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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #6332
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    Is that their highest amount of deaths in a single day?


  • #6333
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    What a mess they have up there.


  • #6334
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Thats up to the doctors to decide.

    In general if your asymptomatic you'd be discharged home to isolate for the 10 days but if they feel it best your kept in then your kept in, there's a few factors at play such as did the person come from a nursing home for example, but you'd still be classed as a covid admission while your there, so if your still there when the data is collected for the HSE report then you'll show in the report as an admission.

    Could be gone out of the report by 8am the next morning if you've been discharged in the meantime.

    Based on how mild this disease is in the huge majority of cases i would hope most people who contract it in hospital can be sent home.

    A person that has Covid poses a risk to staff and other patients especially if they don't need to be there. We need our resources helping those in need.


  • #6335
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,734 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    They'd need to be isolated anyway.

    We have a capacity crisis. It's not due to hospitals being full of asymptomatic people.

    Capacity crisis? Didnt Leo just say the other day that there are plenty of beds available? even more than usual for this time of year?


  • #6336
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    4318 individuals tested.

    16.7% positivity. Compares to 25% positivity yesterday.

    I do think we could do with a ni megathread. Feels like ni gets lost apart from a few minutes discussion every day.


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  • #6337
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Capacity crisis? Didnt Leo just say the other day that there are plenty of beds available? even more than usual for this time of year?

    One thing we definitely don't have at the moment is a capacity crisis

    https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1320379523637104641


  • #6338
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Do people getting admitted via accident and emergency get tested ahead of getting admitted.

    I doubt it unless they were at home and condition is worse. Given the level of community spread that would lead to the appearance of low numbers of admissions but higher number of those in hospital who appear to have contracted it there. Of course there are outbreaks but they don't quite tally.


  • #6339
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    The belt on my jeans went kaput this morning. Spent half the day wandering into shops with my trousers half hanging off me. Belts aren't essential apparently.

    Bailing twine for now.

    In this together my arse.


  • #6340
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    Hopefully they are past their peak this winter, 13 deaths is pretty alarming


  • #6341
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do people getting admitted via accident and emergency get tested ahead of getting admitted.

    I doubt it unless they were at home and condition is worse. Given the level of community spread that would lead to the appearance of low numbers of admissions but higher number of those in hospital who appear to have contracted it there. Of course there are outbreaks but they don't quite tally.

    Yes they do, and are treated as having it untill they get a negative result. That's what suspected case's mean


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  • #6342
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭prunudo


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do people getting admitted via accident and emergency get tested ahead of getting admitted.

    I doubt it unless they were at home and condition is worse. Given the level of community spread that would lead to the appearance of low numbers of admissions but higher number of those in hospital who appear to have contracted it there. Of course there are outbreaks but they don't quite tally.

    Yes and no. I had the to go Vincent's a&e last week. Ended up staying one night in a ward. They did a covid test and the usual covid questionnaires before sending me up to the ward. Now I didn't get the result till later but my understanding was that should I have needed surgery i wouldn't have been allowed until they had covid result back.


  • #6343
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dont you think after making people wait 3 days for testing data, they would be a bit considerate and get it out earlier today


  • #6344
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    prunudo wrote: »
    Yes and no. I had the to go Vincent's a&e last week. Ended up staying one night in a ward. They did a covid test and the usual covid questionnaires before sending me up to the ward. Now I didn't get the result till later but my understanding was that should I have needed surgery i wouldn't have been allowed until they had covid result back.
    Were you isolated until you got your result or sharing a ward with others?


  • #6345
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭Longing


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do people getting admitted via accident and emergency get tested ahead of getting admitted.

    I doubt it unless they were at home and condition is worse. Given the level of community spread that would lead to the appearance of low numbers of admissions but higher number of those in hospital who appear to have contracted it there. Of course there are outbreaks but they don't quite tally.


    My experience had to go to Cavan General last Friday to the medical unit. Ongoing medial problem was tested has my problem could relate to covid and I was negative. I was in the medical unit for 6hrs. In the afternoon I heard a nurse saying we have two positive cases in those two rooms these patients just arrived in and nurse said to doctor they had no symptoms. I know there was one old women she was in because she fell. The doctor in charge of the medical unit ordered all incoming patients that day to be tested.


  • #6346
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    They've finally made masks mandatory when donating blood. I was in last week giving my 6th donation since March, and while all the staff wore them all the time, it was only on this visit that is was made mandatory for donors.


  • #6347
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    And they didn't close their golf courses or gyms! I thought these were primary Vectors of transmission?!!:confused:

    Hopefully our government take note of a smarter more nuanced approach being effective.


