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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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    #6572
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    serfboard wrote: »
    That's a very clever ad - splitting the GOP between Trumpists and everyone else. Given the "stab-in-the-back" mythology that Trumpists will be going on with now the message is - your messiah has been betrayed by your tribal elders, so now is your chance to punish those elders for their treachery.

    Get as many abstentions or spoilt votes with trump written on them as you can from Trump voters.


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    #6573
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,706 ✭✭✭✭josip


    listermint wrote: »
    Get as many abstentions or spoilt votes with trump written on them as you can from Trump voters.


    Are spoiled votes enumerated in the US?
    If they were, that would be a motivation for Mr. T.


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    #6574
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    josip wrote: »
    Are spoiled votes enumerated in the US?
    If they were, that would be a motivation for Mr. T.

    Two fingers at the GOP, and if they're quantifiable number, how many are loyal to trump and not the GOP


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    #6575
    dogbert27
    Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the 70 mill plus who voted for Trump the personality and who voted for him because they vote Republicans because there does seem to be break in the party there.


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    #6576
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dogbert27 wrote: »
    At what stage do the rats jump the sinking ship and try to save themselves?

    If the EC certify Biden will Trump give up on the law suits or will can he try to get the Supreme Court to overturn the EC?

    He said yesterday the world was laughing at the US for Biden winning a fraud election.

    He's completely out of touch with reality if he believes that's the reason the world is laughing at the US right now. :rolleyes:

    If the EC vote as how the results have been certified he wouldn't have a case, imo, but open to correction. Personally I think he knows that getting the SC to rule in his favor is not going to happen.

    But if he will try (most likely will), depends on how much of a personal threat he sees the various state investigations and loan repayments due to his banks that losing the presidency will expose him to, and how much he can financially squeeze out of his believers in the remaining time he's got before being turned out of the Whitehouse.

    Also apart from throwing his toys out of the pram, the plan seems to be to do as much damage as possible until he is turned out.
    Be that appointing fools to various positions in the Pentagon, to screwing over the GOP for their apparent failure to have him elected (he has apparently tweeted that there is no point voting republican) and if you wanted to go full on conspiracy theory, inciting a civil war.

    I don't think the latter would happen, while it's easy for fools to write online that they are ready and waiting for his orders to take up arms in his cause, they wouldn't last five minutes against the coast guard never mind anyone else, but would make great candidates for the Darwin awards.


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    #6577
    [Deleted User]
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    dogbert27 wrote: »
    It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the 70 mill plus who voted for Trump the personality and who voted for him because they vote Republicans because there does seem to be break in the party there.

    In Maine the military vote went mainly to Biden (>80% if memory serves me correctly).
    Traditionally especially in the officer class, the vote would be republican.
    I'm guessing calling people losers and blaming their families for giving you covid doesn't pay off, at least in Maine.


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    #6578
    dogbert27
    Registered Users Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    In Maine the military vote went mainly to Biden (>80% if memory serves me correctly).
    Traditionally especially in the officer class, the vote would be republican.
    I'm guessing calling people losers and blaming their families for giving you covid doesn't pay off, at least in Maine.

    My thinking is more say was there 50 million Trump voters and 20 million Republican voters or vice versa because if Trump could pull that number on his personality alone then there is potential for him to go independent or set up his own political party with the family and continue living off donations that he'll no doubt use to pay off his loans!


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    #6579
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,192 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Whatever number voted more for Trump or Republican, it shows that so many have weak character. Having to believe in a fraud and majorly flawed person.


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    #6580
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,000 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    If the EC vote as how the results have been certified he wouldn't have a case, imo, but open to correction. Personally I think he knows that getting the SC to rule in his favor is not going to happen.

    But if he will try (most likely will), depends on how much of a personal threat he sees the various state investigations and loan repayments due to his banks that losing the presidency will expose him to, and how much he can financially squeeze out of his believers in the remaining time he's got before being turned out of the Whitehouse.

    Also apart from throwing his toys out of the pram, the plan seems to be to do as much damage as possible until he is turned out.
    Be that appointing fools to various positions in the Pentagon, to screwing over the GOP for their apparent failure to have him elected (he has apparently tweeted that there is no point voting republican) and if you wanted to go full on conspiracy theory, inciting a civil war.

    I don't think the latter would happen, while it's easy for fools to write online that they are ready and waiting for his orders to take up arms in his cause, they wouldn't last five minutes against the coast guard never mind anyone else, but would make great candidates for the Darwin awards.

    Once the EC is done, he will jack all the nonsense in as he can't bleed his supporters for any more money.

    Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #6581
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Brian? wrote: »
    Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.

    And thus screwing whoever the 2024 Gop candidate is for donations as the base will be tapped completely.


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    #6582
    Quin_Dub
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    Brian? wrote: »
    Once the EC is done, he will jack all the nonsense in as he can't bleed his supporters for any more money.

    Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.

    And just like he's done over the last 4 years , he'll use the "Campaign" funds to pay his legal bills as he fights off all the court cases that are stacked up waiting for him..


