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    #1892
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The marts would nearly get a exemption for a couple of weeks to get the bulk of the selling that's left to do over. Calves being weaned all over the country, they would need to be catered for.


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    #1893
    whelan2
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    When will the government be making an announcement about restrictions?


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    #1894
    [Deleted User]
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    endainoz wrote: »
    The marts would nearly get a exemption for a couple of weeks to get the bulk of the selling that's left to do over. Calves being weaned all over the country, they would need to be catered for.

    Hope so, I have ram lambs to clear out yet. Don't mind being caught with ewe lambs or cull ewes even.


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    #1895
    [Deleted User]
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    When will the government be making an announcement about restrictions?

    Has Leo leaked anything yet? :confused:


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    #1896
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,210 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Has Leo leaked anything yet? :confused:

    A few replies came into my head there, none of them printable :)


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    #1897
    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,577 ✭✭✭White Clover


    tanko wrote: »
    Would marts close completely at level 5, even online selling?

    Doubt it. Farming is an essential service. Of course strict protocol will have to be adhered to.


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    #1898
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greenfield21 wrote: »
    Something like 5 people have been known to be reinfected with covid. So herd immunity is possible. Would you agree. interesting to see hotspots moving to new areas now aswell. Will places that have locked down now fare worse over coming winter assuming we face lockdown fatigue.

    How did you come to that conclusion?


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    #1899
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭emaherx


    wrangler wrote: »
    NEPHAT threatening level 5 for six weeks, feck.
    TBF hospitals will be packed soon if something radical isn't done

    They don't get to threaten anything. Level 5 has been their recommendation for the past few weeks. Would seem government may not even discuss the recommendation till next week.


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    #1900
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭endainoz


    emaherx wrote: »
    They don't get to threaten anything. Level 5 has been their recommendation for the past few weeks. Would seem government may not even discuss the recommendation till next week.

    Taoiseach says 'good consideration' will be given to NPHET's Level 5 advice as leaders set to meet tomorrow https://jrnl.ie/5235126

    Apparently they will discuss it tomorrow.....

    I'd say they'll try to meet half way and put the country on level four for a while before the inevitable level 5 for the whole country, making it very tight to give retail a chance to operate for their busiest time of year. The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.


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    #1901
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    endainoz wrote: »
    Taoiseach says 'good consideration' will be given to NPHET's Level 5 advice as leaders set to meet tomorrow https://jrnl.ie/5235126

    Apparently they will discuss it tomorrow.....

    I'd say they'll try to meet half way and put the country on level four for a while before the inevitable level 5 for the whole country, making it very tight to give retail a chance to operate for their busiest time of year. The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.

    the groundwork hadn't been done to go to Level 5 in terms of bringing the people with them. It would have been a disastrous failure.


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    #1902
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Water John wrote: »
    the groundwork hadn't been done to go to Level 5 in terms of bringing the people with them. It would have been a disastrous failure.

    A possible failure, now it's more of a guaranteed failure. Losing the Christmas season will be absolutely devastating for many businesses.


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    #1903
    Water John
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    Ah, no one should start Christmas shopping until after the 8th of Dec.


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    #1904
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭emaherx


    endainoz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.

    Glad I'm not making the decision.
    They can't win, they'll be criticized no matter which way they do it, and it will be long after this is all over that some may agree on what would have been the best path between restriction and allowing the economy to breath a little.


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    #1905
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭endainoz


    emaherx wrote: »
    Glad I'm not making the decision.
    They can't win, they'll be criticized no matter which way they do it, and it will be long after this is all over that some may agree on what would have been the best path between restriction and allowing the economy to breath a little.

    Agreed it's a rock and a hard place type of situation.


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    #1906
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Was on farm news on lmfm there the restrictions in place in marts at level 4. They must submit a plan to dvo prior to operating.

    Got a reply from my local mart just now. Word from marts in Donegal is sellers drop off stock & must leave. Buyers can buy but no viewing time. We're not in DL but our mart said they have to go by whatever our local DVO tell them.


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    #1907
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    emaherx wrote: »
    They don't get to threaten anything. Level 5 has been their recommendation for the past few weeks. Would seem government may not even discuss the recommendation till next week.

