Provided chargers at shops

Sheep Shagger · 07-08-2020 7:52pm

unkel wrote: »

Pretty pathetic situation. The idiots who decided on the system of handing out the fobs should be reprimanded by higher management.

Let's not forget the people who decided they needed the fobs more than others and stole them.

Felexicon · 07-08-2020 7:58pm

unkel wrote: »

Pretty pathetic situation. The idiots who decided on the system of handing out the fobs should be reprimanded by higher management.

Should have made people pay a deposit or allow activation by pin code

unkel · 07-08-2020 9:39pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Let's not forget the people who decided they needed the fobs more than others and stole them.

Yeah sure but people are bad bastards. The naivety of thinking 100% of the people borrowing the dongle will be nice and good people (like me

) who will bring the dongle straight back is baffling.

They should have just made them freevend like any other shop with chargers. And if they are a bit mean, then they could switch them off outside of the shop's opening hours. And if they are really mean / strict, they could have a bulky security guard patrolling them telling them "customers only" and threatening to clamp their car if people weren't heading straight into Decathlon after plugging in

Sheep Shagger · 07-08-2020 11:08pm

unkel wrote: »

Yeah sure but people are bad bastards. The naivety of thinking 100% of the people borrowing the dongle will be nice and good people (like me ) who will bring the dongle straight back is baffling.

They should have just made them freevend like any other shop with chargers. And if they are a bit mean, then they could switch them off outside of the shop's opening hours. And if they are really mean / strict, they could have a bulky security guard patrolling them telling them "customers only" and threatening to clamp their car if people weren't heading straight into Decathlon after plugging in

Agreed, I was hood law abiding citizen last week and returned the gob as we entered the shop after plugging the car in.

I wonder if Decathlon have this problem in other branches around Europe?

innrain · 08-08-2020 8:15am

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

I wonder if Decathlon have this problem in other branches around Europe?

By charging for charging

NL https://www.plugshare.com/location/253902 35c AC 50c DC /KWh
HU https://www.plugshare.com/location/195381 some pricing structure DC approx 25c KWh
B https://www.plugshare.com/location/138223 DC 35c/KWh + 20c/min

DC because it makes sense.

miamee · 11-08-2020 10:48am

Fob back in use last night at Decathlon according to OH.

Gumbo · 11-08-2020 11:05pm

miamee wrote: »

Fob back in use last night at Decathlon according to OH.

Someone posted the same info on the FB group today.
Hopefully they look after it

unkel · 10-10-2020 4:53pm

Decathlon now usable through the Easygo app. No longer any need for a dongle

Gumbo · 10-10-2020 4:59pm

unkel wrote: »

Decathlon now usable through the Easygo app. No longer any need for a dongle

At need for a specific registration or just swipe your own easygo fob?

unkel · 10-10-2020 5:06pm

My fob doesn't work, so I just use the app to start the charge. I am obviously logged into my Easygo account to while doing that!

Not all of the charge points are working BTW, so check the app first before you park and hook up. Unlike me, I had to move

Kramer · 10-10-2020 10:14pm

unkel wrote: »

Decathlon now usable through the Easygo app. No longer any need for a dongle

Make sure they are free - apparently Easygo have been known to levy charges on certain chargers, initiated through their app (DC only though, IIRC), despite the app indicating the chargers as "Free of Charge".

unkel · 10-10-2020 10:59pm

Kramer wrote: »

Make sure they are free - apparently Easygo have been known to levy charges on certain chargers, initiated through their app (DC only though, IIRC), despite the app indicating the chargers as "Free of Charge".

Yeah I saw you or someone else mention that recently. I've never paid them, so I have no credit balance and I doubt I ever gave them my card details so they can auto charge me. Can't be bothered to go to the bottom of this now, but if they do charge me, I will let you all know in here :-)

I'd be pretty confident that their Decathlon AC chargers are free though!

AndyBoBandy · 10-10-2020 11:43pm

Looks like only 4/10 are active as per the app.....

unkel · 10-10-2020 11:57pm

Yeah, next thing we'd all like to know is if they're available and if charging is working outside shop opening hours (or 24/7)

The only reason I charged there today is that I had business in Ballymun (5 minute drive from there) and I had time to kill. I also like the idea of offsetting the outrageous payment of motorway toll charges - there should never be toll charges on any ring road around any capital city - so despite my 75% toll discount it still cost a touch over €1 for a return trip across the M50. The 35kWh I got free at Decathlon offset that nicely. €1 toll paid, almost €3 saved on electricity

zg3409 · 11-10-2020 1:44pm

unkel wrote: »

Yeah, next thing we'd all like to know is if they're available and if charging is working outside shop opening hours (or 24/7)

The only reason I charged there today is that I had business in Ballymun (5 minute drive from there) and I had time to kill. I also like the idea of offsetting the outrageous payment of motorway toll charges - there should never be toll charges on any ring road around any capital city - so despite my 75% toll discount it still cost a touch over €1 for a return trip across the M50. The 35kWh I got free at Decathlon offset that nicely. €1 toll paid, almost €3 saved on electricity

Chargers are for customer use only. If you go next door to ikea or leave the site, you might be clamped for stealing their customer perk.

unkel · 11-10-2020 7:18pm

zg3409 wrote: »

Chargers are for customer use only. If you go next door to ikea or leave the site, you might be clamped for stealing their customer perk.