  • #6348
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Stheno wrote: »
    Were you isolated until you got your result or sharing a ward with others?

    No, wearing mask at all times but while in a&e on a trolley in a cubicle with everyone else. Then brought up to ward, 4 other people in there, who had been there varying lenghts.
    Separated by curtain from other beds on both occasions. I wore the mask at all times, not that I was told it was mandatory, just did as i thought it was the right thing to do.
    I was discharged after 24hrs, was actually home before i got the negative notification but not sure if hospital knew earlier.


  • #6349
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NI reporting 722 cases and 13 deaths

    Per capita that would be the same as the Republic reporting 39 deaths. It is very bad.


  • #6350
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,922 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    They've finally made masks mandatory when donating blood. I was in last week giving my 6th donation since March, and while all the staff wore them all the time, it was only on this visit that is was made mandatory for donors.

    And that was for very good reason in case people fainted the nurses could spot it early on. But no doubt mask mania now trumps that little nugget of common sense too


  • #6351
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Well he'd be okay if you called it the "Occupied Six Counties" megathread:P

    But this one would need to be changed to Free State rather than ROI. (Which begs the question why are NI results posted here - he'd love if they were in the UK response thread).


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  • #6352
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    Golfman64 wrote: »


    And they didn't close their golf courses or gyms! I thought these were primary Vectors of transmission?!!:confused:

    Hopefully our government take note of a smarter more nuanced approach being effective.

    how is NI disastrous numbers a more nuanced approach... they are consistently amongst the highest per capita rates in europe?


  • #6353
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Golfman64 wrote: »


    And they didn't close their golf courses or gyms! I thought these were primary Vectors of transmission?!!:confused:

    Hopefully our government take note of a smarter more nuanced approach being effective.

    You think the NI numbers show their response has been effective? Dream on.


  • #6354
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    They've finally made masks mandatory when donating blood. I was in last week giving my 6th donation since March, and while all the staff wore them all the time, it was only on this visit that is was made mandatory for donors.

    Gave blood over a month ago and it was mandatory for all in attendance to wear a mask.
    Only took it off when you're actually giving blood, so they can check your face for signs of faint/going pale etc


  • #6355
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Do people getting admitted via accident and emergency get tested ahead of getting admitted.

    I doubt it unless they were at home and condition is worse. Given the level of community spread that would lead to the appearance of low numbers of admissions but higher number of those in hospital who appear to have contracted it there. Of course there are outbreaks but they don't quite tally.

    Pre-symptomatic viral shedding is the BIG problem, if someone admitted and is in the incubation period they may not be detected and go on to infect others a few days later.

    image-12.png?w=567
    After the initial exposure, patients typically develop symptoms within 5-6 days (incubation period). SARS-CoV-2 generates a diverse range of clinical manifestations, ranging from mild infection to severe disease accompanied by high mortality. In patients with mild infection, initial host immune response is capable of controlling the infection. In severe disease, excessive immune response leads to organ damage, intensive care admission, or death. The viral load peaks in the first week of infection, declines thereafter gradually, while the antibody response gradually increases and is often detectable by day 14.

    From a recent Clinical Update in the BMJ.


  • #6356
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    Derek Zoolander wrote: »
    how is NI disastrous numbers a more nuanced approach... they are consistently amongst the highest per capita rates in europe?

    They are disastrous but cases are trending downwards since they implemented their version of lockdown which was a more nuanced approach to ours. Time will tell, I guess, if we really needed to close all retail, gyms, sports amenities or if we could have been more specific.


  • #6357
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    US2 wrote: »
    Yes they do, and are treated as having it untill they get a negative result. That's what suspected case's mean

    Not every patient getting admitted gets tested.


  • #6358
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Amirani wrote: »
    Not every patient getting admitted gets tested.

    In hospitals? Why would they not test everyone being admitted?


  • #6359
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Stheno wrote: »
    In hospitals? Why would they not test everyone being admitted?

    Not exactly sure why they haven't decided to test everyone. You'd probably struggle to get things done if you were testing everyone including those with very low pre-test probabilities.

    They do test a lot though, would be well over half of admissions that get a test (in the main Dublin hospitals anyway).


  • #6360
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My wife got a message on her phone from the Covid app saying she has two exposures in the last week...

    What is she meant to do now?

    It’s strange because I didn’t get the notification and we’ve been together at all times apart from when she was inside with her GP.


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  • #6361
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Amirani wrote: »
    Not every patient getting admitted gets tested.

    Source ? I'm fairly certain they do.


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