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I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

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Pigsaw

Mister Vain wrote: »

It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.

Some articles I've seen say women are more likely to search for the extreme stuff on Pornhub.

Mister Vain

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.

Pigsaw

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?

IAMAMORON

Pigsaw wrote: »

I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.

Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

I have never met many women all that into pornography, even homosexual women. Whereas men of all persuasions are invariably goggle eyed over it.

I am not saying they don't appreciate it, or even use pornography. But many women that I have know are not into it at all. Nothing to the same prolificacy as your average male.

Pigsaw

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Citations needed.

Perhaps what is "weird" is assuming that they see their work any different to anyone else? Most of us seem to want to continue to do the work that we do during the pandemic.

I do not see a sex worker wanting to keep working as being any more or less weird than a masseuse doing so - or a hair dresser - or a bar man - or anyone else.

Stupid comparison, beyond stupid. Why would a woman have sex with multiple men every day in a pandemic? She's almost guaranteed to get infected.

Pigsaw

paw patrol wrote: »

although we are on the same side of the argument on this thread , i don't agree that an adult child's choice are a reflection of your parenting.
You can't be accountable for another's choices even if they are your child - once they become an adult.

My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future. He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.

sonofenoch

Any pics of the OP?

JohnnyFlash

paw patrol wrote: »

I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)

another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

Ted_YNWA

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

Mod

taxAHcruel has been posting civilly on thread here. You should be able to too. There is no need to stoop to personal attacks just because you disagree with their views. Attack the post, not the poster.

paw patrol

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.

I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)

another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby

JohnnyFlash

Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.

IAMAMORON

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

HotDudeLife wrote: »

#BrazzersLifesMatter

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

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IAMAMORON

It never ceases to amaze me how the biggest critics of sex workers and/or anyone connected to the pornographic industry are actually people who never facilitate it. Like what do they know?

I have discussed sex work with many people ( men and women ) who have worked in the industry first hand. A majority of them just see it as a job. They would all agree that it toughens the soul a little and some of them have developed very strict social benchmarks as a result. But all of them are rational normal human beings.

It is the anti prostitution lobby such as Ruhama and other right wing feminist groups who are constantly rolling out disaffected former workers and waving them around like pawns in the wind. The same old mantra, look at what happens to you if you get involved with sex work.

Most rational workers I know are well aware that, you get in, and then you get out. Make your money while you can and then get on with your life. They are rational and shrewd about what they are doing.

[Deleted User]

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

I have never expressed that position anywhere no. Straw man much ?

I actually take it as a compliment on the strength of my position that the best you can do against it is ignore it entirely - and attack a completely unrelated tangent that has nothing to do with me other than you signing my name to it.

[Deleted User]

Feisar wrote: »

And point taken, especially as regards a documentary having a slant. However I'm not wrong in terms of the types of upbringings most sex workers would have had.

I do not know without actual figures rather than opinions.

But even then I wonder how much of it is "self selecting". We often push sex work into the black market by making it taboo or illegal. By doing this we select for particular people.

But sex work as a whole is too diverse to make sweeping comments. Especially if we are commenting on all porn as well. There is simply too much diversity there.

Remember even without the incentive of money many men and women do things like porn for _free_ solely because they actually want to do it and enjoy it. There are whole sites (Newbie nudes is the only one I know by name - only because it is the first one I ever encountered so the name stuck - but there are many many more) dedicated to people making porn for all to see - for absolutely no financial incentive at all. Many of them do it because they want to do it. Which makes the narrative of people doing it for money only doing so out of desperation a little harder to swallow whole. Many people in porn would probably make the porn even if they were not being paid for it.

RedDeadRedemption is a you tuber who was a sex worker. She has a video on why she quit sex work. She identified problems in the industry that drove her away in the end. But she was clear that she did the work too because she enjoyed it and had a lot of fun doing it. She sees it as a good industry with bad things that need fixing. But many industries and services can be described that way can they not? The article I linked to before from the "top paid" irish sex worker too - she was clear it was her choice and she was happy with it.

The best we can do as a society is ensure that people do not get into sex work for the wrong reasons. And to best support people who want out of it. But I would say that about any work. I do not see getting into sex work as a tradgedy. I see spending your life doing work you want to get out of - or never wanted to get into - as a tradgedy. So an ideal for me is a society where people can change career path as easily as possible. I support anything that promotes that ideal.

But I do not think we get there if we make too many assumptions about the people - or their backgrounds - who get into any particular work. They are as diverse as the people in any other industry. The Army always springs to mind as an example there. Many people like to think of marines as meat heads who couldnt make it anywhere else for example. Many in fact likely are. But an hour listening to Jokko Willink would divest them of that generalised assumption. He is more educated and intelligent and articulate that most posters on this forum myself included. So are many sex workers and porn stars. So are some people in McDonalds or cleaning toilets.

[Deleted User]

Pigsaw wrote: »

Most of them are.

Citations needed.

Pigsaw wrote: »

Plenty of prostitutes available on escorts Ireland right now. Weird how they're still choosing to whore during a pandemic?

