Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

whiskeyman wrote: »

BBC news showed downtown Washington DC being boarded up like a hurricane about to hit.

A Biden win could spur Trump to be erratic and his gun loving supporters to be moreso.

EasycomeEasygo wrote: »

I don't think business owners are boarding up because of Trump supporters

Tell me how wrote: »

Ahem

Exhibit A


Exhibit B


Exhibit C


Exhibit D

whiskeyman wrote: »

I think we can expect civil unrest either way.
Which group would you prefer to be unsettled?

newhouse87 wrote: »

if you honestly believe far right wingers(who i despise btw)have caused more destruction to American cities this year than far left groups (also despise) then you are even more blinkered than i thought.

EasycomeEasygo wrote: »

For every example of violence by the far right there are much worse on the other side. David Dorn is just one of many

Tell me how wrote: »

Well, the FBI think the far right extremists are the biggest threat to America right now so I'm gonna go with them rather than your good self.

Tell me how wrote: »

Well, the FBI think the far right extremists are the biggest threat to America right now so I'm gonna go with them rather than your good self.

newhouse87 wrote: »

portland you may have heard of.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/city-multnomah-county-detail-violence-cost-of-repairs-damage-in-response-to-dont-shoot-portlands-motion-to-restrict-tear-gas-less-lethal-weapons.html

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

There have been sustained protests in Portland for months with a massive police response.......but they have not come close to shutting down the entire city, never mind destroying it.


Here's some links that dispute the narrative that leftists are destroying cities, that leftists are worse than any far right violence, etc, etc;


In America, far-right terrorist plots have outnumbered far-left ones in 2020

Far-Right Groups Are Behind Most U.S. Terrorist Attacks, Report Finds


Protest arrests show regular Americans, not antifa or urban left-wing radicals

Regardless of the outcome of the United States’ election, democracy as we know it is already imperiled. However, it is not too late to turn the tide.

Whether Donald J. Trump is a fascist, a post-fascist populist, an autocrat, or just a bumbling opportunist, the danger to democracy did not arrive with his presidency and goes well beyond November 3rd, 2020.

While democracy appeared to be flourishing everywhere in the years following the end of the Cold War, today it seems to be withering or in full-scale collapse globally. As scholars of twentieth century authoritarian populism, fascism, and political extremism, we believe that unless we take immediate action, democracy as we know it will continue in its frightening regression, irrespective of who wins the American presidency in early November.

In contrast to the hollow proclamations of economic and political liberalism’s “inevitable” triumph over authoritarianism in all its iterations, studying the past demonstrates that democracy is extremely fragile and potentially temporary, requiring vigilance and protection. Scholars of race, colonialism, and imperialism have further deepened our perspectives by reminding us of how the myths of national “greatness” were and continue to be written on the backs of largely silenced, marginalized and oftentimes enslaved or unfree, “others.”

We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security.

We have seen all of these patterns in our study of the past, and we recognize the signs of a crisis of democracy in today’s world as well. The Covid-19 pandemic has exposed profound inequalities of class and race across the globe. As the last four years have demonstrated, the temptation to take refuge in a figure of arrogant strength is now greater than ever.

To meet the challenge at hand, there are several things we must do.

We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law. We must replace the politics of “internal enemies” with a politics of adversaries in a healthy, democratic marketplace of ideas. And above else, we need to work together to find ways to keep the light of democracy shining in our countries and all over the world. Because if we don’t, we will indeed face dark days ahead.

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Giulia Albanese | Professor of History, Università degli Studi di Padova (Italy)

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Overheal wrote: »

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

in 2016 our Mexico trade deficit was $63.2B. In 2019 it was over $101.4B.

USCMA was made effective in July and our numbers for August, a $12.76 B deficit, was the single biggest monthly loss in our trade balance with Mexico, ever. The next 3 worst months are all in 2020 and $10B+ each.

So how are they paying for this 'wall?'

Tell me how wrote: »

I'm looking at the broader picture, you want to look at the only subset at which you can grasp to to try to create a narrative.

It's predictable, boring and pointless.