Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

HerrKuehn · 23-11-2020 11:46AM

Gervais08 wrote: »

Why the sarcasm ? I know the reason given - I’m saying it’s bull****.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was spelling out the reason clearly. Your statement "what antiviral benefit does a 9 Euro meal have ?" seemed to indicate you were a bit confused about it.

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 11:49AM

HerrKuehn wrote: »

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was spelling out the reason clearly. Your statement "what antiviral benefit does a 9 Euro meal have ?" seemed to indicate you were a bit confused about it.

No I suspect anti-pub campaigners like yourself would like normal people to be confused but no, we’re grand.

We see what nonsense the health puritans are trying to sell.

HerrKuehn · 23-11-2020 11:54AM

Gervais08 wrote: »

No I suspect anti-pub campaigners like yourself would like normal people to be confused but no, we’re grand.

We see what nonsense the health puritans are trying to sell.

I am not an anti pub campaigner, not sure where you get that idea from. It seems to me that having the requirement to serve food strikes the right balance, allowing socialising with a few pints while keeping a lid on the worst behavior. I am hoping the pubs are allowed open up in this way and I will pop out for a few in December if they do.

seannash · 23-11-2020 11:54AM

Gervais08 wrote: »

No I suspect anti-pub campaigners like yourself would like normal people to be confused but no, we’re grand.

We see what nonsense the health puritans are trying to sell.

Lad what are you on about, you asked a question which seemed to look for clarification, got an answer and then said people like the person who offered the explanation want people to be confused...despite him offering an answer to the question and making it clear one of the reasons for the 9 euro meal.

You're tying yourself up in knots with this logic.

SB71 · 23-11-2020 12:31PM

so will we be back to the covid meal thing again when you want to have pints, my jaysus this is like a comedy sketch gone wrong at this stage :rolleyes:

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 12:33PM

seannash wrote: »

Because the pubs have been shut....
Also schools allow parents to go to work so its a lot more beneficial to have them open.
Fairly basic stuff lads

I don't think it matters how may times this is said, those who don't want to remember it will always pretend they forgot it.
Likewise they forget that the entire notion of some businesses being essential, others being very important and others being completely optional and just nice to have.

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 12:37PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don't think it matters how may times this is said, those who don't want to remember it will always pretend they forgot it.
Likewise they forget that the entire notion of some businesses being essential, others being very important and others being completely optional and just nice to have.

Regular human contact for those of us who aren’t one of the Waltons is more than “nice to have” - it’s more essential than a five year old doing painting they could do at home.

Schools were reopened as mass crèches and it’s foolish to think otherwise.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 12:37PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

Do you honestly think everyone has a large family group ? Nice for you there.

Why does anyone need a large gamily group? Not sure what point you're making.

I don't think i have a large family group. I have a Mother and sister, Mother and father in law and Brother in law and his wife. They'll be the only family I'll see over the whole of Christmas (in different groups and sensibly distanced). It's loads to be getting on with.

What was your point?

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 12:39PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

Regular human contact for those of us who aren’t one of the Waltons is more than “nice to have” - it’s more essential than a five year old doing painting they could do at home.

Schools were reopened as mass crèches and it’s foolish to think otherwise.

Yeah one of the main functions of schools at the moment, and probably the thing that makes them essential, is the fact that they free parents to go to work. You understand the importance of that, right?

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 12:42PM

SB71 wrote: »

some amount of anti pub shills on here who have the audacity to even try and make out they are drinkers themselves, yeah right lads we believe you.

You think only non-drinkers are opposed to pubs opening? I drink. I miss the pub, I loved going to the pub. But I don't support opening the pubs or nightclubs at the moment.

weldoninhio · 23-11-2020 12:49PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You think only non-drinkers are opposed to pubs opening? I drink. I miss the pub, I loved going to the pub. But I don't support opening the pubs or nightclubs at the moment.

No one has mentioned nightclubs opening since the start of Covid. Yet bs artists like yourself drop them in every now and again as if people are pushing for them. No one expects a nightclub to open.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 01:01PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

No one has mentioned nightclubs opening since the start of Covid. Yet bs artists like yourself drop them in every now and again as if people are pushing for them. No one expects a nightclub to open.

