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Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

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  • #1892
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Water John wrote: »
    the groundwork hadn't been done to go to Level 5 in terms of bringing the people with them. It would have been a disastrous failure.

    A possible failure, now it's more of a guaranteed failure. Losing the Christmas season will be absolutely devastating for many businesses.


  • #1893
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,400 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah, no one should start Christmas shopping until after the 8th of Dec.


  • #1894
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,573 ✭✭✭emaherx


    endainoz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.

    Glad I'm not making the decision.
    They can't win, they'll be criticized no matter which way they do it, and it will be long after this is all over that some may agree on what would have been the best path between restriction and allowing the economy to breath a little.


  • #1895
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭endainoz


    emaherx wrote: »
    Glad I'm not making the decision.
    They can't win, they'll be criticized no matter which way they do it, and it will be long after this is all over that some may agree on what would have been the best path between restriction and allowing the economy to breath a little.

    Agreed it's a rock and a hard place type of situation.


  • #1896
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Was on farm news on lmfm there the restrictions in place in marts at level 4. They must submit a plan to dvo prior to operating.

    Got a reply from my local mart just now. Word from marts in Donegal is sellers drop off stock & must leave. Buyers can buy but no viewing time. We're not in DL but our mart said they have to go by whatever our local DVO tell them.


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  • #1897
    wrangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,596 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    emaherx wrote: »
    They don't get to threaten anything. Level 5 has been their recommendation for the past few weeks. Would seem government may not even discuss the recommendation till next week.

    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.


  • #1898
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,573 ✭✭✭emaherx


    wrangler wrote: »
    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.

    That may be the case, but I'll still stick by what I said. NPHET don't and can't threaten any level only advise, it's still for the government to decide and they still can decide to ignore the advice or go to level 4.

    It's NPHET's job to advise based on public health and the government's to try an balance that with protecting the economy.

    We are already more locked down than most countries where the virus is more rampant. Like I said earlier I'm glad I'm not making that decision.


  • #1899
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,596 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    wrangler wrote: »
    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.

    The public are calling for level 5.

    Opinionated ones even saying we should have been level 5 two weeks ago and we wouldn't be in this situation today.

    Government will cave in to pressure.


  • #1900
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,637 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    endainoz wrote: »
    Taoiseach says 'good consideration' will be given to NPHET's Level 5 advice as leaders set to meet tomorrow https://jrnl.ie/5235126

    Apparently they will discuss it tomorrow.....

    I'd say they'll try to meet half way and put the country on level four for a while before the inevitable level 5 for the whole country, making it very tight to give retail a chance to operate for their busiest time of year. The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.

    Theres a bit of a meeting on atm. Must be getting a head start


  • #1901
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Theres a bit of a meeting on atm. Must be getting a head start

    Clarity is needed this time round for sure. It would be a mistake to leave the decision too long.


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  • #1902
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭alps


    Say my name wrote: »
    The public are calling for level 5.

    Opinionated ones even saying we should have been level 5 two weeks ago and we wouldn't be in this situation today.

    Government will cave in to pressure.

    That's a shame....

    Current restrictions (level 3 and cop the **** on) only in with a week...

    We're gone 2 weeks now from one of the greatest party weekend this country has ever seen...

    Looks like Crok on the decrease now..

    Just cant imagine how many businesses can ever recover from this...


  • #1903
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    They need to figure put what to do post any level 5 or whatever as well. Way things are going we could be well be in for spells in and and out of lockdown. In to knock it back a bit and then out once levels are down a bit and back in if/ when they rise again just so the health system can cope.
    One thing I'd hope they should be doing in the background is having someone look at the health system because throwing money at it doesn't and won't work, needs total overhaul covid or no covid


  • #1904
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mooooo wrote: »
    They need to figure put what to do post any level 5 or whatever as well. Way things are going we could be well be in for spells in and and out of lockdown. In to knock it back a bit and then out once levels are down a bit and back in if/ when they rise again just so the health system can cope.

