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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    I figured it wouldn't be as simple as adding and distracting, however we ca all agree someone should just ask the question that Wolf359f proposed:

    Of the ~300 currently in hospital, how many acquired covid in hospital?
    Yes. Absolutely.

    And every single hospital acquired infection should be thoroughly investigated with a root cause analysis of the most likely source or point of transmission to try to reduce these occurrences as much as humanly possibly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    246 positive swabs from 10,408 tests. 2.36% positivity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    246 positive swabs from 10,408 tests. 2.36% positivity
    Great stuff.


    I reckon we'll see closer to 300 today as I believe they've held back some from yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    If you maintained social distancing from the rest of your contacts then they won't get the virus from you if you have got it from that contact.
    And what if I’m someone who cannot keep 2 m from my contacts?

    Contacts could be in the same house.

    There are lots of people who cannot do keep 2m distance because they are providing care to a family member. Think of all the people who need to help someone to the toilet or in and out of bed. Think of all the people who have close contacts because of their work.

    Even if people can keep 2m from everybody single person they encounter, that reduces the risk but it doesn’t eliminate it completely and if I knew I was exposed that I might make even more cautious choices in that period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    majcos wrote: »
    Yes. Absolutely.

    And every single hospital acquired infection should be thoroughly investigated with a root cause analysis of the most likely source or point of transmission to try to reduce these occurrences as much as humanly possibly.

    As we've seen with other epidemics: Once high numbers of healthcare workers in hospital environments start getting infected, it becomes insanely difficult to control. It requires very focused interventions that I have yet to see implemented or attempted on the ground


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    cracking positivity rate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Miike wrote: »
    As we've seen with other epidemics: Once high numbers of healthcare workers in hospital environments start getting infected, it becomes insanely difficult to control. It requires very focused interventions that I have yet to see implemented or attempted on the ground
    Yes. Very difficult. Not as if the hospital or nursing home can simply close for a few weeks to break the chains of transmission!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    246 positive swabs from 10,408 tests. 2.36% positivity


    We now have lowest 7 day positivity rate since October 2nd.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    wadacrack you have been warned about this before, consider this your final warning - stop dumping links in the thread without any commentary or your access to post here will be removed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Ni Numbers. Stop deleting these posts please. Updating people on numbers obviously is fine.

    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1330149321690525702


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    New study published in the National Library of Medicine in the US has recommended mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.
    COVID-19 is characterized by marked variability in clinical severity. Vitamin D had recently been reviewed as one of the factors that may affect the severity in COVID-19. The objective of current study is to analyze the vitamin D level in COVID-19 patients and its impact on the disease severity. After approval from Ethics Committee, M.L.B Medical College the current study was undertaken as continuous prospective observational study of 6 weeks. Participants were COVID-19 patients of age group 30-60 years admitted during the study period of 6 weeks. Study included either asymptomatic COVID-19 patients (Group A) or severely ill patients requiring ICU admission (Group B). Serum concentration of 25 (OH)D, were measured along with serum IL-6; TNFα and serum ferritin. Standard statistical analysis was performed to analyze the differences. Current Study enrolled 154 patients, 91 in Group A and 63 patients in Group B. The mean level of vitamin D (in ng/mL) was 27.89 ± 6.21 in Group A and 14.35 ± 5.79 in Group B, the difference was highly significant. The prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was 32.96% and 96.82% respectively in Group A and Group B. Out of total 154 patients, 90 patients were found to be deficient in vitamin D (Group A: 29; Group B: 61). Serum level of inflammatory markers was found to be higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients viz. IL-6 level (in pg/mL) 19.34 ± 6.17 vs 12.18 ± 4.29; Serum ferritin 319.17 ± 38.21 ng/mL vs 186.83 ± 20.18 ng/mL; TNFα level (in pg/mL) 13.26 ± 5.64 vs 11.87 ± 3.15. The fatality rate was high in vitamin D deficient (21% vs 3.1%). Vitamin D level is markedly low in severe COVID-19 patients. Inflammatory response is high in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates into increased mortality in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. As per the flexible approach in the current COVID-19 pandemic authors recommend mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33214648/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Great stuff.


    I reckon we'll see closer to 300 today as I believe they've held back some from yesterday.

