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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    It never ceases to amaze me how the biggest critics of sex workers and/or anyone connected to the pornographic industry are actually people who never facilitate it. Like what do they know?

    I have discussed sex work with many people ( men and women ) who have worked in the industry first hand. A majority of them just see it as a job. They would all agree that it toughens the soul a little and some of them have developed very strict social benchmarks as a result. But all of them are rational normal human beings.

    It is the anti prostitution lobby such as Ruhama and other right wing feminist groups who are constantly rolling out disaffected former workers and waving them around like pawns in the wind. The same old mantra, look at what happens to you if you get involved with sex work.

    Most rational workers I know are well aware that, you get in, and then you get out. Make your money while you can and then get on with your life. They are rational and shrewd about what they are doing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.
    #BrazzersLifesMatter
    Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

    The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

    The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.


    I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)


    another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.
    Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

    Mod

    taxAHcruel has been posting civilly on thread here. You should be able to too. There is no need to stoop to personal attacks just because you disagree with their views. Attack the post, not the poster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)


    another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby

    I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

    I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

    All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Any pics of the OP?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    paw patrol wrote: »
    although we are on the same side of the argument on this thread , i don't agree that an adult child's choice are a reflection of your parenting.
    You can't be accountable for another's choices even if they are your child - once they become an adult.

    My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future. He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    Citations needed.



    Perhaps what is "weird" is assuming that they see their work any different to anyone else? Most of us seem to want to continue to do the work that we do during the pandemic.

    I do not see a sex worker wanting to keep working as being any more or less weird than a masseuse doing so - or a hair dresser - or a bar man - or anyone else.

    Stupid comparison, beyond stupid. Why would a woman have sex with multiple men every day in a pandemic? She's almost guaranteed to get infected.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

    I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

    All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

    I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.

    Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

    It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

    I have never met many women all that into pornography, even homosexual women. Whereas men of all persuasions are invariably goggle eyed over it.

    I am not saying they don't appreciate it, or even use pornography. But many women that I have know are not into it at all. Nothing to the same prolificacy as your average male.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

    It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

    What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

    What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

    I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

    All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.
    It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.

    Some articles I've seen say women are more likely to search for the extreme stuff on Pornhub.


  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future.

    Not one post I have made indictate or claim any such thing. Do you just strawman when you can not rebut things I say - or do you just do it for the sake of things? Or do you just imagine that if peoples concerns for the future are not identical to yours - that they must have no concerns?
    Pigsaw wrote: »
    He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.

    Also not what I said. What I actually said was that any problems I do - or do not - have with it would be irrelevant if it was _her_ choice and she was happy with her choices. Because her happiness is what is valuable to me - not her conforming to my views of what she should or should not do with her life.
    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Stupid comparison, beyond stupid. Why would a woman have sex with multiple sex every day in a pandemic? She's almost guaranteed to get infected.

    So are people who work in nursing homes it seems. Yet they went to work anyway.

    So shouting "stupid" at something does not magically make it stupid. In fact I think shouting "stupid" at things just means you have nothing to actually say.

    But stupid or not - that does not change the answer. Many people want to work. They want to continue to work even during a pandemic. Whatever their work may be. You might think it "stupid" - but whether it is or not - it still is what it is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

    What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?


    Pretty much.

    Most women i know find pornography revolting. They prefer moaning about unrequited crushes or the fact that they can't get the spends together for a pair of shoes they fancy.

    Women tend to not stay awake at night surfing the web looking for mickey. It is different for women who want sex, in fact a lot different.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Some articles I've seen say women are more likely to search for the extreme stuff on Pornhub.

    Elaborate on extreme stuff please?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    So are people who work in nursing homes it seems. Yet they went to work anyway.

    So shouting "stupid" at something does not magically make it stupid. In fact I think shouting "stupid" at things just means you have nothing to actually say.

    But stupid or not - that does not change the answer. Many people want to work. They want to continue to work even during a pandemic. Whatever their work may be. You might think it "stupid" - but whether it is or not - it still is what it is.

    Now you're comparing nursing home staff with prostitutes? You realise their job is to look after elderly people? That they take every precaution to avoid spreading the infection? Also they can quit any time they want?

    You can't see how having sex with multiple strangers everyday during a pandemic would be a bad idea? In fact it would be so monumentally stupid that you would only do it if you were forced to do it or had a drug habit to pay for?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Pretty much.

    Most women i know find pornography revolting. They prefer moaning about unrequited crushes or the fact that they can't get the spends together for a pair of shoes they fancy.

