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Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 09:30PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Hope schools stay open too
Put up question on club whats app Friday night re whether parents were happy for us to continue training
It was 100% positive ie keep training going as long as its allowed.No one worried about contact etc.
And before anyone asks no peer pressure as all were aked to reply privately and not on public group.That was approx 80/90 parents with a 70/80% reply rate

Training Is one thing - not sure about county and club matches still going ahead...

Think they are too much of a driver for get togethers & celebrations...

GoneHome · 18-10-2020 09:33PM

_Brian wrote: »

L4 here in Cavan and serious the business that are remaining opened.

Toy shops open and busy.
JD Sports.

Local clothes shops open, they got in safety boots viz vests and now classified as essential.

FFS that's criminal, that's why we're going to L5 because of cowboys like that trying to find ways 'round the restrictions, if we all pulled together and abide by the rules we could surpress this thing in 6 - 8 weeks but the way things are going it'll be well into next year before we start to see light at the end of the tunnel

greenfield21 · 18-10-2020 09:33PM

GoneHome wrote: »

At the end of the day people's health is more important than any economic consequences really, that's what it boils down to.

I wonder how long we can keep saying this for?

whelan2 · 18-10-2020 09:34PM

We had training the other night, no contact, kids need to be out .
Yesterday we had an fai rep to our soccer club for goalkeeper training. 12 kids 2 coaches, young lad still on a high. All protocols in place. Why stop this sort of stuff. No games, but kids need to be out .

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 09:37PM

GoneHome wrote: »

And this folks is why the virus is spreading, "keep training going as long as its allowed, no one worried about contact", jesus wept

Well - in our case, the kids are small and meeting the same kids in school as at training...
So not much difference to school...

I do think it’s different for older players. I wouldn’t be a fan of people travelling distances to train with the local team - not sure that’s happening or not?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-10-2020 09:37PM

Interesting development in Sweden, now moving towards restrictions.
https://twitter.com/Nutradvance/status/1317925957278289921?s=19

paddysdream · 18-10-2020 09:38PM

GoneHome wrote: »

And this folks is why the virus is spreading, "keep training going as long as its allowed, no one worried about contact", jesus wept

Well the kids would have less contact with each other than they have in school
Does the school take their temperature as they enter,does the school or the parents supervise them 100% of the time etc?
Its non contact training for an hour a week with no matchin training.
It's corona virus people are worried about not the bubonic plague

GoneHome · 18-10-2020 09:41PM

whelan2 wrote: »

We had training the other night, no contact, kids need to be out .
Yesterday we had an fai rep to our soccer club for goalkeeper training. 12 kids 2 coaches, young lad still on a high. All protocols in place. Why stop this sort of stuff. No games, but kids need to be out .

But that's the whole problem, it was only "a kids training camp", it was only "meeting a mate in the gym", it was only "meeting a friend for coffee while sitting outside", it's all these little interactions that are spreading the virus, can people not see that.

whelan2 · 18-10-2020 09:43PM

GoneHome wrote: »

But that's the whole problem, it was only "a kids training camp", it was only "meeting a mate in the gym", it was only "meeting a friend for coffee while sitting outside", it's all these little interactions that are spreading the virus, can people not see that.

Temperature is taken before training session. Hands washed and and sanitized before they go on the pitch. All protocol in place. What more do you want them to do?

greenfield21 · 18-10-2020 09:44PM

GoneHome wrote: »

But that's the whole problem, it was only "a kids training camp", it was only "meeting a mate in the gym", it was only "meeting a friend for coffee while sitting outside", it's all these little interactions that are spreading the virus, can people not see that.

That's a little harsh can you not see there's no way of getting rid of this now, the ship has sailed for zero covid. We're just buying time until a vaccine comes along. How do we do this? Endless lockdowns?

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 09:46PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Temperature is taken before training session. Hands washed and and sanitized before they go on the pitch. All protocol in place. What more do you want them to do?

I think the answer is stay at home Whelan

Kids training - I don’t know, when the schools are still open it’s a difficult one to judge...

The other examples GoHome - cafe, gym, think they should all be closed for a few weeks... go take away if they can...

I think we have to go to level 5 myself...

ruwithme · 18-10-2020 09:47PM

Enjoyed listening to gaa commentary on radio and the couple of games on tv yesterday and today. Took me away from covid anyway for awhile. (I don't make the rules on games going ahead before anyone levels it at me.)

paddysdream · 18-10-2020 09:47PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Temperature is taken before training session. Hands washed and and sanitized before they go on the pitch. All protocol in place. What more do you want them to do?

In the real world people are getting on with it as far as I can see.Like I said not one parent had expressed any reservation re their child attending.

GoneHome · 18-10-2020 09:47PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Temperature is taken before training session. Hands washed and and sanitized before they go on the pitch. All protocol in place. What more do you want them to do?

Ahh maybe stay at home and have zero interaction with other people, that's why we're going to level 5, as my previous post said it's these mundane little interactions that are spreading the virus regardless of temperature checks etc and how "safe" you think they are, that's level 2 or 3 stuff which with the rising figures have proved to be ineffective

whelan2 · 18-10-2020 09:49PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I think the answer is stay at home Whelan

Kids training - I don’t know, when the schools are still open it’s a difficult one to judge...

The other examples GoHome - cafe, gym, think they should all be closed for a few weeks... go take away if they can...

I think we have to go to level 5 myself...

At this stage though do we not have to try to live with the virus but keep to the protocols? I do not see the harm of non contact training outdoors keeping to protocol. It's good for the kids mentally

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 09:52PM

ruwithme wrote: »

Enjoyed listening to gaa commentary on radio and the couple of games on tv yesterday and today. Took me away from covid anyway for awhile. (I don't make the rules on games going ahead before anyone levels it at me.)