I didn't pretend to quote anyone. I said I don't think pubs and nightclubs should open. I also don't think festivals or sports events or concerts with crowds should go ahead at the moment. Doesn't mean I'm anti-pub, anti-festival, anti-sports event or anti-concert - that was the context of the post i responded to.

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 01:03PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Why does anyone need a large gamily group? Not sure what point you're making.

I don't think i have a large family group. I have a Mother and sister, Mother and father in law and Brother in law and his wife. They'll be the only family I'll see over the whole of Christmas (in different groups and sensibly distanced). It's loads to be getting on with.

What was your point?

I thought it was obvious - there are people alone, with no family or close friend support.

I am one and I live in a relatively small town, go to the pub for a couple of hours and it’s sometimes the only time you talk face to face to another person.

I think it is cruel to just dismiss this.

UDAWINNER · 23-11-2020 01:08PM

I see the 9 euro rule may be ditched, what will they replace it with? a packet of crisps:)

rob316 · 23-11-2020 01:14PM

Its back to June 29th so, I could live with that. NPHET must be seething, delighted :pac:

weldoninhio · 23-11-2020 01:19PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I didn't pretend to quote anyone. I said I don't think pubs and nightclubs should open. I also don't think festivals or sports events or concerts with crowds should go ahead at the moment. Doesn't mean I'm anti-pub, anti-festival, anti-sports event or anti-concert - that was the context of the post i responded to.

Course if doesn’t :rolleyes: You’re as transparent as a window.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 02:06PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

I thought it was obvious - there are people alone, with no family or close friend support.

I am one and I live in a relatively small town, go to the pub for a couple of hours and it’s sometimes the only time you talk face to face to another person.

I think it is cruel to just dismiss this.

I don't dismiss it or you. I credit you with the ability to get your social interaction in some other way. Maybe you use Boards for that purpose, maybe you do lots of innovative things to get social interaction. Maybe you sit around waiting for the pubs to reopen. I'm not telling you what to do but I can tell you that some actions will be more beneficial to you than others.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 02:07PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Course if doesn’t :rolleyes: You’re as transparent as a window.

Good, glad we cleared that up. Do you support opening night clubs, sports events, concerts and festivals?

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 02:17PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don't dismiss it or you. I credit you with the ability to get your social interaction in some other way. Maybe you use Boards for that purpose, maybe you do lots of innovative things to get social interaction. Maybe you sit around waiting for the pubs to reopen. I'm not telling you what to do but I can tell you that some actions will be more beneficial to you than others.

Boards is not face to face human contact.

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 02:18PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Good, glad we cleared that up. Do you support opening night clubs, sports events, concerts and festivals?

You didn’t ask me but - clubs, festivals. No

Concerts and sports - socially distant trials should be ongoing.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-11-2020 02:20PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

Boards is not face to face human contact.

Ok. I hope you get your needs met without putting yourself or others at risk. Pubs might reopen and close down again over the next while so I wouldn't rely on them for "face to face human contact" over the next while. Face to face isn't the only kind of contact worth having, of course. But that's not really the point.

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 02:28PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ok. I hope you get your needs met without putting yourself or others at risk. Pubs might reopen and close down again over the next while so I wouldn't rely on them for "face to face human contact" over the next while. Face to face isn't the only kind of contact worth having, of course. But that's not really the point.

It is when you don't have it.

opinionated3 · 23-11-2020 02:34PM

As much and all as I want to see the pub's open both for the social aspect and for those employed/ depending on them for their income, the vibes today aren't looking good. Looks like restaurants might be allowed open but not wet pub's. Gonna be the quietest Christmas I'll ever experience I reckon ☹️

seannash · 23-11-2020 02:43PM

It may surprise some but I would love them open at Christmas. Christmas eve in a pub is a massive tradition for me and all my mates and whilst we don't see each other as much during the year anymore its always a fantastic catch-up.
New years day is unreal as well, Would love to be able to do that this year as well.
But I will accept they might not open and not revel in decisions that dont follow scientific recommendations. If they do open I'll weigh up whether or not the risk is worth it to me personally based on people I will be in contact with over the holidays (Elderly relatives, at risk friends)

