Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

Thelonious Monk · 19-10-2020 3:05pm

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1318199839881121792

Oh well, no more gyms I'm afraid

pinkypinky · 19-10-2020 3:21pm

And 20 mins later:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-restrictions-government-prepares-move-to-level-5-for-six-weeks-1.4384986

19-10-2020 3:24pm

A grace period will result in mayhem in retail over the coming days.......... and after a 6 week lockdown reopening in December will have folk queueing for hours in December weather............. fooking mental.

And the bag of cans folk shall carry on house partying etc for the duration

completedit · 19-10-2020 3:51pm

matrim wrote: »

I can definitely see complacency in the queue waiting to get into the gym. People are standing closer than they used to.

The overall gym experience is somewhat nicer since Covid. You feel far more clean at the end of a workout and that adds to the experience/feel good feeling.

However, covid lingers in the air, cleaning down equipment is just good etiquette/a new token gesture to show you're considerate; it's not gonna stop you getting covid

rainagain · 19-10-2020 3:54pm

Petition to keep gyms open, I don't have much hope though...

"We are calling on the Irish Government to deem gyms as an essential service for the mental and physical wellbeing of the population of this country. "

http://chng.it/VyZ24hxqyX

Alf Veedersane · 19-10-2020 3:58pm

A few days of maxing out in the gym with the grace period.

Thelonious Monk · 19-10-2020 5:59pm

I went for my first sh*tty weather jog this evening. Went to Westwood at lunch but I forgot my shorts and went onto the floor to do some weights, in my jeans, and then felt like such a twat that I left! It was actually really busy today, it must be because everyone knows it's over for a while.
Anyway a jog in the sh*tty weather is fine, I wore a raincoat, was kind of nice in a way.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-10-2020 6:02pm

rainagain wrote: »

Petition to keep gyms open, I don't have much hope though...

"We are calling on the Irish Government to deem gyms as an essential service for the mental and physical wellbeing of the population of this country. "

http://chng.it/VyZ24hxqyX

Signed, no hope though.

el Fenomeno · 19-10-2020 8:37pm

So we have 2 days of the gym left before they close.

Fúck it. I'm going 200% of my PB tomorrow.

Then another 200% the day after.

matrim · 19-10-2020 8:39pm

el Fenomeno wrote: »

So we have 2 days of the gym left before they close.

Fúck it. I'm going 200% of my PB tomorrow.

Then another 200% the day after.

Hopefully the physio stays open because we’ll all need it after injuring ourselves trying to do 6 weeks worth of work in 2 days

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-10-2020 8:40pm

Just out of the gym. All doom and gloom in there again. Feel sorry for the staff who give 110% and love their job. Felt cheeky and asked could I “borrow” and Olympic bar for a few weeks, sadly not. Back to donedeal to see the shítehawks exploiting the situation now.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-10-2020 8:40pm

matrim wrote: »

Hopefully the physio stays open because we’ll all need it after injuring ourselves trying to do 6 weeks worth of work in 2 days

Felt that twinge in my back I haven’t felt in well over a year tonight, safe to say everyone will be pushing EXTRA hard in the last two sessions Tuesday and Wednesday.

matrim · 19-10-2020 8:42pm

I bought one of those York adjustable barbell / dumbell sets 2 weeks ago when they mooted the lockdown and it arrived last Tuesday. Glad I did now as I have something to work with.

19-10-2020 8:43pm

Gonna order a barbell
And go all out in the gym tomorrow
Fukkit

Neeson · 19-10-2020 8:57pm

Closing Tuesday night? Leo said we are going into lockdown Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.

19-10-2020 9:05pm

Neeson wrote: »

Closing Tuesday night? Leo said we are going into lockdown Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.

midnight wednesday so id read that we have weds also

Neeson · 19-10-2020 9:19pm

bluewolf wrote: »

midnight wednesday so id read that we have weds also

That’s correct. Leo just clarified it now. Eejit.

calfmuscle · 19-10-2020 9:59pm

The Davestator wrote: »

Ireland Active sit at the table with sport ireland,FAI, GAA, Irfu and have been lobbying hard up to and including today.

I'd be surprised if they were kept open as all the Karens insist that they are sweaty breathing grounds (despite never been in a gym)

All the Karen's insist....... Do you want to leave your sexist arrogance out of it....