    Women tend to not stay awake at night surfing the web looking for mickey. It is different for women who want sex, in fact a lot different.

    I guess the women you know are aged 60+

    You think women who've grown up with the internet aren't watching porn? Why? Why wouldn't they watch porn when they get horny?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Elaborate on extreme stuff please?

    Use your imagination.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Use your imagination.
    Your imagination? Shur how would you do that if your mind has been destroyed after all that extreme porn. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Use your imagination.

    I would prefer if you did, just a little.

    Bye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,015 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Use your imagination.

    !!! Imagination, there be monsters.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    Now you're comparing nursing home staff with prostitutes?

    You are back to claiming I said things I never did again it seems. Though I see you have now simply dropped some of those and moved on quietly.

    I am not comparing anyone to anyone. I am saying that many people - regardless of their career - want to continue to work even when you personally might not.
    Pigsaw wrote: »
    You can't see how having sex with multiple strangers everyday during a pandemic would be a bad idea?

    Irrelevant. Your statement was that it was "weird" that they would want to keep working. I have offered an example of a reason why they might do so. I never said the example was a good idea. I never said it was a bad idea. I just say that it is one possible reason why it is not all that "weird" at all.
    Pigsaw wrote: »
    In fact it would be so monumentally stupid that you would only do it if you were forced to do it or had a drug habit to pay for?

    So not content with putting words and ideas and things in my mouth that I never said - you are now pretending to know their motivations too? I suggested another possible motive. Only one of us is pretending ours is the correct one or "only" one however.

    There is actually only one set of people who can tell us why sex workers choose to keep working during a pandemic. The sex workers. No one should take my guesses seriously and they certainly shouldn't yours. We are both just guessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,958 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...

    The world weeps for what could have been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭TheDenialTwist


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

    It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

    I have never met many women all that into pornography, even homosexual women. Whereas men of all persuasions are invariably goggle eyed over it.

    I am not saying they don't appreciate it, or even use pornography. But many women that I have know are not into it at all. Nothing to the same prolificacy as your average male.

    "far more common (for women) to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel". Really? What era are you living in? Or more importantly what era are these females you speak of living in?

    I presume the post is a joke? Or you've been misinformed by these women perhaps.

    As a female, with an extremely healthy sex drive. If I'm single or my partner has gone away or my rabbit has run out of batteries, what is a girl to do? Well according to your post... I guess I'll just order a romantic novel tonight and wait a week for it to arrive and delay gratification until then? As opposed to just putting on some porn. Great logic there. Makes absolute sense :confused:

    I don't know what kind of females you're interacting with, at home "fingering" the pages of their romantic novels eagerly anticipating when the climax to the story will "come". Maybe page 69 :pac:

    I certainly won't be ordering an "erotic novel" ever :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭TheDenialTwist


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

    What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?

    100% this


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    "far more common (for women) to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel". Really? What era are you living in? Or more importantly what era are these females you speak of living in?

    I presume the post is a joke? Or you've been misinformed by these women perhaps.

    As a female, with an extremely healthy sex drive. If I'm single or my partner has gone away or my rabbit has run out of batteries, what is a girl to do? Well according to your post... I guess I'll just order a romantic novel tonight and wait a week for it to arrive and delay gratification until then? As opposed to just putting on some porn. Great logic there. Makes absolute sense :confused:

    I don't know what kind of females you're interacting with, at home "fingering" the pages of their romantic novels eagerly anticipating when the climax to the story will "come". Maybe page 69 :pac:

    I certainly won't be ordering an "erotic novel" ever :D

    I am pleased for you.

    Knock yourself out.

    What is your favourite type of porn?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...


    If this is addressed to me, then I'd like to suggest that my views are in fact quite modern and liberal.

    It's my understanding that this Onlyfans things is a way for men to pay for mostly nude photographs of attractive women. That it's mostly softcore or erotic content. I'm relatively ok with that - it's a bit like lads buying Juggs or Hooters magazine in the 80's. The women are also well paid.

    What's rather more depressing is the proliferation of free hardcore porn on the internet. Jon Ronson had a wonderful podcast last year called the Butterfly Effect that touched on many of the negative aspects of hardcore porn and those tube sites - young men sitting at home masturbating while having no real human contact, vulnerable young women arriving in LA and being fired back out a few months later with a drug addiction and a prolapsed anus, directors speaking about having to produce every more extreme and violent content to satisfy the needs of their fans, sociopathic directors and 'male talent' who actually love abusing women on screen.

    Grim, depressing, and symptomatic of some sort of wider malaise in society.


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