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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    He handled the Majella Moynihan interview rather well. It needed sensitivity, he needed to handle that interview with care, and he did so.
    So I give him props for that.

    It also highlighted the fact that he can do interviews, and he can be professional. He just doesn't want to.

    I have to disagree. He was at his usual crap of answering questions himself instead of letting her answer. He focused on the less interesting bits, and missed opportunities to ask interesting questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I have to disagree. He was at his usual crap of answering questions himself instead of letting her answer. He focused on the less interesting bits, and missed opportunities to ask interesting questions.

    Oh feel free to disagree, you are completely in your own right to disagree.

    But that interview needed sensitivity, and you could see it was still a sensitive topic for her.
    So I think he had to lay off the harder questions (it's in the book, so I'm sure she doesn't want to repeat the story).

    The questions were absent, but he was sensitive, and when she was getting really upset, he steered things to make sure it didn't upset her.

    It was a tricky interview, but he got enough questions to be a decent interview. The sensitivity which he handled it made it a good interview.
    Not perfect, but better than his other ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Oh feel free to disagree, you are completely in your own right to disagree.

    But that interview needed sensitivity, and you could see it was still a sensitive topic for her.
    So I think he had to lay off the harder questions (it's in the book, so I'm sure she doesn't want to repeat the story).

    The questions were absent, but he was sensitive, and when she was getting really upset, he steered things to make sure it didn't upset her.

    It was a tricky interview, but he got enough questions to be a decent interview. The sensitivity which he handled it made it a good interview.
    Not perfect, but better than his other ones.

    I always felt Pat Kenny was better at doing that type of interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    I always felt Pat Kenny was better at doing that type of interview.

    Oh he was. Pat got slagged a lot, back in the day, but he could do the on one interviews. Was Legit really good at sensitive topics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    The Irish Times has reported last week that ABP have granted planning permission to Cairn Homes to build the 611 apartments on part of the RTÉ Montrose site which is the current home of the RTÉ Radio Centre.

    There were about 19 objections lodged against the development including one from Pat Desmond; wife of Dermot Desmond.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Not perfect, but better than his other ones.

    Agreed, but it's a low bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,185 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Matmania wrote: »
    Rte doing some survey on how people think of them. Its costing 400k appox. Value for money.

    Are you serious? Is there a link to this news report?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Are you serious? Is there a link to this news report?

    €450,000 pa, they’ve being spending it every year since 2006. Complete waste of money. Reported in independent last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I would hope RTE are gone in 20 years. They've certainly hung around like a bad smell for too long...

    But the pessimist in me says they're the government's lapdog, handy to spin positive information when they need it-faster than print or digital media can, and in a much faster dissemination of material.

    So no matter what it costs to fund RTE, they'll allow them to keep going-probably with a license fee increase or that 'broadcasting fee' aka a tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,185 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Elmo wrote: »
    €450,000 pa, they’ve being spending it every year since 2006. Complete waste of money. Reported in independent last week.

    That is frigging ridiculous - funding a survey to see if they are appreciated and if the findings go against them I would be pretty sure they don't release it
    Like the other survey last week or the week before that gave RTE a glowing recommendation
    I'm sure such surveys will be used for more funding without any accountability as to the accuracy or bias of such surverys

    When a company has to pay money to justify themselves you know there is something very corrupt about the company

    Should be split up without further hesitation and have a purely single tv station providing local programming and a few radio stations funded by the licence fee. Even the number of radio stations they have for such a tiny country is ridiculous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Anyone rather annoyed by how much RTE keep hyping up the Late Late Xmas show?

    They've been doing it since July, at least... are they really struck by how absolutely dreadful their programming has become that they have to hype this up?


  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone rather annoyed by how much RTE keep hyping up the Late Late Xmas show?

    They've been doing it since July, at least... are they really struck by how absolutely dreadful their programming has become that they have to hype this up?

    Annoyed? Annoyed??

    Yes, count me in. In my opinion it is utterly ridiculous. Ryan is trying to turn it into his raison d'être, presumably to carve out his role as the Toyman (adding to his desire to become the Nation’s Conscience in his sermonising on the LLS). The “teasers” on the RTÉ website are cringeworthy. Such as;
    Late Late host Ryan Turbidly has revealed that he already knows what costume he will wear and what song he will be singing on this year’s top secret Toy Show, adding that it will lead to "some goofy looking scenarios".

    The annual toy extravaganza is one of the most watched and anticipated shows on Irish television and Tubridy has made it his own since he took over as Late Late host - but this year’s Toy Show comes with the added pressure of coping with Covid-19 and keeping the studio and children safe.

    "The children of Ireland have had a tough time of late and they deserve a big night out so we are working our damnest to make that happen."

    47-year-old Tubridy, who will begin his twelfth year as host of the Late Late when the show returns to RTÉ One on September 4, said, "I had a costume check last Monday for the Toy Show so I know what character I’m going to be, I know exactly song we’re going to be singing - or `singing’ in my case, I know exactly what the theme of the programme is."

    It’s about Ryan. Not the kids. And certainly not the toys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,025 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The Toy Show is a misnomer anyway.

    The last few years watching it my kids have said "why isn't there more toys on it".

    I think Ryan has done well in turning it away from the toys and about the show itself, the music etc. And his own self-created tag of "Toy Man" is going pretty well for him, helped along by his fellow RTE employees.


