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IAMAMORON

lucalux wrote: »

You might tell them then, if they're doing it right, their photos and videos are already circulating online.
Pedantic maybe, but I would call it naive to think that they can think it's going to stay where they want it to.

Content moderators on mainstream social media platforms would intervene in such a circumstance.

You either have an issue with people seeing naked images of you or you don't. There is rarely a grey area here, especially when you get down to the brass tacks of what is going on.

Anyone who comes into possession of images of loved ones, or friends who are publishing them, need to ask themselves the fresh question of how or why they came to access them? For example a parent using pornography is a hypocrite if they object to their children facilitating it. All porn stars are someone's sons' or daughters'.

seamus

Hqrry113 wrote: »

What women don't seem to understand is men will hype them up and enjoy what they're doing but woulf never want their mother/sister/girlfriend to do any of that kind of stuff, that should tell women something.

That some people are massive hypocrites?

What I mean is; Why wouldn't men want their female family members doing that, but they're happy to watch other women do it?

If it's because they believe it's degrading, then why are they OK with looking at it?

If they believe the industry is exploitative, then why do they support it?

If it's because they're worried what other people will think of them, then they need to grow a pair.

If the woman enjoys the work, then what does it matter what anyone thinks?

lucalux

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Content moderators on mainstream social media platforms would intervene in such a circumstance.

You either have an issue with people seeing naked images of you or you don't. There is rarely a grey area here, especially when you get down to the brass tacks of what is going on.

Anyone who comes into possession of images of loved ones, or friends who are publishing them, need to ask themselves the fresh question of how or why they came to access them? For example a parent using pornography is a hypocrite if they object to their children facilitating it. All porn stars are someone's sons' or daughters'.

There's a lot of grey areas in it I think.
I'm saying that people have the choice to put things up online, and to use OnlyFans etc, that's grand - no problem with me, none at all.

But, some are comfortable having certain people (that they control) seeing those pics/videos, and they wouldn't extend that to their parents/brothers/bosses/neighbours.

It happens though. Regardless of how it's found, if it's seen - it's seen.

Hypocrisy, sure, but would many of these girls(usually) be happy with their Dad seeing them on Pornhub or any of the other porn hosting sites that pop up with alarming regularity, by accident or no?
Lots of people watch porn, including parents. Do these parents want to see their daughters/sons and also know that the content is online forever?
Cos that is the reality of it.

I don't honestly think a lot of the people who are using OnlyFans are aware of the longer term effects of their actions. That's the issue to me.

Also, it's not just websites hosting, one lad might sign up for an OF account but then shares it in a Whatsapp group for his friends, so the encrypted nature of Whatsapp allows the reproduction of these images/videos by private individuals indefinitely.

I just think it's naive to think it's going to be a finite thing, or something you have control over.
You do it for a while and realise it's not for you? - ok well it's online forever, sorry about that

stefanovich

iamstop wrote: »

Selling content on OnlyFans is far less prostituting than actual p0rn material. The models can chose exactly what to post and not get coaxed into doing things they are not comfortable with.

I know of at least two girls in the city I live in that are on OF. It's really not as big a deal as people like to think.

Being offered money to perform sex acts is not coaxing?

I am all for freedom on the internet but onlyfans is a symptom of a dysfunctional society.

iamstop

lucalux wrote: »

Can I ask, and maybe you could ask them... Would they post the stuff they post on OF publicly, on their FB or Instagram?
If not, why not, do you think?

They both advertise the OF on these platforms. They don't post the exclusive OF content on other platforms because they rely on OF for money. Also, I would imagine the content goes against what is allowed on Insta and FB so...what was your point?

Mister Vain

lucalux wrote: »

Can I ask, and maybe you could ask them... Would they post the stuff they post on OF publicly, on their FB or Instagram?
If not, why not, do you think?

Well yes. Maybe not so much on facebook, but a lot of them would post it on Instagram, assuming its censored and its not taken down. That's how they drive traffic to their OF accounts.

lucalux

iamstop wrote: »

They both advertise the OF on these platforms. They don't post the exclusive OF content on other platforms because they rely on OF for money. Also, I would imagine the content goes against what is allowed on Insta and FB so...what was your point?

