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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #4562
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,057 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »
    Because it’s increasing the spread of the virus, kids are bringing it home to parents and grandparents, kids could spread it in other places, teachers are at risk if vulnerable themselves or brining it home to elderly or vulnerable people etc etc.

    It's already spread to a lot of places, the pandemic is over here, it's endemic now. Time to move on get back to living.

    Let's say we were target testing in January and picking up 1000 cases a day if we had the capacity. That's 300,000 positive cases we would have picked up, now we're estimating 8000 close contacts were missed over 3 days. That would put the total amount of close contacts missed to date at 780,000.
    Now we have to ask how many cases are we missing due to being asymptomatic maybe 1 in 7.
    It's not crazy to suggest it's passed through most of the population already, it certainly would explain the short sharp death rate increase at the start of testing.
    It's over, it's going to claim some more lives but nothing like we're being lead to believe.


  • #4563
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I'd say your employer is getting great value for money.

    P.S. I'm on a day off. Not wasting my employer's time.

    I’ve always dedicated a screen to non-work stuff for over 10 years now across two different employers without issue.

    Maybe you can’t multitask very well?


  • #4564
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »
    They have already stood up in court with people fined in court from breaches in the last lockdown.

    yes, they have WITH COVID themselves... defend this??? have you a box of crackers handy with that tripe?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/court-shuts-down-after-senior-member-of-an-garda-siochana-tested-positive-for-covid-19-39625051.html


  • #4565
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,557 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »
    Maybe you can’t multitask very well?

    No problem with multi-tasking at all Nox... its a fundamental requirement of the job.

    You're pretty deft at the multitasking, we all know that. Can't be easy to avoid spilling the beer while negotiating the roundabouts.


  • #4566
    JimToken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭JimToken


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    They will reopen, from what i'm seeing in schools the HSE has taken a heard immunity strategy by not testing almost refusing to test and redefining what a close contact is.
    Our local secondary has now got all 5th & 6th year out with the other years limping along.
    If it was any other place it would be closed. The HSE say they don't need to be tested as they were wearing masks, then people are still getting sick but just sent home.
    I really hope this is as harmless for under 18's as we're lead to believe with no long term implications for them.

    I think what's happening is having schools open is seen as the baseline for a functioning society.

    See if the virus can be contained with schools open and open up more business after that


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  • #4567
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    JimToken wrote: »
    I think what's happening is having schools open is seen as the baseline for a functioning society.

    See if the virus can be contained with schools open and open up more business after that

    Yip. A bit half ass3d though. They should have kept the restaurants/bars open to further that controlled study.


  • #4568
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »
    I’ve always dedicated a screen to non-work stuff for over 10 years now across two different employers without issue.

    Maybe you can’t multitask very well?

    How much time is dedicated to boards? Id say its a 80/20 split boards/work


  • #4569
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Jorge Limited Maze wrote: »
    Because it’s increasing the spread of the virus, kids are bringing it home to parents and grandparents, kids could spread it in other places, teachers are at risk if vulnerable themselves or brining it home to elderly or vulnerable people etc etc.



    Schools aren’t baby sitting services, who looked after her in the first lockdown or who will look after her during midterm?

    First lockdown my wife had to work from home and try to keep her occupied at the same time. Midterm? We are both off for the week. Babysitting service? You really are unable to grasp even the most simple of things aren’t you?


  • #4570
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    The only surprising thing about this latest lockdown is the kickback against it-
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/diarmaid-ferriter-we-have-been-infantilised-with-promises-of-christmas-1.4388486

    Outside the Rte Nphet government bubble there’s major fissures appearing in the Covid dam from places where you’d have seen unwavering support last March


  • #4571
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Miriam ocallaghan to her credit gave both sides of the argument last night- her peers could learn a lot about not being over emotionally wed to the lockdown like the useless C Byrne


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  • #4572
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114782310


    So our recent uptick in deaths are being caused by nursing home infections again.

    I predicted as much nearly a month ago (see above).

    They should be testing nursing home staff and residents at least weekly if not twice weekly, instead they have moved to fortnightly testing.

    Have they learned nothing from the last time?

    If we have limited resources for testing then cut back on testing schoolkids and asymptomatic young adults who are 'close contacts' and test the places with high mortality rates, but that policy probably wouldn't work in NPHET's eyes as they want to keep the case numbers high.


  • #4573
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    The only surprising thing about this latest lockdown is the kickback against it-
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/diarmaid-ferriter-we-have-been-infantilised-with-promises-of-christmas-1.4388486

    Outside the Rte Nphet government bubble there’s major fissures appearing in the Covid dam from places where you’d have seen unwavering support last March

    Wonder what carrot waving they will do in Jan/Feb. i’m sure they will wave the Paddy’s day carrot. “ if we pull together we might have a great Patricks day”


  • #4574
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114782310


    So our recent uptick in deaths are being caused by nursing home infections again.

    I predicted as much nearly a month ago (see above).

    They should be testing nursing home staff and residents at least weekly if not twice weekly, instead they have moved to fortnightly testing.

    Have they learned nothing from the last time?

    If we have limited resources for testing then cut back on testing schoolkids and asymptomatic young adults who are 'close contacts' and test the places with high mortality rates, but that policy probably wouldn't work in NPHET's eyes as they want to keep the case numbers high.




    No surprise it's ravaging the homes again :/


    Is this just after coming out or are you looking at the HPSC reports?


  • #4575
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Wonder what carrot waving they will do in Jan/Feb. i’m sure they will wave the Paddy’s day carrot. “ if we pull together we might have a great Patricks day”


    "Let's weather Spring so we can go on holidays in the Summer"

    The next two seasons are critical :pac:


  • #4576
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    No surprise it's ravaging the homes again :/


    Is this just after coming out or are you looking at the HPSC reports?

