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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Your post is all over the place, MisterAnarchy. Are you saying that these people are unqualified? Or that they are "members" of BLM?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I do not believe these people were selected based on qualifications and experience.
    Its wokery identity politics, picking people because of their race and gender.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    How much did he raise to battle this in the courts?

    Fully explained here:



    Practically nothing... 60% goes to Trump's Save America PAC (<slush fund, not for wasting on useless court cases)
    40% goes to the the RNC
    basically 0% funding for the legal cases, a total con.


    Think they are "funding" the "Subvert the Peoples Vote/ Dismantle the US Democracy" campaign with loose change they find at the back of the couch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    GEORGIA:
    2,056
    felons illegally voted
    66,248
    under 18 voted
    2,423
    weren’t registered at all
    1,043
    used a PO Box
    4,926
    voted past the reg. date
    10,315
    died before the election
    395
    voted in two states
    15,700
    moved out of state
    40,279
    changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    He has named a historic all-female senior White House press staff

    You're quoting a BS WAPO story. Let me follow up with who these based pedes are? I'll answer, just in case someone doesn't get it. This is Trumps current Senior Whitehouse Press Staff. I kid you not.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    OS_Head wrote: »
    GEORGIA:
    2,056
    felons illegally voted
    66,248
    under 18 voted
    2,423
    weren’t registered at all
    1,043
    used a PO Box
    4,926
    voted past the reg. date
    10,315
    died before the election
    395
    voted in two states
    15,700
    moved out of state
    40,279
    changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i

    Your guy lost, get over it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    I do not believe these people were selected based on qualifications and experience.
    Its wokery identity politics, picking people because of their race and gender.
    Ah ok. Are the white people also only picked because they're white? Or is it just that white people are the only ones qualified?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    rosser44 wrote: »
    Your guy lost, get over it

    Where did you hear that? From the MSM, whose job it is to call it? The paper of record? If you think the election winner has been decided you are mistaken. Not your fault, it's the News Media bubble you live in.

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    Then they had to retract it because it was red pilling too many of their followers.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    OS_Head wrote: »
    GEORGIA:
    2,056
    felons illegally voted
    66,248
    under 18 voted
    2,423
    weren’t registered at all
    1,043
    used a PO Box
    4,926
    voted past the reg. date
    10,315
    died before the election
    395
    voted in two states
    15,700
    moved out of state
    40,279
    changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i
    To go over each and every bit of this bullsh*t takes time, and that is the point. By the time each one has been proved false the damage is done and the grifters have moved onto the next lie. But when looked at it usually comes down to people who just having the same name as someone else. Why do you immediately believe it and regurgitate it without questioning it? This would be really easy to prove in court but I guarantee you it won't be

    As for the female press team, you are leaving out some of their colleagues.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1333244893993578502

    Also, can you just tell us what date or milestone in the process, you will finally say the election is over? When the Electoral College votes, when Trump concedes, when Biden is sworn in? Just let us know when the whining will stop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,261 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Question - If either or both of the GOP candidates in Georgia were to lose the run-off elections , It's fair to say that they will almost certainly follow the Trump plan and appeal/challenge every possible thing.

    What happens to the Seats in the Senate during that timeframe and how long can they drag it out?

    For example , lets say the Democrats take both seats - When do those winners take their seats and when is the vote for the leader of the Senate and would that be the deadline for any challenges to be resolved?

    Precedent is Al Franken in 2008 / 2009. You sit out and the senate goes on without the seat until certification is confirmed and the winner can be sworn in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    To go over each and every bit of this bullsh*t takes time, and that is the point. By the time each one has been proved false the damage is done and the grifters have moved onto the next lie. But when looked at it usually comes down to people who just having the same name as someone else. Why do you immediately believe it and regurgitate it without questioning it? This would be really easy to prove in court but I guarantee you it won't be

    This is not an MSM story that is trying to sway public opinion to steal an election with false claims. This is hard evidence that will be put up in a court of law. That's a big difference here that you fail to grasp.
    As for the female press team, you are leaving out some of their colleagues.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1333244893993578502

    Also, can you just tell us what date or milestone in the process, you will finally say the election is over? When the Electoral College votes, when Trump concedes, when Biden is sworn in? Just let us know when the whining will stop.

    Yep, the 5 most senior roles for Trump and there they are, all women. But never mind that, I find it curious how the party of diversity is making such a big thing of having an all female office. What gives? It's like a badge of honour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    OS_Head wrote: »
    This is not an MSM story that is trying to sway public opinion to steal an election with false claims. This is hard evidence that will be put up in a court of law. That's a big difference here that you fail to grasp.
    When?