I've worked in pubs since I was 13 and only stopped working at the weekends in a pub 4 months before lock-down.
People can be supportive of pubs yet acknowledge the reality of the situation we are in and what steps need to take place to combat it.

theballz · 23-11-2020 02:46PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

As much and all as I want to see the pub's open both for the social aspect and for those employed/ depending on them for their income, the vibes today aren't looking good. Looks like restaurants might be allowed open but not wet pub's. Gonna be the quietest Christmas I'll ever experience I reckon ☹️

where are you reading this?

Gervais08 · 23-11-2020 02:47PM

seannash wrote: »

It may surprise some but I would love them open at Christmas. Christmas eve in a pub is a massive tradition for me and all my mates and whilst we don't see each other as much during the year anymore its always a fantastic catch-up.
New years day is unreal as well, Would love to be able to do that this year as well.
But I will accept they might not open and not revel in decisions that dont follow scientific recommendations. If they do open I'll weigh up whether or not the risk is worth it to me personally based on people I will be in contact with over the holidays (Elderly relatives, at risk friends)

I've worked in pubs since I was 13 and only stopped working at the weekends in a pub 4 months before lock-down.
People can be supportive of pubs yet acknowledge the reality of the situation we are in and what steps need to take place to combat it.

That’s a great point - and I never left the house for ten days before visits to my dad in his home because I wanted to manage and minimize risk.

However, not everyone thought the same and the home had a massive outbreak that infected 80% plus and killed 4 including my dad.

Open pubs with every single safety measure they have in place and choose to go in - but if you choose not to, great but people should have choice.

hynesie08 · 23-11-2020 02:50PM

theballz wrote: »

where are you reading this?

The indo have an article up behind a pay wall, hoping some kind soul c+p's it here....

Chalk McHugh · 23-11-2020 02:55PM

Dublin is going to be buzzing next Tuesday i would imagine. Looks like indoor drinking is going to be allowed. Wet pubs maybe not but to be honest that 9e meal rule and 95 mins farce was not enforced in three pubs i frequented in the city before lockdown. It was in about six others i was in but wasn't a big deal. I'm already making plans for Tuesday. I will toast the Nphet Misery Merchants for my first drink. It's going to be a good one.

seannash · 23-11-2020 02:56PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

That’s a great point - and I never left the house for ten days before visits to my dad in his home because I wanted to manage and minimize risk.

However, not everyone thought the same and the home had a massive outbreak that infected 80% plus and killed 4 including my dad.

Open pubs with every single safety measure they have in place and choose to go in - but if you choose not to, great but people should have choice.

I think you may be misrepresenting my position slightly.
My belief is that they should remain closed but if the decision is made to open I may entertain the idea of going to one but I do not believe that people are as responsible as you or I which has been demonstrated when they were open.
Quoting my friend who manages a very popular bar in my hometown that opened up when they got the go ahead "The older generation are grand but the young ones are an absolute disgrace when it comes to adhering to the rules"
Just like you are looking for your personal circumstances to be considered in the decision of opening you have to acknowledge other peoples attitudes to restrictions must be considered and with the amount of people who I see reveling in the fact they wont wear a mask in a shop there is a sizeable amount of people who simply will not follow the rules.

SB71 · 23-11-2020 02:58PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Dublin is going to be buzzing next Tuesday i would imagine. Looks like indoor drinking is going to be allowed. Wet pubs maybe not but to be honest that 9e meal rule and 95 mins farce was not enforced in three pubs i frequented in the city before lockdown. It was in about six others i was in but wasn't a big deal. I'm already making plans for Tuesday. I will toast the Nphet Misery Merchants for my first drink. It's going to be a good one.

surely they cant have this 105 minutes rubbish again, absolute and utter lunacy of the highest order, the garda instead of out catching criminals doing patrols of the pubs to check people are eating the covid meal and to check they havent gone over the 105 minutes because the virus will strike if you do, you honestly couldnt write better script if you tried.:rolleyes:

Open the fcukin pubs as normal

Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

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