    They said so last night in the briefing and it's reported today that 24 of the deaths this month are Nursing homes.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/death-rate-is-set-to-climb-as-second-wave-threatens-care-homes-39658189.html


  • #4577
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    They said so last night in the briefing and it's reported today that 24 of the deaths this month are Nursing homes.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/death-rate-is-set-to-climb-as-second-wave-threatens-care-homes-39658189.html


    F*cking hell, again :eek::eek:


  • #4578
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    F*cking hell, again :eek::eek:

    Yeah it's a joke. I know a nursing home staff member who had his test cancelled last month because the testing system couldn't cope with all the kids being brought to testing centres with sniffles after going back to school.

    They had to scale back weekly to fortnightly testing of staff.

    They have literally learned nothing about protecting the vulnerable and are back to making the exact same mistakes again.

    Dr Hulahoop just blames Joe Public for high spread community transmission and says nursing homes can't be protected if community transmission is high.
    he might be right to some extent but he could at least try.


  • #4579
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Yeah it's a joke. I know a nursing home staff member who had his test cancelled last month because the testing system couldn't cope with all the kids being brought to testing centres with sniffles after going back to school.

    They had to scale back weekly to fortnightly testing of staff.

    They have literally learned nothing about protecting the vulnerable and are back to making the exact same mistakes again.

    Dr Hulahoop just blames Joe Public for high spread community transmission and says nursing homes can't be protected if community transmission is high.
    he might be right to some extent but he could at least try.


    Shocking. I agree with you - they can at least try. It'd be more than what they're doing now which is nothing.


    And LOL @ Dr Hulahoop


  • #4580
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    funnydoggy wrote: »

    And LOL @ Dr Hulahoop

    With this and the cervical check scandal, he should probably be nicknamed Dr Death


  • #4581
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    normanoffside wrote: »
    With this and the cervical check scandal, he should probably be nicknamed Dr Death


    People are quick to forget and are idolising him. See that one mural of him as a superhero? Chr*st on a bike:rolleyes:


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  • #4582
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,956 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    normanoffside wrote: »
    They said so last night in the briefing and it's reported today that 24 of the deaths this month are Nursing homes.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/death-rate-is-set-to-climb-as-second-wave-threatens-care-homes-39658189.html

    In fairness, how could anybody have known that the virus disproportionately affects older vulnerable people such as you find in nursing homes.


  • #4583
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    In fairness, how could anybody have known that the virus disproportionately affects older vulnerable people such as you find in nursing homes.

    We have to protect the most vulnerable in society.
    In order to do so we will concentrate testing on the least vulnerable and cut back on testing of the Vulnerable and their care workers.

    Like a dog chasing its tail.


  • #4584
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Wonder what carrot waving they will do in Jan/Feb. i’m sure they will wave the Paddy’s day carrot. “ if we pull together we might have a great Patricks day”

    Haha yeah.

    Tubridy will be on his show pleading with his audience to give one final push so everyone can wear the green on paddy’s day.


  • #4585
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    normanoffside wrote: »
    They said so last night in the briefing and it's reported today that 24 of the deaths this month are Nursing homes.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/death-rate-is-set-to-climb-as-second-wave-threatens-care-homes-39658189.html

    The picture in the top of that link need to be attached to the thesaurus definition of pompous.


  • #4586
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Some great points made by the professor in the UK and the economist, the Irish doctor sounds crazy and extremely dangerous with his zero Covid BS :rolleyes:



  • #4587
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Wonder what carrot waving they will do in Jan/Feb. i’m sure they will wave the Paddy’s day carrot. “ if we pull together we might have a great Patricks day”

    They can shove the carrots where the rib don’t shine- especially Dracula Harris


  • #4588
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    Some great points made by the professor in the UK and the economist, the Irish doctor sounds crazy and extremely dangerous with his zero Covid BS :rolleyes:


    He isn’t a medical doctor- to be clear he’s an academic in TCD Neurology department- not even a virologist or microbiologist


  • #4589
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    Some great points made by the professor in the UK and the economist, the Irish doctor sounds crazy and extremely dangerous with his zero Covid BS :rolleyes:


    What a statement

    “We need to have a grown up conversation about death”

    Never was a truer word spoken this year.

    The usual nonsense “what about the dead people”.

    78% of deaths in this country are over the age of 75.

    I pulled out of a debate on some other thread a while ago because children were being accounted a similar life value to 88 year olds.


  • #4590
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    He isn’t a medical doctor- to be clear he’s an academic in TCD Neurology department- not even a virologist or microbiologist

    He is an actual doctor unlike a medical doctor.


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  • #4591
    Seanachai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Whatsisname wrote: »
    I’m in my mid 20s and tbh, practically everyone I know my age and younger seems to be giddy with the new restrictions. Thankfully for me I don’t live in Ireland anymore and have no intentions of returning home anytime soon. My social media was full of “lockdown eve” and how “if we did it once, we can do it again, better this time” and the like last night. Nobody my age seems to want to even discuss the possibility that these lockdowns have dire consequences as you’ll be labelled “right wing” “anti mask” “granny killer” and all those other ridiculous terms.

    I would imagine reddit has a younger demographic than boards and the Ireland subreddit is embarrassing right now. They’ve been screaming for more restrictions for months and encouraging police brutality on anyone who protests against lockdowns. It’s a full on asylum over there.

    My generation should be angrier right now but they’re seemingly happy to roll over. It’s sad.

    Most of the people I see wearing masks outdoors in my neighbourhood are in their 20's, the deference to authority in this age group is strange.


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