Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Yeah there was some doctor in Morning Ireland on my drive in and true to form, the line kept dropping. It would be very rare that i'd be on on a call and it would be breaking up or dropping altogether but in RTE its a daily occurrence.

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

They are really taking the piss with the RTE 'we tell truth' stuff, 'trust RTE for your news' agenda. There's a bang of a PR company being employed there to promote this sh!t.

You want to tell us the truth RTE?

*Tell us the salaries/fees of everyone in RTE.
*Tell us how Noel Kelly management has managed to get such a hold of your staff/contractors.
*Send the RTE investigates crew into Rathkeale and find out what is really going on there.

Just looking for a bit of truth there RTE.

Truth matters.

Their Ministry of Truth campaign is truly Orwellian.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me if there was a rodent problem at the site. Folks I know who used to work at RTE, especially at their last HQ, said there's a serious issue with rodents at the RTE Dept.
(And no, this is not a joke aimed at the staff of RTE, I mean actual mice and rats).

Another issue was a leaky roof. Everytime it rained, buckets were swiftly placed around the studio.

Wouldn't be surprised RTÉ have failed to maintain their leafy D4 offices and studios, the Radio studio looks like its been bombed, I haven't seen such a messy office before, with blinds mis-drawn or not working or on the ground, complete pigsty.

I can't imagine the polling company hired by RTE will be too scathing of RTE.

Godeatsboogers wrote: »

Why cant they be honest about it and call it what it is, a t.v tax. Is the V.A.T on TVs not enough money out of our pockets.

You possibly wouldn't sell enough TV's for it to be enough. The Tax should be taken from your subscriptions. A 6% tax on all broadband, mobile phones and telephony would get you to 200m pa, you might even reduce it down to 2% - 3% if you add all media subscriptions (netflix, amazon prime etc). And also include business it could be 1% of the VAT that is applied. (no refund to businesses on this 1%)

McGaggs wrote: »

What do broadband and phones have to do with rte? This tax should be on subscriptions to services that carry rte services (Sky, Virgin TV, eir TV, etc.). Netflix, Amazon Prime and the likes don't carry rte services, and I would argue that people who pay these subs don't consume rte output.

I am suggesting that you put it on Three's subs also even though they don't provide a TV or content package. You put the tax across all telecomunications companies across both retail and business bills, that it comes from VAT on those products.

It would pay for both RTÉ, TG4 and the NCO.

There's a large idea to provide better funding to content.

Break RTÉ into 5 parts
- RTÉ - RTÉ ONE, RTE ONE +1, RADIO 1, RTE GOLD, RTE RADIO ONE EXTRA, LYRIC FM, RTÉ NEWS NOW
- NTR - RTÉ TWO, RTÉ2 +1, 2FM, 2XM, PULSE
- TnaG - TG4, RnaG, CnaG's radio services, Irish Film Board Channel, RTÉjr, Cula4
- Networks and Studio - Donnybrook campus and 2RN
- National Music Groups - merged with the NCH.

RTÉ to be the national public service broadcaster
NTR to be run commercially, no funding, sold if possible
TnaG to be the national Irish Language, Children's and Film Broadcaster

RTÉ and TnaG would support their new output both would get the same amount of funding from the license fee, with no exchequer funding going to TG4 (allowing increase with film (not all in Irish/ majority in English) and Children's programming to gain €20 million each in funding, 40m~ to Irish language content, including radio)

Sound and Vision fund to be run by the IFB 7.5% of the licence fee
National Music Groups and NCH also get 7.5%

Better services for all.

I had a workmate who worked on the construction of the RTÉ studios as an apprentice in the early sixties,
All the office furniture was handcrafted mahogany & oak.
One of the craftsmen installing the furniture was offered a full time job maintaining the furniture as it was prone to swelling & shrinking due to the air conditioning.
One of his favourite cries on entering an office was to enquire who had the sticky drawers,
He didn’t last too long!

TomTomTim wrote: »

As someone currently searching for a new job, the amount of companies who mention stuff about diversity and inclusion before anything else is sickening. It has little to nothing to do with ones ability to preform, yet it's front and center for many companies.

It's Tokenism, but for the majority of companies, it's 'proof' they're pushing for diversity. (It means nothing-like the whole 'equal pay' thing, such as when a company comes out with their 'we promote equal pay'. There are laws requiring equal pay. Almost every country has equal pay acts. It's meaningless to state that.)

In reality, it's best person for the job. Companies don't want to lose money, they need someone with skill and talent.

Elmo wrote: »

I am suggesting that you put it on Three's subs also even though they don't provide a TV or content package. You put the tax across all telecomunications companies across both retail and business bills, that it comes from VAT on those products.

It would pay for both RTÉ, TG4 and the NCO.

There's a large idea to provide better funding to content.

Break RTÉ into 5 parts
- RTÉ - RTÉ ONE, RTE ONE +1, RADIO 1, RTE GOLD, RTE RADIO ONE EXTRA, LYRIC FM, RTÉ NEWS NOW
- NTR - RTÉ TWO, RTÉ2 +1, 2FM, 2XM, PULSE
- TnaG - TG4, RnaG, CnaG's radio services, Irish Film Board Channel, RTÉjr, Cula4
- Networks and Studio - Donnybrook campus and 2RN
- National Music Groups - merged with the NCH.

