Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

Cody montana

patnor1011 wrote: »

Somehow I do not think that majority of US people have any clue who Leo or Mary Lou are despite that we share the same planet.

You dismiss the scientists, the environmentalists, the doctors and the educators.
You kind of do.

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Phoebas wrote: »

That being the case, then why is Trump telling us that a vote for Biden is a vote for radical Socialism?

Desperation.

Biden is further right than FG and the Tories in Britain.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

harrylittle wrote: »

I don't get why so many irish folk are so against Trump ...its very weird

Popularity contest - as is the case with most stances that Irish people take on things.

Don't ask critical questions... just figure out which stance is the more popular and more likely to make you look good in the majority's eyes.

The need to be popular or well liked, is really a curse in life imo. It poisons your mind and warps your ego. Prevents you from thinking independently.

hometruths

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Handling a crisis is part of the presidential package.

Trump failed because he is hopelessly incompetent.

Agreed, he made a balls of it. So, hypothetically, if he does win the election what can we conclude?

That despite making a mess of covid he has otherwise been a competent president?

or

Biden is such a weak candidate he could not beat a proven incompetent president?

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Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Handling a crisis is part of the presidential package.

Trump failed because he is hopelessly incompetent.

I somehow suspect the death toll would be fairly similar no matter who was in charge. America has a system of devolved government and extreme economic indiviualism.

They were never gonna shut down. Americans believe in the almighty dollar and McDonald's. This has nothing to do with Trump.

hometruths

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Not according to 538

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo

Unverified.

froog

hotmail.com wrote: »

I suspect so and this will lead to the election of some other nut job in 4 or 8 years.

ivanka and junior are most definitely are eyeing future runs.

kevinmcm

Trump is toast

Presidential Support Among:

Those Who Voted:
Biden: 69%
Trump: 31%

Those Who Haven't Voted Yet:
Trump: 49%
Biden: 48%

Data For Progress / October 29, 2020 / n=1403 / Online


https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/11/1/joe-biden-continues-to-lead-trump-heading-into-election-day

vojiwox

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

The need to be popular or well liked, is really a curse in life imo. It poisons your mind and warps your ego. Prevents you from thinking independently.

Well at least now you're aware of the problem you can work on it. And next time you won't be thanking deep fake videos

Kermit.de.frog

schmittel wrote: »

Unverified.

How is it "unverified"? It's a highly reputable site.

That's a collection of all polling ironed out.

Dig in. :cool:

dark crystal

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Popularity contest - as is the case with most stances that Irish people take on things.

Don't ask critical questions... just figure out which stance is the more popular and more likely to make you look good in the majority's eyes.

The need to be popular or well liked, is really a curse in life imo. It poisons your mind and warps your ego. Prevents you from thinking independently.

Is that why Trump feels the need to hold so many super-spreader rallies?

Himpy5

gmisk wrote: »

What is there to like about him exactly?

Saved the world from Hillary
Defeated ISIS
Built the wall
Good relations with Russia
Went to North Korea to sort things out
Saved Doonbeg Golf club
Moved ghetto embassy to Jerusalem
Stopped the Ukraine / Russia conflict
Built a great economy which he will rebuild

Himpy5

gmisk wrote: »

What is there to like about him exactly?

Saved the world from Hillary
Defeated ISIS
Built the wall
Good relations with Russia
Went to North Korea to sort things out
Saved Doonbeg Golf club
Moved the embassy to Jerusalem
Stopped the Ukraine / Russia conflict
Built a great economy which he will rebuild

hotmail.com

froog wrote: »

ivanka and junior are most definitely are eyeing future runs.

This is surely why pressure must be put on Biden to ensure economic changes to the working poor in America.

Not one mention of this from what I've seen.

Nice speeches is what excites some people.

Kermit.de.frog

Himpy5 wrote: »

Saved the world from Hillary

Built the wall

All 5 miles of it?

Melanchthon

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

People very rarely change their identified affiliations, they change their votes.

There is no republican in Arizona happy with the way Trump treated McCain - none. McCain is a hero in that state.

Plenty of registered republicans will vote for Joe Biden (as in other states) - it's a question of the percentage.

Very true actually know a lad who's still a registered republican who has said he will vote against him, has there been any polling of Republicans in particular?

Danzy

kevinmcm wrote: »

Trump is toast

Presidential Support Among:

Those Who Voted:
Biden: 69%
Trump: 31%

Those Who Haven't Voted Yet:
Trump: 49%
Biden: 48%

Data For Progress / October 29, 2020 / n=1403 / Online


https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/11/1/joe-biden-continues-to-lead-trump-heading-into-election-day

Which says that all the Polls are wrong to a level unheard of or unimaginable.