I was going to go in (I did the last time) as my daughter broke her whip yesterday but the queue was too long for my liking.

And I very much doubt anyone will get clamped there unless maybe they leave the car there all day

Felexicon · 15-10-2020 4:55pm

unkel wrote: »

Yeah, next thing we'd all like to know is if they're available and if charging is working outside shop opening hours (or 24/7)

The only reason I charged there today is that I had business in Ballymun (5 minute drive from there) and I had time to kill. I also like the idea of offsetting the outrageous payment of motorway toll charges - there should never be toll charges on any ring road around any capital city - so despite my 75% toll discount it still cost a touch over €1 for a return trip across the M50. The 35kWh I got free at Decathlon offset that nicely. €1 toll paid, almost €3 saved on electricity

9/10 are now available through the app.

There is currently no cost to charging there.

Chargers are on 24/7 but not sure if Decathlon close the barrier to block access to car park outside shop opening times.

miamee · 16-10-2020 3:35pm

I came across these new chargers in the red car park in Blanchardstown Shopping Centre yesterday. There is a new Aldi due to open there soon so I am assuming that they have had them installed but I don't know that for sure. There are 2 sockets per unit (8 total) but only 4 spaces marked as EV charging spaces. You could charge from the spots behind too if available.

AndyBoBandy · 16-10-2020 3:37pm

Now that's great, and what a hub should look like... granted it's only 7kW AC, but it's what shops should be doing to incentivise folk to visit.... same as Decathlon.

Gumbo · 16-10-2020 3:44pm

^^^^^ free to use?

miamee · 16-10-2020 3:50pm

You now know as much as I do from the photos but if I see any more info, I'll update here.

MJohnston · 16-10-2020 4:04pm

Those look exactly like the stations installed at Stillorgan Shopping Centre (which are free to use)

MJohnston · 16-10-2020 4:14pm

Here's the Stillorgan ones from PlugShare (glad my memory is in good shape, I used these about a month ago lol):

Sheep Shagger · 16-10-2020 6:00pm

They're also the same ones that Dunnes on Newtownpark Avenue have that Dunnes said were actually ESB and therefore ESB charges apply.

Why they are not ESB branded i do not know, have not been there for a while to see if they work....

MJohnston · 16-10-2020 6:06pm

Maybe ESB installed them but not as eCars chargers? For whatever reason

unkel · 16-10-2020 9:37pm

7kW?

I don't know why anyone would be bothered plugging into that, unless you're going to be there for several hours (3+) anyway

Remember, get 20kWh minimum is the new rule.

Sheep Shagger · 16-10-2020 9:46pm

unkel wrote: »

7kW?

I don't know why anyone would be bothered plugging into that, unless you're going to be there for several hours (3+) anyway

Remember, get 20kWh minimum is the new rule.

In our case it can be hard to find a park in the local shopping centre and the EV spaces almost always have at least one slot, may aswell get a free charge while shopping if even for 45-60 minutes.

Wouldn't drive there especially, wouldn't be worth it but if you are there anyway...

unkel · 16-10-2020 9:50pm

Of course, if yo get better / free parking if you plug in, that's a no brainer. This is not the case with those chargers in Blanchardstown though. Plenty of free parking there anyway.

MJohnston · 16-10-2020 10:54pm

It looks much closer to the entrance than most spaces though (and Blanch can be a pain to find spaces in sometimes).

I’m sure in pre-pandemic times people would easily spend 2+ hours in a shopping centre like that.

unkel · 16-10-2020 11:55pm

Aye, but for someone with home charging, a 2 hour hook up would save them 14kWh * 8c/kWh = roughly just €1

Laviski · 17-10-2020 12:00am

unkel wrote: »

Aye, but for someone with home charging, a 2 hour hook up would save them 14kWh * 8c/kWh = roughly just €1

Stop by mc Donald s for the eurosaver me
Menu.

slave1 · 17-10-2020 12:46am

unkel wrote: »

Aye, but for someone with home charging, a 2 hour hook up would save them 14kWh * 8c/kWh = roughly just €1

It’s not always about the cost savings, hooking up gives more range and the range gained could be the difference between having to stop somewhere for a fast charge and driving straight home

unkel · 17-10-2020 2:07am

slave1 wrote: »

It’s not always about the cost savings, hooking up gives more range and the range gained could be the difference between having to stop somewhere for a fast charge and driving straight home

That might apply to about 2-3% of the visitors to Blanchardstown shopping centre staying there for just 2 hours who need the extra range to make it home

And let's see if those people hooking up now, suddenly don't need to charge to get home anymore once you have to pay for those charge points

MJohnston · 17-10-2020 11:13am

It’s a private charging system as another destination option, I’m not really sure why we should be annoyed about it. It’s not like this is eCars funded.

