is all over the place, MisterAnarchy. Are you saying that these people are unqualified? Or that they are "members" of BLM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,755 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I do not believe these people were selected based on qualifications and experience.
    Its wokery identity politics, picking people because of their race and gender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    How much did he raise to battle this in the courts?

    Fully explained here:



    Practically nothing... 60% goes to Trump's Save America PAC (<slush fund, not for wasting on useless court cases)
    40% goes to the the RNC
    basically 0% funding for the legal cases, a total con.


    Think they are "funding" the "Subvert the Peoples Vote/ Dismantle the US Democracy" campaign with loose change they find at the back of the couch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    GEORGIA:
    2,056
    felons illegally voted
    66,248
    under 18 voted
    2,423
    weren’t registered at all
    1,043
    used a PO Box
    4,926
    voted past the reg. date
    10,315
    died before the election
    395
    voted in two states
    15,700
    moved out of state
    40,279
    changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    He has named a historic all-female senior White House press staff

    You're quoting a BS WAPO story. Let me follow up with who these based pedes are? I'll answer, just in case someone doesn't get it. This is Trumps current Senior Whitehouse Press Staff. I kid you not.

    535100.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    OS_Head wrote: »
    GEORGIA:
    2,056
    felons illegally voted
    66,248
    under 18 voted
    2,423
    weren’t registered at all
    1,043
    used a PO Box
    4,926
    voted past the reg. date
    10,315
    died before the election
    395
    voted in two states
    15,700
    moved out of state
    40,279
    changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i

    Your guy lost, get over it


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