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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #6722
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Decision time approaching......keep cases high as possible....mis-report case positivity rate

    Off to the conspiracy forum now, think you're in the wrong place


  • #6723
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    But will this be the stick we’re beaten with come Thursday. We know positivity is dropping but back log cases makes it look worse off then it actually is

    ah stop will you. they are not playing with the numbers.


  • #6724
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    froog wrote: »
    ah stop will you. they are not playing with the numbers.

    How about you look at swab data and come back to me? Dope


  • #6725
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    How about you look at swab data and come back to me? Dope

    It's called validating data, some swabs have to be re-checked to ensure they aren't duplicates among other things. They don't work the numbers for fun :rolleyes:


  • #6726
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    The paranoia from some on here about the numbers is hilarious. Nobody is out to get you people.


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  • #6727
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    It's called validating data, some swabs have to be re-checked to ensure they aren't duplicates among other things. They don't work the numbers for fun :rolleyes:

    If multiple tests were being performed on certain swabs then the number of positive swabs would be greater than cases. I don’t think thats the reason tbh.


  • #6728
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Under 200 today I reckon!

    Good bit out tbh.


  • #6729
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If multiple tests were being performed on certain swabs then the number of positive swabs would be greater than cases. I don’t think thats the reason tbh.

    Not sure exactly, just a suggestion but the whole idea that they are working the numbers to suit their "agenda" is ridiculous.


  • #6730
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    No no, it looks like the numbers are being falsified, anyone that does not think that is a dope apparently....I think those type of posts are more depressing than the actual numbers.


  • #6731
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If multiple tests were being performed on certain swabs then the number of positive swabs would be greater than cases. I don’t think thats the reason tbh.

    But it is as a result of a validation process.


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  • #6732
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    The paranoia from some on here about the numbers is hilarious. Nobody is out to get you people.

    Do you notice very few of those posters ever comment about differences between swabs and cases when cases are lower?


  • #6733
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Not sure exactly, just a suggestion but the whole idea that they are working the numbers to suit their "agenda" is ridiculous.

    I don’t think it is. They do not want to move from level 5. The numerous articles today and yesterday suggest government are fed up with how NPHET are operating in terms of the media


  • #6734
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Not sure exactly, just a suggestion but the whole idea that they are working the numbers to suit their "agenda" is ridiculous.

    It's real crackpot stuff. Is there a conspiracy theory thread for that train of thought?


  • #6735
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    And moreover, the 14-day incidence is continually falling, which hardly fits the narrative.


  • #6736
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Not sure exactly, just a suggestion but the whole idea that they are working the numbers to suit their "agenda" is ridiculous.

    There’s very little posters actually doing that.


  • #6737
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    The paranoia from some on here about the numbers is hilarious. Nobody is out to get you people.

    It's the same pattern every day.

    1) Swab numbers
    2) Positive / negative reactions ("19-day positivity rate looks good now" / "Must be an outbreak in hospitals")
    3) Daily case numbers
    4) Positive / negative reactions ("Great to see County X numbers go down" / "County X looks bad")
    5) Speculation on whether there's a conspiracy, because 1 and 3 do not match
    6) Blame the media for not asking the right questions


  • #6738
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    But it is as a result of a validation process.

    To be honest I'd have expected about 50-60 more than swabs today, swabs were higher than cases yesterday.

    Would be interesting to know when the other 40-50 swabs are from by epi date.

    Anyway either way today we had 2.36% positivity for the day, 3.3% for the last 7 days. Heading in the right direction after the brief blip.


  • #6739
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    I don’t think it is. They do not want to move from level 5. The numerous articles today and yesterday suggest government are fed up with how NPHET are operating in terms of the media

    They give press briefings and hold meetings and advise the government. As of yet there is literally no proof they are giving stuff to the media, and reports generally say "Government Sources"

    They will want to stay in level 5 if they believe numbers aren't low enough or if the community level is too high/rising, they aren't doing it for the craic ffs. Are they very cautious? Yes.