My point is just that it can be taken from those places and posted elsewhere, when that happens they don't make money from it, or control it

juice1304

lucalux wrote: »

Haha no, not for kids... now if only kids were as good as to know what's for them or not.

Kids find porn (intentionally or accidentally) every single day on the internet. It's not their fault, it's usually the parent/guardian's lack of foresight, and oversight.

The fact that they shouldn't find it? Makes no odds. They will.

Why would a kid pay for porn on onlyfans when they can just go to pornhub or any other free site. They would need a credit card.:rolleyes:

lucalux

juice1304 wrote: »

Why would a kid pay for porn on onlyfans when they can just go to pornhub or any other free site. They would need a credit card.:rolleyes:

I didn't say anything about kids paying for porn.

Have you never heard of onlyfans content being reposted to porn sites? That's what I was referring to

lucalux

Mister Vain wrote: »

Well yes. Maybe not so much on facebook, but a lot of them would post it on Instagram, assuming its censored and its not taken down. That's how they drive traffic to their OF accounts.

Yeah I figured that, a lot of people will use social media to promote themselves and drive traffic, but a lot want to remain anonymous.
All it takes is one face reveal for all their content to be linked to their face. It's just a concern if privacy is something that is important to them.

I'm not judging it at all, but I do think there are a lot of people who think they can keep it secret, and they might not be able to, that's all

Mister Vain

lucalux wrote: »

Yeah I figured that, a lot of people will use social media to promote themselves and drive traffic, but a lot want to remain anonymous.
All it takes is one face reveal for all their content to be linked to their face. It's just a concern if privacy is something that is important to them.

I'm not judging it at all, but I do think there are a lot of people who think they can keep it secret, and they might not be able to, that's all

I think most aren't really that bothered, especially if they post raunchy and nude stuff online anyway.

iamstop

lucalux wrote: »

Yeah I figured that, a lot of people will use social media to promote themselves and drive traffic, but a lot want to remain anonymous.
All it takes is one face reveal for all their content to be linked to their face. It's just a concern if privacy is something that is important to them.

I'm not judging it at all, but I do think there are a lot of people who think they can keep it secret, and they might not be able to, that's all

That's for those people to worry about. Not you.

lucalux

iamstop wrote: »

That's for those people to worry about. Not you.

Ok, the thread is about opinions. I'm just giving mine. Why the hostility?

IAMAMORON

lucalux wrote: »

I didn't say anything about kids paying for porn.

Have you never heard of onlyfans content being reposted to porn sites? That's what I was referring to

It is illegal to post images on porn sites without the authorisation of the website.

All recognised porn sites are proper business, they risk legal action it they take the piss. It is far easier to remove any images or vids upon request. They also vet uploads as they arrive, they have to for obvious reasons.

In fairness there is such a glut of pornography and so many different preferences out there. It is highly unlikely that you would come across ( oops sorry ) any content where you might recognise the participants.

iamstop

lucalux wrote: »

Ok, the thread is about opinions. I'm just giving mine. Why the hostility?

Sorry, not trying to be hostile but I see it like someone being anti gay or something. It really does not affect you one way in the slightest if some one is gay or does content for an OF. Or does gay content for an OF so getting your knickers in a twist is really not going to change anything.
You can chose to consume OF content or chose not to. It's still going to happen and the world will still go on despite it.

iamstop

iamstop wrote: »

Sorry, not trying to be hostile but I see it like someone being anti gay or something. It really does not affect you one way in the slightest if some one is gay or does content for an OF. Or does gay content for an OF so getting your knickers in a twist is really not going to change anything.
You can chose to consume OF content or chose not to. It's still going to happen and the world will still go on despite it.

But like, if he/she has daughters for instance, the proliferation of this sort of thing now, and the knock on societal consequences going forward do kind of affect him/her..

Whatever about it existing, I find people here defending it almost more worrying really..

stefanovich

juice1304 wrote: »

Why would a kid pay for porn on onlyfans when they can just go to pornhub or any other free site. They would need a credit card.:rolleyes:

To simulate having a relationship with a woman because they are lonely.