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    #6583
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    A progressive organisation is targeting Trump voters in Georgia:

    https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/status/1333597793739534338



    :D:D:D


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    #6584
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Brian? wrote: »
    Once the EC is done, he will jack all the nonsense in as he can't bleed his supporters for any more money.

    Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.

    Isn't all this presuming Letitia James won't succeed in indicting him for fraud in SDNY?


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    #6585
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Sidney Powell retweeted this..

    A call for the use of the Insurrection Act followed by Military tribunals.

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    Variously his "team have been calling for people to be shot, beheaded or summarily jailed and now they are calling for a Military take over and a suspension of Democratic process.

    And yet with a few exceptions we have absolute silence from the elected GOP officials.

    Sidney Powell needs to wake up.....retweeting this craziness with the date of the runoff printed as Jan. 6th, one day late! :D


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    #6586
    kingtiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/status/1333597793739534338

    :pac:

    oh wouldn't you just love to see the puss on that prick Mitch McConnell if the Republicans lose the senate


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    #6587
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Well, they are laughing at the US right now , but the laughter is directed at him and the GOP for enabling his utter delusion.

    Laughing/laughter are not the words I'd use.. Shock, horror, disgust, pity, outrage would all be closer to how I'm looking at the US right now.


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    #6588
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    The bould Sidney apparently submitted an altered document in court filings. In the filing she maintained that an order was undated, but in actual fact she (or someone working for her) had cropped that bit from the document. This could be serious for her.


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    #6589
    blackwave
    Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭blackwave


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The bould Sidney apparently submitted an altered document in court filings. In the filing she maintained that an order was undated, but in actual fact she'd (or someone working for her) had cropped that bit from the document. This could be serious for her.

    Once again proof that only the the best people were hired by trump's administration....


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    #6590
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The bould Sidney apparently submitted an altered document in court filings. In the filing she maintained that an order was undated, but in actual fact she (or someone working for her) had cropped that bit from the document. This could be serious for her.

    that sounds to me like.... fraud.


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    #6591
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,192 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Gabriel Stirling making a plea with Trump not to incite violence.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1333876986377359362


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    #6592
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I can't even find words to describe the next step in the bumbling travels of Sidney. In a filing in Milwaukee Wisconsin, she's asked for emergency access to the security camera footage from the TCF Centre in... Detroit Michigan.


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    #6593
    StringerBell
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    Water John wrote: »
    Gabriel Stirling making a plea with Trump not to incite violence.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1333876986377359362

    I have absolutely zero respect, or time for those who will come out now now against trump after standing by and condoning all that has gone on this part 4 years when the ship has already sunk.

    Spineless the lot of them.

    Can you actually believe the gall of GOP Senators making noises about not confirming a Biden appointment because of some tweets they didn't like?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #6594
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,192 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I have absolutely zero respect, or time for those who will come out now now against trump after standing by and condoning all that has gone on this part 4 years when the ship has already sunk.

    Spineless the lot of them.

    Can you actually believe the gall of GOP Senators making noises about not confirming a Biden appointment because of some tweets they didn't like?

    They're very sensitive souls.


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    #6595
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,673 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I can't even find words to describe the next step in the bumbling travels of Sidney. In a filing in Milwaukee Wisconsin, she's asked for emergency access to the security camera footage from the TCF Centre in... Detroit Michigan.

    So why doesn’t she file this in oh I don’t know Michigan ?


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    #6596
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So why doesn’t she file this in oh I don’t know Michigan ?

    Because she's sueing Wisconsin...


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    #6597
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,673 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Because she's sueing Wisconsin...

    Well she doesn’t need CCTV from Michigan then does she ?


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    #6598
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Jizique


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I have absolutely zero respect, or time for those who will come out now now against trump after standing by and condoning all that has gone on this part 4 years when the ship has already sunk.

    Spineless the lot of them.

    Can you actually believe the gall of GOP Senators making noises about not confirming a Biden appointment because of some tweets they didn't like?

    Tonight’s news just breaking about “bribery for pardons” is shocking, if not surprising; the mad thing is that there are so many possible candidates, the document is heavily redacted to hide the identity


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    #6599
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,173 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The bould Sidney apparently submitted an altered document in court filings. In the filing she maintained that an order was undated, but in actual fact she (or someone working for her) had cropped that bit from the document. This could be serious for her.

    In her Michigan court documents she alleges massive evidence of fraud in Edison county

    The slight problem with that it that there is no "Edison County" in Michigan.

    In fact , there is no Edison County in the entire United States , so it can't even be blamed on their previous Michigan/Minnesota confusion.

    Beyond ridiculous at this stage.


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    #6600
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well she doesn’t need CCTV from Michigan then does she ?

    Did you just try to apply actual real-world logic to the bat****-crazy 'lawering' that Sidney Powell is engaged in?


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    #6601
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    In her Michigan court documents she alleges massive evidence of fraud in Edison county

    The slight problem with that it that there is no "Edison County" in Michigan.

    In fact , there is no Edison County in the entire United States , so it can't even be blamed on their previous Michigan/Minnesota confusion.

    Beyond ridiculous at this stage.

    Sidney read a book once. It has informed her entire career obviously:

    https://www.amazon.com/Ditches-Edison-County-Richard-Roberts/dp/0451182669


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