    That is the plan I would think, knock it back, hope and be disappointed people might be sensible, up the levels, lockdown, knock it back, hope..... Until a vaccine is arrived at.


  • #1905
    greenfield21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    The plan from the start should have been to protect the at risk groups and increase hospital capacity. Luckily we are starting to see this and lockdowns will become a distant memory. It's Way to late though and now we are right back where we started


  • #1906
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1317228815106572290?s=19


  • #1907
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Blood type O may have a lower risk of infection from coronavirus according to Danish research.
    https://www.hematology.org/newsroom/press-releases/2020/possible-link-between-blood-type-and-covid-19


  • #1908
    kerryjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    Blood type O may have a lower risk of infection from coronavirus according to Danish research.
    https://www.hematology.org/newsroom/press-releases/2020/possible-link-between-blood-type-and-covid-19

    That's great now all I have to do is find out my blood type


  • #1909
    GoneHome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Looking very serious now with tonight's figures, level 5 on the way from tomorrow night it would seem.


  • #1910
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,400 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If we had all bought into Level 2/3, the livelyhood of many workers wouldn't be now at risk.


  • #1911
    GoneHome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Water John wrote: »
    If we had all bought into Level 2/3, the livelyhood of many workers wouldn't be now at risk.

    At the end of the day people's health is more important than any economic consequences really, that's what it boils down to.


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  • #1912
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,056 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Just hope schools stay open


  • #1913
    paddysdream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Think its all a bit overblown (unless i get it bad I suppose)
    But I think its the inconsistent,contradictory nature of the restrictions that have made people ignore them.
    For example was in Dublin Saturday morning and on way home garda checkpoint on dual carriageway.Big roadwork signs pushing 3 lanes into 2,flashing boards telling hgvs to keep right.I kept right in car as did many others and only those foolish enough to keep to the leftmost lane had to stop.
    Could someone please explain what that waste of approx 10 Garda was all in aid of.


  • #1914
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Just hope schools stay open

    Pointless having a lockdown with open schools.


  • #1915
    ruwithme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Hardly learning to live with it at level 5. Paralysing the country for a unknown period of time .level 3 restrictions not yet 2weeks in.

    The economy is about more than individual greed and capitalism.virus is weaker now and more infectious.very one sided commentary heard on media,especially when media are driving this more than the reality. Doesn't make for any level of balanced thinking in decision making.


  • #1916
    paddysdream
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Hope schools stay open too
    Put up question on club whats app Friday night re whether parents were happy for us to continue training
    It was 100% positive ie keep training going as long as its allowed.No one worried about contact etc.
    And before anyone asks no peer pressure as all were aked to reply privately and not on public group.That was approx 80/90 parents with a 70/80% reply rate


  • #1917
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,056 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pointless having a lockdown with open schools.

    If schools are closed kids are going to hang around , no madks etc. At least at school they are in pods and so far it's working ok


  • #1918
    GoneHome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    paddysdream wrote: »
    Hope schools stay open too
    Put up question on club whats app Friday night re whether parents were happy for us to continue training
    It was 100% positive ie keep training going as long as its allowed.No one worried about contact etc.
    And before anyone asks no peer pressure as all were aked to reply privately and not on public group.That was approx 80/90 parents with a 70/80% reply rate

    And this folks is why the virus is spreading, "keep training going as long as its allowed, no one worried about contact", jesus wept


  • #1919
    ruwithme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Pointless having a lockdown with open schools.

    If you believe that,you must believe nphet aren't telling the truth regarding schools and the spread of the virus.


  • #1920
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,190 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    L4 here in Cavan and serious the business that are remaining opened.

    Toy shops open and busy.
    JD Sports.

    Local clothes shops open, they got in safety boots viz vests and now classified as essential.


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  • #1921
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭naughto


    Unions will have a fit if they try to keep the schools open the are allready looking at strike action


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