Alf Veedersane · 19-10-2020 10:00pm

Time for RPE 11

The Davestator · 20-10-2020 7:35am

calfmuscle wrote: »

All the Karen's insist....... Do you want to leave your sexist arrogance out of it....

Grow up and direct your anger elsewhere. Or at least try to contribute in some way to the discussion.

ongarite · 20-10-2020 7:42am

Happy and sad with the lockdown news this morning.

Glad to have 2 more sessions before doors are closed.

20-10-2020 7:47am

ongarite wrote: »

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Glad to have 2 more sessions before doors are closed.

I cancelled my session for this evening......... my heart wouldn't be in it, better to let someone else make something of it

calfmuscle · 20-10-2020 7:57am

The Davestator wrote: »

Grow up and direct your anger elsewhere. Or at least try to contribute in some way to the discussion.

Ah yes anyone who calls out sexist remarks is an angry woman... Great logic.

20-10-2020 8:09am

calfmuscle wrote: »

All the Karen's insist....... Do you want to leave your sexist arrogance out of it....

The Davestator wrote: »

Grow up and direct your anger elsewhere. Or at least try to contribute in some way to the discussion.

calfmuscle wrote: »

Ah yes anyone who calls out sexist remarks is an angry woman... Great logic.

The poster never suggested you were an angry woman.
If you think calling out sexist remarks is only something that ladies do then it looks like you are in fact quite sexist yourself

calfmuscle · 20-10-2020 8:20am

Augeo wrote: »

The poster never suggested you were an angry woman.
If you think calling out sexist remarks is only something that ladies do then it looks like you are in fact quite sexist yourself

Man calls a woman angry and you conclude the woman is sexist........ Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Ever wonder why so few women are active in the fitness forums?

rpurfield · 20-10-2020 8:29am

Augeo wrote: »

I cancelled my session for this evening......... my heart wouldn't be in it, better to let someone else make something of it

That was me last night, had a slot booked and as the leaks went on I lost more and more enthusiasm to go so I'll hold on till they open again. Back to using the BBQ gas cylinder as a weight now

20-10-2020 8:30am

calfmuscle wrote: »

Man calls a woman angry and you conclude the woman is sexist........ Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Ever wonder why so few women are active in the fitness forums?

You are missing the point, he mentioned you seemed angry. I didn't know who were a woman until you mentioned it. I presume the person commenting on your anger was the same. You calling out a comment that you allege was sexist did not let us all know you are a woman. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

rondog · 20-10-2020 8:40am

Really let down by Leo ,he was the voice of reason and now capitulated to doctor death Holohan who only wants to destroy the economy.

Now gym will be closed to the new year.We have no exit strategy and the Govt will keep gyms closed way into the new year.

We will open up again and therw will be more spikes and an endless cycle of lockdowns and open up which push businesses over the edge.

Such retard in Govt closing gyms down many will never open back up again.

20-10-2020 8:45am

Let's move on from the angry and sexist discussion and not get personal, please report any posts you have an issue with
Would appreciate if we could avoid the "Karen" **** here as well
cheers

Alf Veedersane · 20-10-2020 9:02am

rondog wrote: »

Really let down by Leo ,he was the voice of reason and now capitulated to doctor death Holohan who only wants to destroy the economy.

Now gym will be closed to the new year.We have no exit strategy and the Govt will keep gyms closed way into the new year.

We will open up again and therw will be more spikes and an endless cycle of lockdowns and open up which push businesses over the edge.

Such retard in Govt closing gyms down many will never open back up again.

To be fair, what do you want the Public Health Emergency team to advise on other than public health?

That is their role. To advise on the protection of public health.

The government take that advise and make decision based on all factors, including the economy.

20-10-2020 9:07am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

To be fair, what do you want the Public Health Emergency team to advise on other than public health?............

I'd expect them to be able to point out to government that the likes of gyms haven't been sources for covid transmission and that exercise is beneficial both mentally and physically so perhaps gyms could remain open as an essential business.

givyjoe · 20-10-2020 9:09am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

To be fair, what do you want the Public Health Emergency team to advise on other than public health?

That is their role. To advise on the protection of public health.

The government take that advise and make decision based on all factors, including the economy.