I have heard of a few instances of matches being the reasons for sessions in a few different parts of the country...

I can see how they could - it’s always been that way to celebrate a big win...

That’s why the GAA should have pulled the pin on them ages ago...

whelan2 · 18-10-2020 09:54PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I have heard of a few instances of matches being the reasons for sessions in a few different parts of the country...

I can see how they could - it’s always been that way to celebrate a big win...

That’s why the GAA should have pulled the pin on them ages ago...

In fairness I dont think kids training sessions are spreading ,it's the adults letting the sport down

paddysdream · 18-10-2020 09:55PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I think the answer is stay at home Whelan

Kids training - I don’t know, when the schools are still open it’s a difficult one to judge...

The other examples GoHome - cafe, gym, think they should all be closed for a few weeks... go take away if they can...

I think we have to go to level 5 myself...

Looking more and more like the Government will tighten things up tomorrow.
To be honest not really bothered at this stage as 99% of it has no effect on me.
Miss going for a pint but that ship has long sailed and not likely to be back in port this side of next Spring.
Other than that as long as schools remain open I can honestly say that life would be the same next week as the 3rd week of October 2019.
Ok no soccer games on a Saturday morning but thats about it I think

GoneHome · 18-10-2020 09:56PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I have heard of a few instances of matches being the reasons for sessions in a few different parts of the country...

I can see how they could - it’s always been that way to celebrate a big win...

That’s why the GAA should have pulled the pin on them ages ago...

Have to agree with you here, I'm a big GAA supporter myself but I think it's the height of madness still holding games with the way things are going with the virus numbers, a prime example was the situation with the Fermanagh team during the week.

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 09:57PM

whelan2 wrote: »

At this stage though do we not have to try to live with the virus but keep to the protocols? I do not see the harm of non contact training outdoors keeping to protocol. It's good for the kids mentally

I think we should go to level 5, try to get it back under control...

I also think we should track down what caused clusters in places over the past few weeks, and put something in place if they happen again - fines or arrests if needed...
So once(if) we get the numbers done again, if we see them creeping again in some place, and if the reasons are people not adhering to the protocols they get stuck with a decent fine...

GoneHome · 18-10-2020 09:58PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Other than that as long as schools remain open

I can't in all honesty see that lasting either, I reckon they'll announce the closure of schools tomorrow/Tue when it goes to level 5

yosemitesam1 · 18-10-2020 10:00PM

Water John wrote: »

If we had all bought into Level 2/3, the livelyhood of many workers wouldn't be now at risk.

There's zero reason to think that is the case. We're moving into winter FFS cold and flu season. There's a lot more to rises over the last 6 weeks than people not following rules.
All decisions/recommendations are being made based on dirty data which is a recipe for disaster

yosemitesam1 · 18-10-2020 10:01PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I think we should go to level 5, try to get it back under control...

I also think we should track down what caused clusters in places over the past few weeks, and put something in place if they happen again - fines or arrests if needed...
So once(if) we get the numbers done again, if we see them creeping again in some place, and if the reasons are people not adhering to the protocols they get stuck with a decent fine...

It simply can't be done.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-10-2020 10:03PM

GoneHome wrote: »

Ahh maybe stay at home and have zero interaction with other people, that's why we're going to level 5, as my previous post said it's these mundane little interactions that are spreading the virus regardless of temperature checks etc and how "safe" you think they are, that's level 2 or 3 stuff which with the rising figures have proved to be ineffective

Tbh, zero interactions with other people is maybe a step too far.

But the onus is on us to limit the numbers of interactions with people outside our own house, minimise the length of those interactions, maintain social distancing, wear masks and wash our hands.

It's probably necessary for the next 6 months at least, assuming there's a viable and safe vaccine available at that stage.

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 10:05PM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

It simply can't be done.

Maybe Sam, I don’t know enough about the science of it to definitely say...

My thinking is lockdown contained it last time, if we can do it once more and this time once under control keep a proper lid on it afterwards...

Might be wrong, others of course will disagree...

Dinzee Conlee · 18-10-2020 10:07PM

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Tbh, zero interactions with other people is maybe a step too far.

But the onus is on us to limit the numbers of interactions with people outside our own house, minimise the length of those interactions, maintain social distancing, wear masks and wash our hands.

It's probably necessary for the next 6 months at least, assuming there's a viable and safe vaccine available at that stage.

Yeah, lockdown or not - I think life will be strange for the medium term...
And I think life will be different in the longer term...

gozunda · 18-10-2020 10:12PM

Its when you read accounts of 33 year old dying of it - that it makes it clear its not just something older people get.

"A fitness "influencer" who thought COVID-19 did not exist has died from the virus at the age of 33."

https://news.sky.com/story/influencer-dmitriy-stuzhuk-dies-from-covid-19-after-denying-its-existence-12107174

Say my name · 18-10-2020 10:13PM

Just a reminder of Level 5 restrictions as set out by the government.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

paddysdream · 18-10-2020 10:13PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Yeah, lockdown or not - I think life will be strange for the medium term...
And I think life will be different in the longer term...

Thats a very pessimistic outlook.Cannot see people buying into all this for very much longer.
Every day we hear "worst figures yet" " the next two weeks are crucial" etc and nothing happens.
Lockdown in March was to allow the HSE to prepare and to string out bad cases as long as possible.

Everyone will tick the boxes and say all the right things but will it become something like a Bord Bia audit ie whats the point of a lot of this stupid stuff but lets shut up,pretend to do it,and the inspector will be gone soon

18-10-2020 10:14PM

whelan2 wrote: »

If schools are closed kids are going to hang around , no madks etc. At least at school they are in pods and so far it's working ok

Parenting failure.

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