  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    OS_Head wrote: »
    This is not an MSM story that is trying to sway public opinion to steal an election with false claims. This is hard evidence that will be put up in a court of law. That's a big difference here that you fail to grasp.

    Your post isn't hard evidence though.

    Can you show us where the hard evidence is?

    Also when will it be put up?

    My understanding is that this was in the MSM and this was in a court of law and they kicked it out because of a lack of evidence.

    So now republican lawmakers are having these meaningless 'hearings' to placate Trump and allow him to continue to fundraise and you're watching it in OAN because other networks are reporting on other issues.

    Do you ever think you might be wrong about this election thing?


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    OS_Head wrote: »
    This is not an MSM story that is trying to sway public opinion to steal an election with false claims. This is hard evidence that will be put up in a court of law. That's a big difference here that you fail to grasp.



    Yep, the 5 most senior roles for Trump and there they are, all women. But never mind that, I find it curious how the party of diversity is making such a big thing of having an all female office. What gives? It's like a badge of honour.

    Yawn, all the court cases that were gonna turn it around for Trump but still not winning any of them...


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,486 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    OS_Head wrote: »
    This is not an MSM story that is trying to sway public opinion to steal an election with false claims. This is hard evidence that will be put up in a court of law. That's a big difference here that you fail to grasp.



    Yep, the 5 most senior roles for Trump and there they are, all women. But never mind that, I find it curious how the party of diversity is making such a big thing of having an all female office. What gives? It's like a badge of honour.

    So why haven't they bought it to court yet? What is this explosive evidence and why are they not showing it? Is this the same type of "hard evidence" that we heard was on the Hinter Biden laptop?

    Whatever happened to that? Doesn't even get a mention anymore but a month ago there was so much "hard evidence" on that laptop that would ensure Hunters prosecution and Joe Biden being annihilated in the election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    When?

    Probably immediately after the (Remember this??) great Health Plan that Trump has been teasing out (for years!!) as being published 'shortly' and in the 'next two weeks', but never comes!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Precedent is Al Franken in 2008 / 2009. You sit out and the senate goes on without the seat until certification is confirmed and the winner can be sworn in.

    Ah , ok - So Perdue/Loeffler are no longer Senators after January 4th when the new Senate is seated so no one can fill the seats until the election is certified.

    In that case , the GOP would remain in control , 50-48 with the 2 abstentions and McConnell would still be Senate Majority leader.

    In a scenario where the two GOP candidates lost and their objections are as absent of evidence as Trump , I wonder would any GOP Senator (Romney maybe) cross the aisle and vote for Schumer as Majority leader?

    It would only need one to flip over with the VP casting vote?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    OS_Head wrote: »
    You're quoting a BS WAPO story. Let me follow up with who these based pedes are? I'll answer, just in case someone doesn't get it. This is Trumps current Senior Whitehouse Press Staff. I kid you not.

    535100.jpg

    A Photo that conveniently leaves out Brian Morgenstern , current Deputy Press Secretary , who replaced Hogan Gidley who left to work on the Trump campaign.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Ah , ok - So Perdue/Loeffler are no longer Senators after January 4th when the new Senate is seated so no one can fill the seats until the election is certified.

    In that case , the GOP would remain in control , 50-48 with the 2 abstentions and McConnell would still be Senate Majority leader.

    In a scenario where the two GOP candidates lost and their objections are as absent of evidence as Trump , I wonder would any GOP Senator (Romney maybe) cross the aisle and vote for Schumer as Majority leader?

    It would only need one to flip over with the VP casting vote?

    Do they need to vote for the Majority Leader? Both McConnel and Schumer have already been voted by their respective parties' Senators as their leaders in the next Senate. Once one Party or another takes the Majority, that Party's leader automatically becomes Majority Leader. Am I right?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Do they need to vote for the Majority Leader? Both McConnel and Schumer have already been voted by their respective parties' Senators as their leaders in the next Senate. Once one Party or another takes the Majority, that Party's leader automatically becomes Majority Leader. Am I right?