Not to get too far off topic, but there is an alarming lack of logic in their plans. Close now so we can have a 'normal' Christmas? Are they setting us up for a splurge of social contact over 4 weeks in December? If they do loosen everything up, i.e. open bars, restuarants and gyms etc again all at once, we're going to see an even bigger spike/problem than we have now and ultimately end up in the same place.. or worse. Then what.

20-10-2020 9:14am

givyjoe wrote: »

.................If they do loosen everything up, i.e. open bars, restuarants and gyms etc again all at once, we're going to see an even bigger spike/problem than we have now and ultimately end up in the same place.. or worse. Then what.

We will likely open up to level 3 ......... non essential retail will be open ......... maybe gyms also. I doubt we will see pubs open tbh.

jrosen · 20-10-2020 9:16am

givyjoe wrote: »

Not to get too far off topic, but there is an alarming lack of logic in their plans. Close now so we can have a 'normal' Christmas? Are they setting us up for a splurge of social contact over 4 weeks in December? If they do loosen everything up, i.e. open bars, restuarants and gyms etc again all at once, we're going to see an even bigger spike/problem than we have now and ultimately end up in the same place.. or worse. Then what.

Thats exactly what they are doing. Businesses especially those in hospitality have been saying for weeks they make roughly 1/3 of their annual income over the christmas period. Government also know people wont stay away from family at christmas. So its close now in hope to have low numbers at christmas time and then we will do this dance all over again late Jan into Feb.

Whats frustrating is there has been no focus placed on the importance of exercise, the importance of being healthy. This idea of closing the gyms, closing kids activities or making it impossible to attend is doing nothing but negatively impacting society.

20-10-2020 9:20am

jrosen wrote: »

Thats exactly what they are doing. Businesses especially those in hospitality have been saying for weeks they make roughly 1/3 of their annual income over the christmas period...........

Yes, but they won't be making that this Christmas as with social distancing etc they can't get enough bums on seats.

No reputable employer will be having a Christmas party in a restaurant/hotel/pub setting this year even if they were permitted to do so, so a huge amount of the revenue is already not going to happen. I'd presume hospitality businesses have realised that months ago.

Level 2 makes most restaurants barely operable financially, level 3 effectively closes them.

Sunrise_Sunset · 20-10-2020 9:40am

I did some walking lunges this morning and I've already lost my motivation. I really need to be in a gym setting.

Cill94 · 20-10-2020 9:46am

givyjoe wrote: »

Not to get too far off topic, but there is an alarming lack of logic in their plans. Close now so we can have a 'normal' Christmas? Are they setting us up for a splurge of social contact over 4 weeks in December? If they do loosen everything up, i.e. open bars, restuarants and gyms etc again all at once, we're going to see an even bigger spike/problem than we have now and ultimately end up in the same place.. or worse. Then what.

Their approach has always been illogical. Open and close, open and close, hoping that case numbers will somehow magically drop. All while keeping airports open and having an open border between us and Northern Ireland.

FlubberJones · 20-10-2020 9:52am

The gyms should of been left open, they add a huge amount of benefit both mentally and physically. This is a lockdown without intelligence, just ridiculous.
Pure unadulterated misery for people that use them frequently and rely on them for health and wellbeing.

Having my final gym session tomorrow and then back to the bl**dy resistance bands and youtube videos... b*ll*x

Black Sheep · 20-10-2020 10:13am

I agree it seems a bit bonkers that we do a lockdown now (Probably with lower compliance than the last one) basically explicitly in order to allow people to go bananas over Christmas. Then back into lockdown in January probably..

There'll be some fun if the numbers don't go down quickly enough to allow restrictions to be significantly relaxed.

I also think those pointing out that retail and hospitality in December are likely buggered no matter what happens are correct. No matter what happens hard to imagine all the Christmas shopping won't be done online, and there'll be no heaving pubs and Christmas parts in the restaurants.

I don't want to be tempt fate but I also will be really fascinated to see if this promised lag in fatalities and ICU admissions manifests. Case numbers are undoubtedly high, and hospital admissions have risen, but as far as I know as of now the ICU admissions and death rate is really quite low. If it stays like that despite high case numbers then I think a review will be in order.

All while keeping airports open and having an open border between us and Northern Ireland.

The border ... Yep... We're snookered with it.

