Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

Mean Laqueefa

Jim Leahy wrote: »

Do you disagree with banning drugs. pretty closed minded view

Trailer park boys, jog on , troll level game is getting weak

hynesie08

Jim Leahy wrote: »

Do you disagree with banning drugs. pretty closed minded view

Legalisation, with quality control and government taxation is coming.........

Jim Leahy

The only people with an issue with banning pubs are the politicians owning pubs.
Keep them closed, if anyone wants a drink go to tesco

Jimson

Having a lovely few pints in the local here with friends.

Missed it. Pints are only lovely.

Jim Leahy

Jimson has the right idea. ANd guess what? No covid case.
keep the pubs closed

Jim Leahy

Jim Leahy wrote: »

The only people with an issue with banning pubs are the politicians owning pubs.
Keep them closed, if anyone wants a drink go to tesco

Welcome to boards. Don't let the revolving door clatter you on the arse.

Jim Leahy

The owner of the website does not approve my message

PTH2009

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Jim Leahy

Keep the pubs closed, everyone can just go the off tesco.
No need for them to be open

redarmy

Jim Leahy wrote: »

Keep the pubs closed, everyone can just go the off tesco.
No need for them to be open

:pac:

El_Duderino 09

46 Long wrote: »

What's the story with so many people not having a grasp on basic human behaviour?

Humans are inherently social creatures and crave interaction with others. Preventing house visits and closing down shops, restaurants, bars, cafes, sports and most hobbies leaves those who just can't take the isolation any longer to do impulsive things like buying a bag of cans and drinking them outside with others.

There were 399,815 people living on their own in Ireland at the time of the last census. How do you think they're coping with almost 10 months of quasi-solitary confinement?

As I said in the post before, if I had a choice between pubs or small groups of family or friends in houses, I’d choose family and friends in houses. Easy decision.

Do you honestly think pubs are the best way for people to socialise at the moment?

opinionated3

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

As I said in the post before, if I had a choice between pubs or small groups of family or friends in houses, I’d choose family and friends in houses. Easy decision.

Do you honestly think pubs are the best way for people to socialise at the moment?

As opposed to you gathering with numerous persons in a single house, probably no social distancing and no masks when you get up and move around? And drinking copious beers/glasses of wine? What's the difference??

drunkmonkey

Jim Leahy wrote: »

The owner of the website does not approve my message

He definitely doesn't, more than likely he's heading in for Sunday beers in Charlie's Bar & Grill.
No way is he in Ireland putting up with this bull crap.

El_Duderino 09

opinionated3 wrote: »

As opposed to you gathering with numerous persons in a single house, probably no social distancing and no masks when you get up and move around? And drinking copious beers/glasses of wine? What's the difference??

Well, I’ll point out a few things there. You’re describing a house party but that not how most people meet in houses. People usually meet in houses without drinking. Call around for a of tea and a chat, or watch a match with one of the lads, have dinner together that kind of thing.

The fact that you jumped straight to describing a house party as the default for meeting family or friends in a House, speaks volumes because it’s the only way to make it comparable to a pub environment. Pubs have the drawbacks you mentioned as a matter of course. They’re inherent in the pub environment.

Under reduced restrictions I’d happily call around to one of the lads for the F1 or a rugby match or have someone around for dinner and a chat. Call to see my mother and a cuppa. If I had to choose I’d choose those kind of interactions over strangers in the pub. Easy choice.

But it’s very indicative that you chose to describe meeting in houses the way you did. Pretending meeting your mam for a chat looks like a house party. There’s so much pretending needed in the argument that the pubs are a good idea right now.

opinionated3

Again I'll ask. What the difference in safety between you visiting your friend's to watch the rugby, having a beer and a chat while doing so, versus me meeting two of me friends in a pub to watch the same match, having to sit at socially distanced tables, using a mask when I get up to use the toilet, ordering my beer via table service from a publican who's also wearing his/her mask? And said publican also has to option to remove punters who aren't behaving appropriately ( which I've actually witnessed at my local).

Cork2021

Going by this tweet, obviously not 100% confident it’s accurate. But to say less then 1% (0.87%) of cases have come from the hospitality sector.. you’d wonder why they are shut same goes goes for retail at 0.31%

https://twitter.com/oliveblogs/status/1330212538018115590?s=21

El_Duderino 09

opinionated3 wrote: »

Again I'll ask. What the difference in safety between you visiting your friend's to watch the rugby, having a beer and a chat while doing so, versus me meeting two of me friends in a pub to watch the same match, having to sit at socially distanced tables, using a mask when I get up to use the toilet, ordering my beer via table service from a publican who's also wearing his/her mask? And said publican also has to option to remove punters who aren't behaving appropriately ( which I've actually witnessed at my local).