HotDudeLife

stefanovich wrote: »

To simulate having a relationship with a woman because they are lonely.

That's pretty pathetic, they should just improve their life and that problem would take care of itself.


A lad i know has had a few tumbles in the sheets with some chicks that was posted on their OF accounts, all have a decent following on OF, not one of them ever paid him for the content, talk about gender pay gap.

iamstop

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, if he/she has daughters for instance, the proliferation of this sort of thing now, and the knock on societal consequences going forward do kind of affect him/her..

Whatever about it existing, I find people here defending it almost more worrying really..

If the daughter (or son) is of age and sound mind, it's not up to him/her. There is way worse thing one could be doing to earn money.

AndrewJRenko

Hqrry113 wrote: »

There'll be a serious amount of GILF photos floating around in schools soon that's for sure, imagine being in school as a kid and people in school passing around photos of gra

Gra-nny?

Again, so what? There's a good chance that kids today are far less hung up on sex and nudity than you are.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

They don't have to do it though, some might have to, but I'd say they are a minority.

It's their business/body at the end of the day but you can be sure many are being naïve about it and most probably will have any amount of regrets about it (I doubt for most it won't be a career) further down the line. Life really isn't that black and white.

How can you be sure about that? Have you spoken to many of them, or are you just projecting your own values onto other people?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Out of respect to friends or relations who may not appreciate seeing images of them naked.

If they don't want to see naked images, then they shouldn't be browsing OF. Problem solved.

AndrewJRenko

lucalux wrote: »

The likelihood it will be found is bigger. Therefore any negative consequences are magnified by scale.

Actually, I'd say the reverse is true - there's so much of this stuff out there that it will be impossible to find anything in the future - needle in the haystack, hidden in pain sight.

Try to find that stuff you posted on your Bebo page in the early naughties and see how you get on.

Potential-Monke

For the people against OF, would you visit a nude beach and partake?

People need to get with the times. Being nude and perform self sexual gratification is no longer banned to bedroom activities between a couple only. A lot of people would have no issue with showing off their 'intimate' bits. And it's a great time for those who get paid to do it. It's most likely stuff they do anyway in their own private time, why not get paid for it?

I've been looking at all types of porn since the 90's, waiting 20 minutes for a picture to load on dial up (only to be cut off just above the nipple because someone rang and have to start again!). I'm pretty sure I've seen the vast majority of porn easily available. I enjoy looking at pictures, especially nude selfies (I much prefer 'real' to scripted). In the thousands, if not into the millions, of pictures and videos I've seen, I've yet to recognize anyone I know. And even if I did, it would be a great conversation to have with them (I don't know why, but women tell me intimate stuff but won't engage in intimate stuff with me...). I've had women tell me things they probably haven't told their significant others, because I'm honest about it and it's just something else to talk about.

We're slowly getting out of the old fashioned way of hide everything and only show it to your husband kind of way. And that's a good thing. We should be talking about sex, intimacy, how to do certain acts, etc. It benefits both sexes (and their variations if you're into that). If we were more open about talking about it, it would probably lead to better and safer sex for all involved. But some still have this catholic view on sex.

Anyway, how much is it? I might sign up for a month just to see what it's about. I had a sub to Suicide Girls before (it's not literal, it's the name given to the site that shows tattooed women who get nekkid). I only had it for the month, and I can see why some people would continue to pay it. Quality, choice, etc. Everyone has their own favourites and kinks, and there are sites for all of it.

I'll be honest, if I thought people would pay to watch a slightly overweight bearded ginger lad from Ireland whack one off on camera, I'd do it. If anyone saw it and said it to me, I'd offer a private show if they wanted to pay. And so what if they do. Granted, my parents and older relatives would probably be disgusted, but they're old fashioned Ireland. My siblings would question me about it, but if it was earning money they wouldn't be long shutting up, and then progress onto taking the mickey (pun intended).

Would it matter if my sister did it? Nah. She's her own woman and I'm not one to judge. I don't have any daughters, so I can't comment on if that would upset me. Probably not if she was honest about it, I'd probably be more upset that she thinks she would have to hide it from me, but I'll never know.