    Actually , you might be right.. but I thought that there was at least a "pro-forma" vote..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    OS_Head wrote: »
    GEORGIA: 2,056 felons illegally voted 66,248 under 18 voted 2,423 weren’t registered at all 1,043 used a PO Box 4,926 voted past the reg. date 10,315 died before the election 395 voted in two states 15,700 moved out of state 40,279 changed county and didn’t re-register to vote. Nope, no wide spread fraud here that would change the course of the election. Now move along please...

    https://streamable.com/4gcp0i
    Your post is as devoid of supporting evidence as the (at the last count) 41 cases lost in court. All of this crap gets trotted out in fora where there are no penalties for lying and disappear like a fart in the wind when there's the looming possibility of lawyers facing penalties for perjury. It's no surprise that the only lawyers taking on these cases are as close to the bottom of the barrel as you can get without going right through the damn thing. It has gone past the level of farce and is now downright boring. Trump is grifting like mad and his enablers are there for just as long as they can get their rotten share of the spoils.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Your post is as devoid of supporting evidence as the (at the last count) 41 cases lost in court. All of this crap gets trotted out in fora where there are no penalties for lying and disappear like a fart in the wind when there's the looming possibility of lawyers facing penalties for perjury. It's no surprise that the only lawyers taking on these cases are as close to the bottom of the barrel as you can get without going right through the damn thing. It has gone past the level of farce and is now downright boring. Trump is grifting like mad and his enablers are there for just as long as they can get their rotten share of the spoils.

    From what I can see , this is a bunch of random accusations that were thrown out at a "hearing" in Georgia yesterday.

    It also looks like Brian Kemp is throwing Raffensperger under the bus as well. Pressing for a "Signature Audit" but saying that only the Secretary of State can do that.

    This despite Raffensperger already saying that he can't order one, it would have to be ordered by a judge and even then would be near impossible to do.

    They really are turning on each other over this...


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    From what I can see , this is a bunch of random accusations that were thrown out at a "hearing" in Georgia yesterday.

    It also looks like Brian Kemp is throwing Raffensperger under the bus as well. Pressing for a "Signature Audit" but saying that only the Secretary of State can do that.

    This despite Raffensperger already saying that he can't order one, it would have to be ordered by a judge and even then would be near impossible to do.

    They really are turning on each other over this...
    I don't have to read those links to know that such an 'audit' would destroy the secrecy of the ballot. There's a reason that mail-in ballots have the signature on the outer envelope. And that's the reason it can only be checked once, before the ballot is actually counted and in a different location.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I do not believe these people were selected based on qualifications and experience.
    Its wokery identity politics, picking people because of their race and gender.

    So you're incredulous that women, people of colour, etc might actually be qualified for highly skilled and demanding roles. Says a lot, just not about who you think it does.

    And I can't help but notice that you don't seem to have had any problem with Trump constantly filling positions with wildly unqualified and inexperienced people over the last few years. Then again those were largely white, so it correlates.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I don't have to read those links to know that such an 'audit' would destroy the secrecy of the ballot. There's a reason that mail-in ballots have the signature on the outer envelope. And that's the reason it can only be checked once, before the ballot is actually counted and in a different location.

    Exactly , the point is that the audit is impossible because of the steps taken to preserve the secrecy of the ballot.

    They check the signatures on the ballots on two separate occasions and then when the envelope is opened the ballot and envelope are separated and cannot be linked back together.

    Both are kept secure after that, but if they went back now and audited the signatures again and found ones that they were unhappy with, it is completely and utterly impossible to link that envelope back to a specific ballot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I don't have to read those links to know that such an 'audit' would destroy the secrecy of the ballot. There's a reason that mail-in ballots have the signature on the outer envelope. And that's the reason it can only be checked once, before the ballot is actually counted and in a different location.

    All involved know that it is practically impossible to do, even if were legal or desirable. Its simply part of the ongoing farcical attempts by Trump and his goons to keep the corpse of his Presidency seeming to be alive, primarily to keep cult $$$ flowing in. Every time another one of these absolutely BS 'hearings' is held, and/or Powell or Giuliani 'legal' challenge is filed, the RNC and Trump PAC goes Ca-chinggggg!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    OS_Head wrote: »
    If you think the election winner has been decided you are mistaken. Not your fault, it's the News Media bubble you live in.

    "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    I wonder what will happen with some of these QAnon types when Biden gets inaugurated, I'm expecting that they will argue that Trump is secretly a shadow president dictating to Biden while he works on exposing a Epstein collusion ring or something

    Or will they begin the sudden and painful but badly needed adjustment to reality


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

    quoting biblish to trimpishts is pointless, they only do sarcasm not parables, its not like its gospel.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,674 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    So you're incredulous that women, people of colour, etc might actually be qualified for highly skilled and demanding roles. Says a lot, just not about who you think it does.

    And I can't help but notice that you don't seem to have had any problem with Trump constantly filling positions with wildly unqualified and inexperienced people over the last few years. Then again those were largely white, so it correlates.

    When you and others on the left are not busy admonishing the rest of us to be "civil" in our discussions of political issues, you are busy letting loose insults, accusations and smears against those who dare to disagree with you.


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