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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • 05-10-2020 6:17pm
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    Sephiroth_dude
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    Previous threads:

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    Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
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    #2
    Oranage2
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    First


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    Beasty
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    Bit slow off the mark there SD:pac:

    We will be needing a new Relaxation of Restrictions thread shortly....


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    Infini
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    froog wrote: »
    NPHET saying ICU beds will reach capacity by Oct 25. this seems to be what drove the level 5 push.

    Jesus thats just 3 weeks away, can't really blame them for recommending lv5 if thats what they're seeing. On the up side at least Dublin's share has dropped off and fallen to a fifth of the share rather than majority but still thats a serious enough concern.


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    Icyseanfitz
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    Have Dublin's numbers dropped much from last week?


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    stephenjmcd
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    https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313163933881176065?s=19


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    Sephiroth_dude
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    Beasty wrote: »
    Bit slow off the mark there SD:pac:

    We will be needing a new Relaxation of Restrictions thread shortly....

    Great minds and all that ;)


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    froog
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    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Have Dublin's numbers dropped much from last week?

    yeah i'm wondering this too. where can i find dublin numbers by day for the last few weeks?


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    Oranage2
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    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Have Dublin's numbers dropped much from last week?

    They haven't dropped at all and in fact still rising though much slower


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    billybonkers
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    So midnight tomorrow then for three weeks


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    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Have Dublin's numbers dropped much from last week?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114833443&postcount=9937

    Rising slowly but pretty flat last few weeks.


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    titan18
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313163933881176065?s=19

    I don't get that. It's not like restaurants and bars can sell all their stock in one day. Especially without breaching the health guidelines


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    Ficheall
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    Beasty wrote: »
    Bit slow off the mark there SD:pac:
    Fight! Fight! Fight!


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    Sephiroth_dude
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    Lets see if this is the fastest thread yet to 10k, if we break the record, the pints are one me!


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    walshb
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    Is the Taoiseach due to address the nation this evening?


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    JP Liz V1
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    Do non pubs close every where for level 3?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    alias no.9
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    walshb wrote: »
    So the mathematical modelling is the L5 reasoning/logic..

    Are they modelling based on the right indicators though? Up until today I was happy to leave it to NPHET but I'm pissed off with this knee jerk level 5 recommendation, so I took a look at the official charts and my jaw dropped. Since they've got a hold on the clusters in the long term residential care facilities, mortality rates have flatlined. Their charts, not mine, I just overlaid them.

    528370.gif

    The resources of the state are best deployed in a strict testing and contact tracing regime in these settings and let everyone else get on with their lives. Cases have been rampant since the lockdown ended, as you'd expect, but mortality rates are trivial when compared to March/April/May.


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    begbysback
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    Just to reiterate what wise words were posted at the ending the previous thread, today is the day we take the reins back off the white coats, we are no longer heading to the point where an immunologist says we can’t step outside our front doors, a great day people.


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    bennyl10
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    begbysback wrote: »
    Just to reiterate what wise words were posted at the ending the previous thread, today is the day we take the reins back off the white coats, we are no longer heading to the point where an immunologist says we can’t step outside our front doors, a great day people.

    Instead of listening to epidemiologist’s we’re listening to people with no clue

    This isn’t a great day at all


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    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    alias no.9 wrote: »
    Are they modelling based on the right indicators though? Up until today I was happy to leave it to NPHET but I'm pissed off with this knee jerk level 5 recommendation, so I took a look at the official charts and my jaw dropped. Since they've got a hold on the clusters in the long term residential care facilities, mortality rates have flatlined. Their charts, not mine, I just overlaid them.

    528370.gif

    The resources of the state are best deployed in a strict testing and contact tracing regime in these settings and let everyone else get on with their lives. Cases have been rampant since the lockdown ended, as you'd expect, but mortality rates are trivial when compared to March/April/May.

    Aren't there 31 active clusters in nursing homes atm? I would consider that having lost control of clusters in long term residential care facilities.


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    SCOOP 64
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    Cant see moving to level 3 having a great impact.


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    Ficheall
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    begbysback wrote: »
    Just to reiterate what wise words were posted at the ending the previous thread, today is the day we take the reins back off the white coats, we are no longer heading to the point where an immunologist says we can’t step outside our front doors, a great day people.
    Well, at least you think you are wise, even if no one else does. An impressive, if misplaced, level of self-confidence.


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    mr_edge_to_you
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    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    Cant see moving to level 3 having a great impact.

    Not a hope. Sure we're at level two already and we can't manage that.


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    alias no.9
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Aren't there 31 active clusters in nursing homes atm? I would consider that having lost control of clusters in long term residential care facilities.

    Meanwhile NPHET are busy trying to lock down the country instead of doing daily tests on all staff, residents and visitors in the at risk locations. In hindsight they ****ed up by not protecting these facilities back in March and it looks like their eyes are elsewhere once again.


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    gmisk
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    Just 39 vacant icu beds is pretty scary...that isn't a huge amount of spare capacity.

    The fact NPHET forecasted 50-70 in icu by 25th October due to covid....

    Level 5 would have been extreme but they aren't taking account the economic impacts I suppose.


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    spookwoman
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    Infini
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    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    Cant see moving to level 3 having a great impact.

    It so far does seem to be flattening the growth rate but daily case numbers arent falling much either. Nationwide I dont know myself if it will require more drastic action but if numbers dont drop at national levels were into lockdown territorry regardless next.


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    stephenjmcd
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    https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313169370336591875?s=19


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    Jim_Hodge
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Do non pubs close every where for level 3?
    Look at the framework
    Range of restrictions
    up to and including
    no indoor dining


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    Gruffalux
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    alias no.9 wrote: »
    . Cases have been rampant since the lockdown ended, as you'd expect, but mortality rates are trivial when compared to March/April/May.

    Cases have not been rampant since the lockdown. This is the false impression upon which people are basing flawed conclusions.


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    drunkmonkey
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Do non pubs close every where for level 3?

    Pubs are open all the Government plan says is in addition to the level 2 restrictions..
    "Range of restrictions
    up to and including
    no indoor dining"

    So wet pubs open but no food:confused:
    https://assets.gov.ie/87604/405b1065-055a-4ca8-9513-390ce5298b10.pdf


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