Ultra Red Alaska may flip...

Kermit.de.frog

Melanchthon wrote: »

Very true actually know a lad who's still a registered republican who has said he will vote against him, has there been any polling of Republicans in particular?

Last I saw was 13% of republicans voting for Biden. I'll see if I can dig it up.

cameramonkey

harrylittle wrote: »

I don't get why so many irish folk are so against Trump ...its very weird

It is pretty normal really, no one would vote for a clown like Trump outside of the States. A man who thinks drinking bleach or shining a light inside your body to kill a virus is not the stuff of leaders except if you happen to be an idiot.

Sweetemotion

Wide awake Joe's, creepy zealots are getting nervous tonight.

dark crystal

Melanchthon wrote: »

Very true actually know a lad who's still a registered republican who has said he will vote against him, has there been any polling of Republicans in particular?

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-11-01/bidens-secret-weapon-anti-trump-republicans

Republican ranks have shrunk this year. In January, more Americans said they were Republicans or Republican-leaning than Democrats or Democratic-leaning — 47% to 45%, according to a Gallup poll.

Now the Democrats hold the advantage, 49% to 45%, Gallup has found.

Moreover, Biden appears to draw more support from dissident Republicans than Trump gets from renegade Democrats.

In the Pew poll, 6% of Republicans said they would vote for Biden; only 3% of Democrats planned to vote for Trump. Other surveys have found similar results.

hometruths

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How is it "unverified"? It's a highly reputable site.

That's a collection of all polling ironed out.

Dig in. :cool:

It was half a joke given the obsession round here of everything having to be verified to hitherto unforeseen high standards.

Obviously a prediction is always going to be unverified by definition. It can be validated by the result.

538 has looked at the polls and made a prediction. So have I. Only difference is I have not simulated the election 40,000 times.

It remains to be seen whose prediction is validated by the result.

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If Trump loses, it will be a disaster for the Republicans. The first one term president since George Bush Sr, but that term came after 8 years of Reagan.

So this one termer must be compared with Jimmy Carter, a similarly unpopular president when he left office.

cameramonkey

hotmail.com wrote: »

This is surely why pressure must be put on Biden to ensure economic changes to the working poor in America.

Not one mention of this from what I've seen.

Nice speeches is what excites some people.

Biden will do nothing for the poor, his USP is that he is not as bad as Trump.

Himpy5

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Popularity contest - as is the case with most stances that Irish people take on things.

Don't ask critical questions... just figure out which stance is the more popular and more likely to make you look good in the majority's eyes.

The need to be popular or well liked, is really a curse in life imo. It poisons your mind and warps your ego. Prevents you from thinking independently.

It's kind of funny but insane
I was defending Trump to my own children who had heard bullshi7 in school about Trump

Their reply. And not joking "If Hitler was alive you'd vote for him"

Laughing as I type that. Cmon man what are they telling children in school

paleoperson

cameramonkey wrote: »

It is pretty normal really, no one would vote for a clown like Trump outside of the States. A man who thinks drinking bleach or shining a light inside your body to kill a virus is not the stuff of leaders except if you happen to be an idiot.

Trump didn't say either of those things.

You know Trump didn't say to drink bleach and doesn't think it so why are you inventing this story? Why do you feel the need to make up things so other people look like idiots?

Also what makes you think shining a light inside your body won't kill the virus?

Cody montana

Himpy5 wrote: »

Saved the world from Hillary
Defeated ISIS
Built the wall
Good relations with Russia
Went to North Korea to sort things out
Saved Doonbeg Golf club
Moved ghetto embassy to Jerusalem
Stopped the Ukraine / Russia conflict

I’ll pick one.....for fun.

“Built a great economy which he will rebuild”

You kind of missed the middle part about the recession.

cameramonkey

Himpy5 wrote: »

It's kind of funny but insane
I was defending Trump to my own children who had heard bullshi7 in school about Trump

Their reply. And not joking "If Hitler was alive you'd vote for him"

Laughing as I type that. Cmon man what are they telling children in school

Did you deny that you would vote for Hitler or consider that it would be a possibility?

Himpy5

dark crystal wrote: »

Is that why Trump feels the need to hold so many super-spreader rallies?

Trump support isn't afraid of no microscopic virus
We'll blast that goddarn virus with our Ar15

Phoebas

Himpy5 wrote: »

It's kind of funny but insane
I was defending Trump to my own children who had heard bullshi7 in school about Trump

Their reply. And not joking "If Hitler was alive you'd vote for him"

Laughing as I type that. Cmon man what are they telling children in school

Any chance that they're picking it up from home?

I mean - I'd bet that the other children, attending the same school aren't telling their parents this.