If we were a single state, or even if we were able to coordinate and take an all-Ireland approach, then we could potentially make use of a "zero covid island" approach. I'm not saying I support this approach (I don't think isolationism would square with our economic strategies), but even if this was a disease with a much higher mortality rate we just aren't ever going to restrict freedom of movement along the border. It would cause political uproar among Nationalists north and south. And the Unionist community just are not going to sign up easily to anything that smacks of an all-Ireland approach because of the precedent they think it sets.

20-10-2020 10:17am

Black Sheep wrote: »

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There'll be some fun if the numbers don't go down quickly enough to allow restrictions to be significantly relaxed................

We can expect numbers to rise for the next few days up to a week anyway as the r number is over 1 and we've 5 or 6 days of 1000+ cases.

We will likely see 1500 cases some day over the coming days.

I imagine by the end of November we'll be at 100/150 cases per day at best and looking to reopen the country at level 3 ish.

Alf Veedersane · 20-10-2020 11:32am

The whole narrative around Christmas is largely because hospitalisations due to seasonal flu start to ramp up. It's not so much about the Covid numbers being high in and of themselves. It's because they are likely to be on top of normal seasonal numbers that coincide with the annual trolley crisis, i.e. the health service is already bursting at the seams.

Though it's trying to get people to buy into it so they can have a Christmas of some description.

The ICU admissions and deaths won't be to the same degree because the age profile of the cases this time is different. But the risk is that they will spread it to the vulnerable.

As much as I would love gyms to stay open, not least because I had signed up to do a competition in mid-December, I don't think it was ever feasible because you could make the same argument about a lot of things that won't be permitted under Level 5.

But I think it's important to not throw the baby out with the bathwater now in terms of how we deal with it. If someone was changing their diet and lifestyle, you wouldn't tell them to abandon that for 6 weeks. It will be tough for a lot of people to do something themselves outside of the gym but we can get into a different mindset and develop a habit. I think a lot of what got me through the first lockdown was habit and stubbornness.

It would be better for us all to just accept that it is what it is now and start to just help each other here or in another thread and give ideas what to do with what we have. How to make the most of a shít situation because getting angry and giving out about it and just general negativity right now is not going to help anyone.

This forum has been really good at times. I know I've benefitted hugely from the input from other posters over the years. It's why I still log in. So can we try rally together at a time a lot of us will find it more difficult to continue their fitness journey over the next 6 weeks.

Black Sheep · 20-10-2020 11:47am

If the hand-washing, social distancing and other ongoing measures associated with controlling covid are having any effect you would think that the normal season flu numbers should be drastically down, of course. It would be odd if they were not.

The ICU admissions and deaths won't be to the same degree because the age profile of the cases this time is different. But the risk is that they will spread it to the vulnerable.

I must admit I haven't heard what I'd consider a straight answer on the above as yet. The position seems to be that the current measures we are taking to control the rise in case numbers are linked to an expectation that there will be a lagging surge in serious hospitalisations and fatalities. This may well be what will occur, I don't want to come across as a crackpot here.

But if the lag doesn't resolve and the ICU numbers and fatalities don't rise now then there will be a discussion to be had. Because arguably it then becomes a question of how efficiently can we shield vulnerable people and care homes, once we know high case numbers in the general population actually isn't putting the health service under significant strain. If the only way we can think to protect vulnerable people and care homes is to bring national case numbers down using level 3-5 lockdowns that's grand... But seems like a very blunt instrument. It would be worth thinking about, if a more targeted approach would salvage the economy and save billions in national debt.

20-10-2020 11:55am

Black Sheep wrote: »

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But if the lag doesn't resolve and the ICU numbers and fatalities don't rise now then there will be a discussion to be had....................

ICU numbers and fatalities will likely not rise ........ Level 5 restrictions will undoubtedly curb the spread of the virus.

Alf Veedersane · 20-10-2020 12:02pm

Black Sheep wrote: »

If the hand-washing, social distancing and other ongoing measures associated with controlling covid are having any effect you would think that the normal season flu numbers should be drastically down, of course. It would be odd if they were not.

I must admit I haven't heard what I'd consider a straight answer on the above as yet. The position seems to be that the current measures we are taking to control the rise in case numbers are linked to an expectation that there will be a lagging surge in serious hospitalisations and fatalities. This may well be what will occur, I don't want to come across as a crackpot here.