    Ah they wouldn't do that, would they :pac:

    Great to see numbers continuing to come down. I still take daily numbers with a pinch of salt though, much better to get an overall picture from the 7 or 14 day averages. And they're going the right way which is the main thing albeit slower than before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    If those people who the individual has been in contact with after getting the virus from the first contact have taken the necessary precautions when in contact with that individual then they are at no more risk of getting the virus than they are of being struck by lightning in a thunderstorm.

    Self-isolation fulfills the public-interest obligation.

    No it doesn't. If you are positive but isolate without being tested, have mild symptoms and recover.... bully for you, but we (wider society) have lost data in the fight to keep everyone else safe as your case and it's associated factors go unrecorded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    New study published in the National Library of Medicine in the US has recommended mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33214648/


    This is a simple thing that people can do to help protect themselves. Lots of studies now saying the same thing that Vit D can have a huge impact on a persons ability to resist the virus and their survival rates.

    It seems to be one of the easiest things to do but have not heard much from the Irish authorities about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Great stuff.


    I reckon we'll see closer to 300 today as I believe they've held back some from yesterday.

    I thought there was more positive swabs reported over the last 10 days or so than positive cases announced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    eigrod wrote: »
    I thought there was more positive swabs reported over the last 10 days or so than positive cases announced?

    Under 200 today I reckon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    eigrod wrote: »
    I thought there was more positive swabs reported over the last 10 days or so than positive cases announced?
    380 yesterday with 330 reported?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    New study published in the National Library of Medicine in the US has recommended mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.


    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33214648/
    It’s definitely interesting but pre-existing Vitamin D deficiency is in itself a confounding factor in assessing inflammatory response and clinical outcomes. Study is from India. Although they note a statistically significant difference in vitamin D levels between the two groups, the Vitamin D levels in asymptomatic group also seem somewhat low but there are lots of different definitions of and debate about what a normal vitamin D level should be.

    Those most likely to be vitamin D deficient may have a poorer diet, less healthy lifestyle and more co-morbidities. They may have tried to correct for co-morbidities and match age groups in the two cohorts but it is very hard to correct for diet and lifestyle in those studies. Group with lower vitamin D levels may also be more likely to fair worse for those other reasons.

    A therapeutic trial in those with vitamin D deficiency who contract Covid would need to be carried out to confirm an actual therapeutic benefit.

    Observational prospective studies like that can generate a hypothesis but a randomized controlled trial would be needed to confirm benefit. In the meantime, would probably not do any harm to correct the deficiency as long as don’t overdose on Vitamin D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    If someone has symptoms that might be of Covid and stays at home for the necessary length of time but doesn't become severely ill, then I don't see the necessity of informing his or her GP. Informing the GP causes unnecessary anxiety to other people and inflates the statistics, thus making the situation seem worse than it actually is.
    That would increase the reported fatality rate. The "government is trying to trick us" crowd would have a field day then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Ni Numbers. Stop deleting these posts please. Updating people on numbers obviously is fine.

    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1330149321690525702

    Case numbers seem to be down but the test numbers (2500 individuals is piddling) so it's pretty irrelevant.

    By the way regarding your posts being deleted you may want to talk to mods about the line but in general if you post a link you should comment on it rather than just spam links as it becomes spam very quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    What time is the press release of cases today, hopefully twenty minutes. Thread is extremely quiet today.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    4 deaths, 344 cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Another 100+ backlog?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Another 100+ backlog?

    That’s come from nowhere


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    That’s come from nowhere

    Private testing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Another 100+ backlog?

    Cases yesterday v swabs was about 50 out I think it was.

    Expected around 300 myself but no idea tbh.

    At least daily test positivity is going down as shown today, whatever about daily cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Private testing?

    I think that ship has sailed on private testing. Can’t be 100 positive private tests


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Decision time approaching......keep cases high as possible....mis-report case positivity rate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Cases yesterday v swabs was about 50 out I think it was.

    Expected around 300 myself but no idea tbh.

    At least daily test positivity is going down as shown today, whatever about daily cases.

    But will this be the stick we’re beaten with come Thursday. We know positivity is dropping but back log cases makes it look worse off then it actually is


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