    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.


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    #1908
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭emaherx


    wrangler wrote: »
    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.

    That may be the case, but I'll still stick by what I said. NPHET don't and can't threaten any level only advise, it's still for the government to decide and they still can decide to ignore the advice or go to level 4.

    It's NPHET's job to advise based on public health and the government's to try an balance that with protecting the economy.

    We are already more locked down than most countries where the virus is more rampant. Like I said earlier I'm glad I'm not making that decision.


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    #1909
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    wrangler wrote: »
    NEPHAT are in a very strong position now after the cockup the Government made by ignoring them last Sunday week.
    They're bringing the Government together tomorrow considering the seriousness of the situation, That's how serious they're taking them now.

    The public are calling for level 5.

    Opinionated ones even saying we should have been level 5 two weeks ago and we wouldn't be in this situation today.

    Government will cave in to pressure.


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    #1910
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    endainoz wrote: »
    Taoiseach says 'good consideration' will be given to NPHET's Level 5 advice as leaders set to meet tomorrow https://jrnl.ie/5235126

    Apparently they will discuss it tomorrow.....

    I'd say they'll try to meet half way and put the country on level four for a while before the inevitable level 5 for the whole country, making it very tight to give retail a chance to operate for their busiest time of year. The funny thing is that if they listened to the advice from two weeks ago we would have data by now to see if it had worked or not. But they seem to like dragging out the suffering.

    Theres a bit of a meeting on atm. Must be getting a head start


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    #1911
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Theres a bit of a meeting on atm. Must be getting a head start

    Clarity is needed this time round for sure. It would be a mistake to leave the decision too long.


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    #1912
    alps
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    Say my name wrote: »
    The public are calling for level 5.

    Opinionated ones even saying we should have been level 5 two weeks ago and we wouldn't be in this situation today.

    Government will cave in to pressure.

    That's a shame....

    Current restrictions (level 3 and cop the **** on) only in with a week...

    We're gone 2 weeks now from one of the greatest party weekend this country has ever seen...

    Looks like Crok on the decrease now..

    Just cant imagine how many businesses can ever recover from this...


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    #1913
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    They need to figure put what to do post any level 5 or whatever as well. Way things are going we could be well be in for spells in and and out of lockdown. In to knock it back a bit and then out once levels are down a bit and back in if/ when they rise again just so the health system can cope.
    One thing I'd hope they should be doing in the background is having someone look at the health system because throwing money at it doesn't and won't work, needs total overhaul covid or no covid


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    #1914
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    They need to figure put what to do post any level 5 or whatever as well. Way things are going we could be well be in for spells in and and out of lockdown. In to knock it back a bit and then out once levels are down a bit and back in if/ when they rise again just so the health system can cope.

    That is the plan I would think, knock it back, hope and be disappointed people might be sensible, up the levels, lockdown, knock it back, hope..... Until a vaccine is arrived at.


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    #1915
    greenfield21
    Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    The plan from the start should have been to protect the at risk groups and increase hospital capacity. Luckily we are starting to see this and lockdowns will become a distant memory. It's Way to late though and now we are right back where we started


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    #1916
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1317228815106572290?s=19


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    #1917
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Blood type O may have a lower risk of infection from coronavirus according to Danish research.
    https://www.hematology.org/newsroom/press-releases/2020/possible-link-between-blood-type-and-covid-19


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    #1918
    kerryjack
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    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    Blood type O may have a lower risk of infection from coronavirus according to Danish research.
    https://www.hematology.org/newsroom/press-releases/2020/possible-link-between-blood-type-and-covid-19

    That's great now all I have to do is find out my blood type


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    #1919
    GoneHome
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Looking very serious now with tonight's figures, level 5 on the way from tomorrow night it would seem.


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    #1920
    Water John
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    If we had all bought into Level 2/3, the livelyhood of many workers wouldn't be now at risk.


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    #1921
    GoneHome
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Water John wrote: »
    If we had all bought into Level 2/3, the livelyhood of many workers wouldn't be now at risk.

    At the end of the day people's health is more important than any economic consequences really, that's what it boils down to.


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