But if the lag doesn't resolve and the ICU numbers and fatalities don't rise now then there will be a discussion to be had. Because arguably it then becomes a question of how efficiently can we shield vulnerable people and care homes, once we know high case numbers in the general population actually isn't putting the health service under significant strain. If the only way we can think to protect vulnerable people and care homes is to bring national case numbers down using level 3-5 lockdowns that's grand... But seems like a very blunt instrument. It would be worth thinking about, if a more targeted approach would salvage the economy and save billions in national debt.

The rate of hospitalisations is going up. It was 100 four weeks ago. 150 two weeks ago, It's at 315 now. Level 3 hadn't worked. A move to level 4 or 5 was needed to address that. Then it becomes a question of are they just delaying the inevitable.

I do think that being back at this point is likely a result of a failure to act appropriately and quickly to this point.

I heard last night there was to be a review after 4 weeks.

theballz · 20-10-2020 12:06pm

I have to say I am really pissed off at all this.

I do agree gyms might be a danger for the infection (although not proven,) however, there are certain smaller gyms in Dublin that are safe. The gym I had been a member in for years completely took advantage of the reopening, they took on new members and they were always packed. For this reason, I left the gym and joined another.

My new gym (since reopening of initial lockdown,) only allows 4 people to train at a time. With one 1 personal trainer supervising. Every member of the class has to wipe down all equipment and hand sanitize throughout the session.

Yet they also have to close down? It's a complete disgrace.

Exercise in this country is not taken seriously by our government and the mental health implications cannot be overlooked.

Starlord_01 · 20-10-2020 12:16pm

Bit the bullet and invested in some more dumbbells to add to the ones I picked up in April along with the collection of resistance bands. :pac:

Hoping the gyms are open this side of Christmas.

completedit · 20-10-2020 12:48pm

I think I'll just use the time to get cardio fit. Some sort of pull up programme using my attic bannisters. It's honestly very grim

rondog · 20-10-2020 1:05pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

To be fair, what do you want the Public Health Emergency team to advise on other than public health?

That is their role. To advise on the protection of public health.

The government take that advise and make decision based on all factors, including the economy.

That was Nephet who advised the lockdown.

Leo and the govt could have balanced it out and realised that they will ruin the economy which they are.
We could have had the guards/army in and enforced guidelines at level 3 and we woudlnt be in this mess.
The fact that we are the only country in europe that had no other resolution but to lock down a whole country shows how pathetic NEPHET is and our spineless govt.

Peope who say bringing the guards and army in is a police state ,really?what are we in now and probably for months to come.We will have checkpoints monitoring our movements,no bars,restaurants to go to, no Malls to buy things no outlet like gyms for the thousands of people who work from home and will have kids in the evenings so will cuase many to slip into depression.

Closing the whole country down when even the WHO advise against it shows how weak and pathetic nephet is that theur only solution is to push our ecomony to ruin with approx 200k people out of work.

China with 1 billion in population enforced strict lockdowns initially and look at them now basically back to normal wth a GDP growth of 4% for the last 3 months .

el Fenomeno · 20-10-2020 1:08pm

completedit wrote: »

I think I'll just use the time to get cardio fit. Some sort of pull up programme using my attic bannisters. It's honestly very grim

I think that's what I'll do too. I'll just focus on cardio and conditioning, and work in whatever bodyweight and resistance band strength training I can.

rondog · 20-10-2020 1:14pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The rate of hospitalisations is going up. It was 100 four weeks ago. 150 two weeks ago, It's at 315 now. Level 3 hadn't worked. A move to level 4 or 5 was needed to address that. Then it becomes a question of are they just delaying the inevitable.

I do think that being back at this point is likely a result of a failure to act appropriately and quickly to this point.

I heard last night there was to be a review after 4 weeks.

Wrong!Level 3 wasnt ENFORCED.

I saw hoards of young lads roaming around in gangs.I saw videos of 2 traveller communions with 150/200 at each and not 1 mask at it.I saw students 200+ gathering together with zero social distancing.I could go on and on.

We were told they couldnt give guards authority to shut down house parties but now suddenly they can at level 5.If we enforced ,like china and NZ did, we wouldnt be in a potential extra national lockdown for more than 6 weeks i can guarantee you that.

We have a clueless govt who collectively had no other solution that another lock down,the only country in europe with another one.

We will be entering one of the worst depressions seen in our economy in our lifetimes.

Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

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