Perhaps what is "weird" is assuming that they see their work any different to anyone else? Most of us seem to want to continue to do the work that we do during the pandemic.

I do not see a sex worker wanting to keep working as being any more or less weird than a masseuse doing so - or a hair dresser - or a bar man - or anyone else.

paw patrol

Pigsaw wrote: »

If your child ends up as prostitute then you've failed massively as a parent.

although we are on the same side of the argument on this thread , i don't agree that an adult child's choice are a reflection of your parenting.
You can't be accountable for another's choices even if they are your child - once they become an adult.

B.A._Baracus

There's a term called "mark"
- In professional wrestling it was a derogatory term, used by those within the business, to describe fans. Ie, fans who thought it was real = Marks. The term in wrestling is still around but has since been expanded upon.
- In magic and con-artists, it's defined as a "subject for a con game"
- It originated in Carnival games (a slang) in America over 100+ years ago.

So with that said, if you pay anyone on OnlyFans or cam girls or anything like that. You are a mark.

[Deleted User]

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

In fairness to Tax, I think his posts on this topic have been quite reasonable and not an entirely unhealthy attitude to have.

And this is coming from me, who has been painted as some alt right monster by some of the usual suspects around here so I don't see how you took that from what was said. I haven't read the whole thread so maybe i missed something.

Feisar

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

By the sounds of it he's doing everything he can to raise a child the best way he can.
What's feminine about his POV?

BorneTobyWilde

Meilani Full Soloist wrote: »

There's not a hope the irish girl is making 20k a month

It's like a tax in a way, 2500 Subs paying a lousy 10$ a month. Not at if two guys are giving her 10 grand each.
It's a numbers game. The girl in the corner shop is selling to the people on the corner.

The girl with the OF account is selling to a world wide audience of 8 Billion, from Australia, to Alaska, The Congo to Paris, that's the draw

HotDudeLife

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

HotDudeLife

spook_cook wrote: »

Unless they're shipping all their money to some e-girl

But you are onto something, we're what about a decade away from realistic sex bots and VR and all that jazz? Then the simp eco-system could move away from funding online women. What will they do then?

The government might be forced to bail out e-girls.

#BrazzersLifesMatter

HotDudeLife

Deleted User wrote: »

That's fine. You do you! Notice how I am not judging your standards or saying you are wrong or throwing our empty "get real man" statements that add nothing?

Clearly we have different metrics by which we judge our role as a parent. And that is fine.

Again my metric is simple. I want my children to be happy with _their_ choices for _their_ lives. If they do that - then what I would personally "rather" could not be less relevant to me.

All I can do as a parent is give them the best education and other tools to achieve that. And I think I train and educate my kids rather well - especially if I allow myself to compare to other parents I see who - many of them - do bugger all aside from ensuring they get to school each day.

My daughter is barely 10 and she has a high standard in martial arts - dance - can fire guns - can do all kinds of electric work and car repair - helps me in home farming - plays music - writes - helps with charity work - has a good circle of friends - meditates - does science with me as a hobby - and much more.

If she gets to 18 and chooses sex work then I have little doubt based on her current development that she will do so for the right reasons and of her own volition and for her own happiness.

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

Hah. Maybe she is I know next to nothing about her except the work she now does. And I only know that because I recently decided to browse around twitch for a few hours for the first time

My point was that whether she is a wonderful person or an absolutely horrible person - she is certainly articulate and functional and successful which was a contrast to the point of the user I was replying to.

And point taken, especially as regards a documentary having a slant. However I'm not wrong in terms of the types of upbringings most sex workers would have had.

Pigsaw

seamus wrote: »

The problem is that you're presuming all women who choose sex work do so out of extreme desperation and that all sex work is violent encounters with disrespectful scumbags.

Most of them are. Plenty of prostitutes available on escorts Ireland right now. Weird how they're still choosing to whore during a pandemic?

[Deleted User]

Pigsaw wrote: »

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.

Sounds almost like mind control to me. Not my bag to be honest. Whatever I do think my role as a parent might be or not be - the idea that I could stop them "considering" anything in the privacy of their own free mind is pretty out there.

Our kids are going to think about - and consider - all kinds of things we might not like. The best we can do is ensure they have the best possible software running on their neck-top computers to run when considering anything in their life.

I am not there to mould or forge my child's life for them. They have to do that for themselves and I have to accept their choices are going to be their choices. All I can do as a parent is ensure they are as capable as possible when making such decisions. And I will judge my success as a parent in how well I achieve that. Not in what _their_ choices ultimately turn out to be.

All I want is for them to be happy. I would prefer my child be happy having sex with 200 people a year then to be the worlds top neuro-surgeon and to be absolutely miserable in it. I care that they are happy. With few exceptions I do not care about the _how_ they get there.

seamus

Pigsaw wrote: »

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.

The problem is that you're presuming all women who choose sex work do so out of extreme desperation and that all sex work is violent encounters with disrespectful scumbags.

This is largely the basis of the lobby that seeks to criminalise sex work, and ironically exactly the attitude that causes sex work to be a dangerous and taboo profession.

Pigsaw

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.