Great question, just a clarification: will you and your mate be the only ones in the pub? And will you be sitting nicely distanced on different sofas?

Because if you’re the only ones in the pub and you’re sitting nicely distanced on different sofas, then there would be very little difference.

undertaker fan 88

Jim Leahy wrote: »

Keep the pubs closed, everyone can just go the off tesco.
No need for them to be open

What about all of us that work in pubs..go on away and troll some where else

Eric Cartman

Cork2021 wrote: »

Going by this tweet, obviously not 100% confident it’s accurate. But to say less then 1% (0.87%) of cases have come from the hospitality sector.. you’d wonder why they are shut same goes goes for retail at 0.31%

https://twitter.com/oliveblogs/status/1330212538018115590?s=21

10x more cases from schools than pubs

seannash

Eric Cartman wrote: »

10x more cases from schools than pubs

Because the pubs have been shut....
Also schools allow parents to go to work so its a lot more beneficial to have them open.
Fairly basic stuff lads

seannash

opinionated3 wrote: »

Again I'll ask. What the difference in safety between you visiting your friend's to watch the rugby, having a beer and a chat while doing so, versus me meeting two of me friends in a pub to watch the same match, having to sit at socially distanced tables, using a mask when I get up to use the toilet, ordering my beer via table service from a publican who's also wearing his/her mask? And said publican also has to option to remove punters who aren't behaving appropriately ( which I've actually witnessed at my local).

Are you asking this again thinking its some sort of "Gotcha" because its been answered numerous times.
And if you haven't read the replies and figured it out I look forward to your post of "Again I must ask" in a few pages.

opinionated3

seannash wrote: »

Are you asking this again thinking its some sort of "Gotcha" because its been answered numerous times.
And if you haven't read the replies and figured it out I look forward to your post of "Again I must ask" in a few pages.

Thanks for the reply.......... Which doesn't answer my question in any shape or form. .......

seannash

opinionated3 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply.......... Which doesn't answer my question in any shape or form. .......

I'm guessing you think that my unwillingness to repeat and explain again what others have said about this question is another sign we cant offer a reason so for the sake of ensuring no one misconstrues my unwillingness to explain on a Monday morning theres a few reasons below (Although other posters have explained the reasons a lot better than me)
Well for starters despite your claim of being socially distanced from your friends in a pub you wouldn't be. You would be sat in close proximity.
Alcohol lowers inhibitions and may cause people to not follow guidelines about interactions.
It would mean you would possibly interact with other people in the pub and infection and spread could happen from there.


In your scenario, if you called to a mates house (Under current guidelines I'm not sure that's advised) the spread would be confined to you and your mates, not the staff or other patrons of a pub.
These measures are meant to work hand in hand with each other. They assume that you follow current guidelines about interactions outside of a pub environment too in order to limit spread if you were in fact infected.


That's not all the reasons but I fear this will fall on deaf ears as the previous explanations have.

opinionated3

My interactions with the publican and his patrons is basically non existent while I'm sitting at my table. When I get up to go to toilet my mask goes on. And my inhibitions are surely the same if I call to my friends gaff and consume a load of liquor there...... Just minus the mask and other safety precautions that the publican had been forced to fork out for.

seannash

opinionated3 wrote: »

My interactions with the publican and his patrons is basically non existent while I'm sitting at my table. When I get up to go to toilet my mask goes on. And my inhibitions are surely the same if I call to my friends gaff and consume a load of liquor there...... Just minus the mask and other safety precautions that the publican had been forced to fork out for.

And you are an excellent patron for doing so. But is everyone like you.......I'm fairly sure you've seen the scenes in Pubs around the country when they were open.
Your second point I answered

drunkmonkey

Not good news going by the Indo, looks like pubs that just serve pints can't open.

bennyineire

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Not good news going by the Indo, looks like pubs that just serve pints can't open.

Irish times is reporting that Wet pubs will be allowed to open

Gervais08

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

As I said in the post before, if I had a choice between pubs or small groups of family or friends in houses, I’d choose family and friends in houses. Easy decision.

Do you honestly think pubs are the best way for people to socialise at the moment?

Do you honestly think everyone has a large family group ? Nice for you there.

stephenjmcd

bennyineire wrote: »

Irish times is reporting that Wet pubs will be allowed to open

I've just read the Irish times and I quote,
"A major issue to be resolved over the coming days will be situation regarding the hospitality industry. While decisions have not yet been made, it is thought unlikely that so-called wet pubs – which do not serve food – will be allowed to open. "

SB71

some amount of anti pub shills on here who have the audacity to even try and make out they are drinkers themselves, yeah right lads we believe you.