  • #6740
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    There’s very little posters actually doing that.

    Didn't say there wasn't but I was replying to the one that was..?


  • #6741
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    My opinion is that case reporting is quite delayed and it gives a false impression.

    We have case numbers today from people who probably got tested 3-5 days ago and contracted the infection 7-10 days ago before that.

    Yet these numbers posted today are used to justify ridicule of people's behavior in the last few days or last week...

    We have health officials discussing trend figures that over a week old relating to infections contract 1-2 weeks prior to that....and then referencing actions on the preceding day or two.....

    This is not an conspiracy.....just a believe that health officials and NEPHET are beeing extremely cautious....and to the detriment of lots of aspects of life.


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  • #6742
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    They give press briefings and hold meetings and advise the government. As of yet there is literally no proof they are giving stuff to the media, and reports generally say "Government Sources"

    They will want to stay in level 5 if they believe numbers aren't low enough, they aren't doing it for the craic ffs

    There is proof. Mary Favier on morning irelans during the week the constant tweets from Holahan saying he’s concerned or very concerned.
    Figures are dipping in the community and it’s care homes and hospitals causing these numbers. There’s tweets today about how there’s actually only 64 admissions from COVID in hospitals now the rest were hospital acquired infections.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/health-experts-favour-tighter-covid-restrictions-the-politicians-less-1.4415096?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR1tXk1AZ-GFP3xcyG78VnSX9CQOUh1AVzqlMSMqAhpMzWbXMhTXs_hDkDY


  • #6743
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    It takes so long to come down from high case numbers. Worth remembering that when cases rise; early restrictions seem to have have huge benefits in reducing cases and disease in the weeks to follow.


  • #6744
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    There is proof. Mary Favier on morning irelans during the week the constant tweets from Holahan saying he’s concerned or very concerned.
    Figures are dipping in the community and it’s care homes and hospitals causing these numbers. There’s tweets today about how there’s actually only 64 admissions from COVID in hospitals now the rest were hospital acquired infections.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/health-experts-favour-tighter-covid-restrictions-the-politicians-less-1.4415096?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR1tXk1AZ-GFP3xcyG78VnSX9CQOUh1AVzqlMSMqAhpMzWbXMhTXs_hDkDY

    He is the CMO of the country and is saying he is concerned that the numbers aren't going down quickly, he isn't saying that to the Media or having interviews with the media about it, its been known for a while there are tensions between the two groups. If you think thats enough reason for NPHET to fix the numbers... we have gone from 1200 cases a day down to nearly 300. I don't think people realise how massive of a drop that is when you look at the rest of Europe.


  • #6745
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    There is currently hundreds of people on Grafton street


  • #6746
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    He is the CMO of the country and is saying he is concerned that the numbers aren't going down quickly, he isn't saying that to the Media or having interviews with the media about it, its been known for a while there are tensions between the two groups.

    The late late show is an example, read the article


  • #6747
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Gael23 wrote: »
    There is currently hundreds of people on Grafton street

    Also Oconnell street but its freezing cold and fairly breezy...

    I cannot see the risk of spread being huge.....obviously not desirable.


  • #6748
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Good to see among the countries that suppressed this virus again


    https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1330210647485898752


  • #6749
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Also Oconnell street but its freezing cold and fairly breezy...

    I cannot see the risk of spread being huge.....obviously not desirable.

    No there’s not much risk but it shows people are not staying at home


  • #6750
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I figured it wouldn't be as simple as adding and distracting, however we ca all agree someone should just ask the question that Wolf359f proposed:

    Of the ~300 currently in hospital, how many acquired covid in hospital?

    (in addition to that) I'd like to know why hospital numbers are still quite high - cases have dropped to a quarter or a third from the latest peak, but hospital numbers are still high. Is it just a lag, a result of more vulnerable people being hospitalised, or is it just explained by the number of hospital-acquired cases?


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  • #6751
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gael23 wrote: »
    There is currently hundreds of people on Grafton street

    Doing what walking around?


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