MJohnston · 17-10-2020 11:18am

Also I think it’s fairly presumptuous to say that only 2-3% of people going to Blanch are staying long. Certainly right now nobody is hanging around but in normal times, there would be plenty wandering about for more than 2 hours. Women mostly, perhaps, but also families. You’d have to drag me there at gunpoint, mind you.

AndyBoBandy · 17-10-2020 11:23am

MJohnston wrote: »

Also I think it’s fairly presumptuous to say that only 2-3% of people going to Blanch are staying long. Certainly right now nobody is hanging around but in normal times, there would be plenty wandering about for more than 2 hours. Women mostly, perhaps, but also families. You’d have to drag me there at gunpoint, mind you.

add to that if your car is outside taking on free juice, you might be more inclined to stay on and have that coffee, or 2nd cup of tea.... i.e. spending more money....

unkel · 17-10-2020 11:50am

MJohnston wrote: »

Also I think it’s fairly presumptuous to say that only 2-3% of people going to Blanch are staying long.

That's not what I claimed. I claimed 2-3% of people going to Blanch staying around 2 hours but not much longer actually need the charge to get home. I'd say I'm not far off

MJohnston · 17-10-2020 5:02pm

unkel wrote: »

That's not what I claimed. I claimed 2-3% of people going to Blanch staying around 2 hours but not much longer actually need the charge to get home. I'd say I'm not far off

Fair enough, your guess is as good as mine on that.

Felexicon · 17-10-2020 5:59pm

unkel wrote: »

That's not what I claimed. I claimed 2-3% of people going to Blanch staying around 2 hours but not much longer actually need the charge to get home. I'd say I'm not far off

2-3% of total people going to Blanch need a charge to get home?
I'd say that's a massive over estimation.

2-3% of EV drivers that go to Blanch?
Probably not far off. Stats for places that have payment for AC charging prove people rarely need it

Gumbo · 19-10-2020 6:00pm

Not active yet for another 2 weeks according to FB Group.
No idea if free to use yet as nobody can confirm who actually owns them.

MJohnston · 20-10-2020 9:08am

Just noticed on Sunday that the chargers at Frascati in Blackrock are also identical to those in Stillorgan and Blanchardstown. And they're also free to use.

AndyBoBandy · 20-10-2020 9:13am

would these all be shopping centre provided chargers to entice customers out and to stay as long as possible (hence 7kW).

Great if so, and long overdue, and will no doubt force the others to offer the same....

....and I know it's hardly worth the effort of plugging in yada yada yada...... but as a carrot to try and entice folks into EV's, it's something. For some folks, a 2-3 hour session on a 7kW could be enough to do them for a week....

MJohnston · 20-10-2020 9:18am

Certainly in Frascati and Stillorgan, the carrot is actually being able to get a parking space.

Black_Knight · 20-10-2020 9:50am

For the Blanchardstown slow chargers:
Blanchardstown Tesco has been fully occupied for 15 minutes over the last 2 days.
Blanchardstown Center for 7 hours over the last 2 days
And Mill road in Blanchardstown village for just under 3 hours over the last 2 days.

The CCS on the fast charger has been in us for over 9 hours over the last 2 days.
The CHAdeMO on the fast charger has been in use for a bit over 8 hours over the last 2 days.
AC43 on the fast charger has been in use for 3 hours over the last 2 days.

I don't have stats on when 1 car is plugged in only, just whether the port type requested is available or otherwise, so the slow charger probably has a lot more use than I am recording.

If that bank of units is free though, it'll be in constant use.

Gumbo · 23-10-2020 10:13am

2x22kw chargers in the new Lidl Ballymun.
EasyGo operated. When I was on site let week before they opened they were not active yet but they do show on the app as available.

unkel · 23-10-2020 10:29am

2x22kw chargers in the new Lidl Shackleton
EasyGo operated. Free of charge for Lidl customers

Was there the day it opened (yesterday). Hadn't spotted them coming in (didn't look for them), after I paid for my shopping at checkout I asked to talk to the manager, who came out to me and I asked her if they were getting car chargers like some other new Lidls. She said they were there and already working. I checked on my way out and indeed they were. Impressed. Well done, Lidl!

AndyBoBandy · 23-10-2020 11:18am

unkel wrote: »

2x22kw chargers in the new Lidl Shackleton
EasyGo operated. Free of charge for Lidl customers

Well done, Lidl!

A definite advantage now over Tesco and their eCars chargers.......

unkel · 23-10-2020 11:42am

Aye. In the first lock down I usually did my big weekly shop in Tesco. Between queuing and shopping that took the guts of 2 hours, which gave me enough electricity for the week (about 40kWh)

In recent months I do my weekly or twice weekly shop in Lidl. And juice up there.

MJohnston · 23-10-2020 12:02pm

My local Tesco is Park Pointe thankfully, so that still wins out for me!

Felexicon · 23-10-2020 4:57pm

Gumbo wrote: »

2x22kw chargers in the new Lidl Ballymun.
EasyGo operated. When I was on site let week before they opened they were not active yet but they do show on the app as available.

They are active and available now

Provided chargers at shops

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