Xtrail14

Potential-Monke wrote: »

For the people against OF, would you visit a nude beach and partake?

People need to get with the times. Being nude and perform self sexual gratification is no longer banned to bedroom activities between a couple only. A lot of people would have no issue with showing off their 'intimate' bits. And it's a great time for those who get paid to do it. It's most likely stuff they do anyway in their own private time, why not get paid for it?

I've been looking at all types of porn since the 90's, waiting 20 minutes for a picture to load on dial up (only to be cut off just above the nipple because someone rang and have to start again!). I'm pretty sure I've seen the vast majority of porn easily available. I enjoy looking at pictures, especially nude selfies (I much prefer 'real' to scripted). In the thousands, if not into the millions, of pictures and videos I've seen, I've yet to recognize anyone I know. And even if I did, it would be a great conversation to have with them (I don't know why, but women tell me intimate stuff but won't engage in intimate stuff with me...). I've had women tell me things they probably haven't told their significant others, because I'm honest about it and it's just something else to talk about.

We're slowly getting out of the old fashioned way of hide everything and only show it to your husband kind of way. And that's a good thing. We should be talking about sex, intimacy, how to do certain acts, etc. It benefits both sexes (and their variations if you're into that). If we were more open about talking about it, it would probably lead to better and safer sex for all involved. But some still have this catholic view on sex.

Anyway, how much is it? I might sign up for a month just to see what it's about. I had a sub to Suicide Girls before (it's not literal, it's the name given to the site that shows tattooed women who get nekkid). I only had it for the month, and I can see why some people would continue to pay it. Quality, choice, etc. Everyone has their own favourites and kinks, and there are sites for all of it.

I'll be honest, if I thought people would pay to watch a slightly overweight bearded ginger lad from Ireland whack one off on camera, I'd do it. If anyone saw it and said it to me, I'd offer a private show if they wanted to pay. And so what if they do. Granted, my parents and older relatives would probably be disgusted, but they're old fashioned Ireland. My siblings would question me about it, but if it was earning money they wouldn't be long shutting up, and then progress onto taking the mickey (pun intended).

Would it matter if my sister did it? Nah. She's her own woman and I'm not one to judge. I don't have any daughters, so I can't comment on if that would upset me. Probably not if she was honest about it, I'd probably be more upset that she thinks she would have to hide it from me, but I'll never know.

Agree

Potential-Monke

Checked out the site. You've to subscribe to each individual person at x cost. Feck that! Can't even search (on mobile), what's the point?! Back to Google Images with me!

BalcombeSt4

Bubblesxoxx wrote: »

I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

I 100% agree with your overall point, but I don't think it's just a Irish problem. Lots of American conservatives & even a good few liberals would have similar world view.

If you are happy, making decent money, enjoying yourself & are proud of what your occupation is, well then more power to ya, fuuckk what anybody else thinks. People who are against you are probably jealous, & ones who think you are "easy" are likely not getting laid much.

Potential-Monke

Didn't mean to infer it was just an Irish problem, just we're mainly talking about Irish people doing it.

Would those conservatives and liberals be religious per chance?

sbsquarepants

lucalux wrote: »

Yeah I figured that, a lot of people will use social media to promote themselves and drive traffic, but a lot want to remain anonymous.
All it takes is one face reveal for all their content to be linked to their face. It's just a concern if privacy is something that is important to them.

I'm not judging it at all, but I do think there are a lot of people who think they can keep it secret, and they might not be able to, that's all

It's not rocket science - if you have a problem with people seeing you naked, don't post naked pictures of yourself on the god damn internet. It's not like it's unavoidable!


Porn / cam girl work is for exhibitionists, not for people who want to remain anonymous. If you really want to keep your self under wraps, there are plenty of other jobs that don't require being naked on screen!

stefanovich

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Nykay

Bubblesxoxx wrote: »

easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free

And the man that she's having sex with is also doing for free, yeah? The difference is she's doing it behind closed doors for her own gratification. And who's to say she's not getting something else in return for it.

Mister Vain

Imagine being your own boss and getting paid to ****.