    As for that €400k survey, if its been getting done for many years now, how come this is the 1st time I remember them presenting the data to us in such a high profile manner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Give RTE some credit...don't forget that if it wasn't for the Toy Show, RTE wouldn't have the Commodore 64 they're using to run the RTE Player
    https://www.rte.ie/archives/2018/1127/1013656-computers-tomorrows-world/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    NIMAN wrote: »
    As for that €400k survey, if its been getting done for many years now, how come this is the 1st time I remember them presenting the data to us in such a high profile manner?

    The Indo and Mirror reports saw the etenders from RTÉ and reported that RTÉ are looking for a new company to carry out the work. RTÉ possible answered a question from the journalist stating "that this work has been going on since 2006, and really why change?"

    I don't think the results are ever released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    A friend of mine is a camera woman in RTE. She herself admits to being a massive beneficiary of the RTE gravy train but she herself admits how self serving and unsustainable it is.

    She told me that the camera men and women sometimes refused to go on extra training and as a result RTE had to hire contractors to film events such as the Eurovision at a far higher cost. It's certainly fair to question the salary of presenters, but we also need to look at camera men, producers and all of the other employees and policies of RTE to see where the majority of waste is going.

    Unsurprisingly she also told me that a lot of the cameramen and women got hired because of who they knew or were related to. She was an exception in this regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    A friend of mine is a camera woman in RTE. She herself admits to being a massive beneficiary of the RTE gravy train but she herself admits how self serving and unsustainable it is.

    She told me that the camera men and women sometimes refused to go on extra training and as a result RTE had to hire contractors to film events such as the Eurovision at a far higher cost. It's certainly fair to question the salary of presenters, but we also need to look at camera men, producers and all of the other employees and policies of RTE to see where the majority of waste is going.

    Unsurprisingly she also told me that a lot of the cameramen and women got hired because of who they knew or were related to. She was an exception in this regard.

    Question do they get extra for early morning and late night? And also for June, July & august?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Elmo wrote: »
    Question do they get extra for early morning and late night? And also for June, July & august?

    She got a lot of overtime and mentioned that some of the shooting time was done on very weird hours. There was huge amounts of overtime on offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Anyone rather annoyed by how much RTE keep hyping up the Late Late Xmas show?

    They've been doing it since July, at least... are they really struck by how absolutely dreadful their programming has become that they have to hype this up?

    July? Tubs has mentioned it at least a couple of times a week since January, and almost daily since June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    July? Tubs has mentioned it at least a couple of times a week since January, and almost daily since June.

    I can understand in January, because post holidays come-down.

    But June and July is just taking the proverbial P.

    It's like he's saying 'stay with us thru this absolute s**Tshow of a program, cos it gets better for one night in December'... but it doesn't.
    And he's been doing that for the last few years, not just recently, with the lockdown.

    (Even TV3's Six O'Clock show has had a more varied, and famous, guest list than the LLS).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I dont know how anyone could contribute to Ryan Tubridys salary and feel proud of themselves...

    Hence, i dont pay the Licence Fee....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I dont know how anyone could contribute to Ryan Tubridys salary and feel proud of themselves...

    Hence, i dont pay the Licence Fee....

    If this was an episode of QI, the claxon would be sounding.

    Standby for an explanation of how no licence fee money goes into radio.

    *puts hand over ears*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I left Ireland a few years ago so I may be out of touch but was RTE's secret producer found out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I left Ireland a few years ago so I may be out of touch but was RTE's secret producer found out?

    If they were RTÉ didn't say so, they have since stopped tweeting. Which reminds me one of only two accounts to block me the other being The Six O'Clock Show :rolleyes:

    They block me because I told them that much of what they were saying was pretty much in the public domain and I didn't believe they worked for RTÉ.

    (I found out about the low audience figures for the Seven O'Clock show and tag them in the message :rolleyes: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Elmo wrote: »
    If they were RTÉ didn't say so, they have since stopped tweeting. Which reminds me one of only two accounts to block me the other being The Six O'Clock Show :rolleyes:

    They block me because I told them that much of what they were saying was pretty much in the public domain and I didn't believe they worked for RTÉ.

    (I found out about the low audience figures for the Seven O'Clock show and tag them in the message :rolleyes: )

    Mr. Joseph Duffy blocked me for reminding him that he said Covid couldn’t come here because we’re an island......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Elmo wrote: »

    They block me because I told them that much of what they were saying was pretty much in the public domain and I didn't believe they worked for RTÉ.

    I am reading over a complied list of the Secret producer and now I think I could be wrong

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/719cv4/ive_compiled_all_the_tweets_from_secret_rt%C3%A9/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Marcos


    I can understand in January, because post holidays come-down.

    But June and July is just taking the proverbial P.

    It's like he's saying 'stay with us thru this absolute s**Tshow of a program, cos it gets better for one night in December'... but it doesn't.
    And he's been doing that for the last few years, not just recently, with the lockdown.

    (Even TV3's Six O'Clock show has had a more varied, and famous, guest list than the LLS).

    I think the LLS should be sponsored by Noel Kelly Management. You could nearly play bingo marking off how many of the "talent" appear on it. :rolleyes:

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Mr. Joseph Duffy blocked me for reminding him that he said Covid couldn’t come here because we’re an island......

    Joe Duffy is overpaid and incompetent. I take it you're aware of the Joe Duffy soundboard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Joe Duffy is overpaid and incompetent. I take it you're aware of the Joe Duffy soundboard?

    Won't he have to be pushed out soon? He's near the retirement age, RTE have a 'retire at 65'... so won't he be out in a few months?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,185 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Won't he have to be pushed out soon? He's near the retirement age, RTE have a 'retire at 65'... so won't he be out in a few months?

    He's a contractor so no


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