RTÉ to be the national public service broadcaster
NTR to be run commercially, no funding, sold if possible
TnaG to be the national Irish Language, Children's and Film Broadcaster

RTÉ and TnaG would support their new output both would get the same amount of funding from the license fee, with no exchequer funding going to TG4 (allowing increase with film (not all in Irish/ majority in English) and Children's programming to gain €20 million each in funding, 40m~ to Irish language content, including radio)

Sound and Vision fund to be run by the IFB 7.5% of the licence fee
National Music Groups and NCH also get 7.5%

Better services for all.

Interesting proposals for restructuring there, would you consider funding them from direct taxation ?

That way no collection costs and no evasion.

Elmo wrote: »

No there is already too much political interference with the license fee The BAI and ComReg should set the license fee. Though I am suggesting it comes from VAT on communications/media consumption.

Currently the Minister for Media can set the licence fee, can reduce exchequre funding to TG4 and then give it some of the licence fee to avoid a cut and set the number of minutes of ads on public service broadcasters, and decide on proposed services that RTÉ/TG4 can have. (All have some oversight.).

Perhaps with proper checks and balances put in place to prevent political interference general taxation funding would be a more versatile method.

How much is raised by VAT on communications/media consumption?

Could it be at risk by future changes in the structure of the industry?

elperello wrote: »

Perhaps with proper checks and balances put in place to prevent political interference general taxation funding would be a more versatile method.

How much is raised by VAT on communications/media consumption?

Could it be at risk by future changes in the structure of the industry?

based on comregs quarterly reports 600m is earned, so up 550m pa???

Checks and balances from the BAI.

Before ye start I have no interest in giving RTÉ or any other public service broadcaster all of that 550m, not even half of it.

steddyeddy wrote: »

I remember Ryan Tubridy interviewing the son of Tom Gilmartin, a businessman who had been threatened and asked for bribes by Fianna Fáil politicians. You could see Ryan was uncomfortable questioning the man and didn't really probe deep into the huge allegations being made. Then I remembered that Tubridy is related to several Fianna Fáil politicians. How can he be objective when his relatives likely benefited from corruption?

Tubridy's notoriously uncomfortable when questioning anyone of serious credibility (hence why we see so many Z listers on the show now).

When he did get to interview someone of note (Sean Spicer, Trump's former spokesperson) it seemed like an easy, 'Got 'im!' kind of interview.

Instead, folks were like 'dang, Spicer's kind of a nice guy'... but that particular episode turned into a trainwreck. We had the infamous 'bin' segment...

And when he interviewed Liam Neeson (who has admitted he hates doing interview) and managed to turn him into a villain of the week over comments he made.

Elmo wrote: »

Tub's is bored has been for the last ten years, he's no interest in anything but his pay cheque, like everyone else!

He handled the Majella Moynihan interview rather well. It needed sensitivity, he needed to handle that interview with care, and he did so.
So I give him props for that.

It also highlighted the fact that he can do interviews, and he can be professional. He just doesn't want to.

He sort of approaches things as 'I'm the most intelligent person in the room'... which he clearly isn't.

If you compare him to Gay Byrne, or Tommy Tiernan, they genuinely listen to their interivewees.
And they keep that energy for the whole show.

I swear, Tommy Tiernan's interview with Nathan Carter was like something Gay Byrne would have done in his heyday.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

He handled the Majella Moynihan interview rather well. It needed sensitivity, he needed to handle that interview with care, and he did so.
So I give him props for that.

It also highlighted the fact that he can do interviews, and he can be professional. He just doesn't want to.

I have to disagree. He was at his usual crap of answering questions himself instead of letting her answer. He focused on the less interesting bits, and missed opportunities to ask interesting questions.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Oh feel free to disagree, you are completely in your own right to disagree.

But that interview needed sensitivity, and you could see it was still a sensitive topic for her.
So I think he had to lay off the harder questions (it's in the book, so I'm sure she doesn't want to repeat the story).

The questions were absent, but he was sensitive, and when she was getting really upset, he steered things to make sure it didn't upset her.

It was a tricky interview, but he got enough questions to be a decent interview. The sensitivity which he handled it made it a good interview.
Not perfect, but better than his other ones.

I always felt Pat Kenny was better at doing that type of interview.

The Irish Times has reported last week that ABP have granted planning permission to Cairn Homes to build the 611 apartments on part of the RTÉ Montrose site which is the current home of the RTÉ Radio Centre.

There were about 19 objections lodged against the development including one from Pat Desmond; wife of Dermot Desmond.

Matmania wrote: »

Rte doing some survey on how people think of them. Its costing 400k appox. Value for money.

Are you serious? Is there a link to this news report?

I would hope RTE are gone in 20 years. They've certainly hung around like a bad smell for too long...

But the pessimist in me says they're the government's lapdog, handy to spin positive information when they need it-faster than print or digital media can, and in a much faster dissemination of material.

So no matter what it costs to fund RTE, they'll allow them to keep going-probably with a license fee increase or that 'broadcasting fee' aka a tax.

Anyone rather annoyed by how much RTE keep hyping up the Late Late Xmas show?

They've been doing it since July, at least... are they really struck by how absolutely dreadful their programming has become that they have to hype this up?

The Toy Show is a misnomer anyway.

The last few years watching it my kids have said "why isn't there more toys on it".

I think Ryan has done well in turning it away from the toys and about the show itself, the music etc. And his own self-created tag of "Toy Man" is going pretty well for him, helped along by his fellow RTE employees.


As for that €400k survey, if its been getting done for many years now, how come this is the 1st time I remember them presenting the data to us in such a high profile manner?

NIMAN wrote: »

As for that €400k survey, if its been getting done for many years now, how come this is the 1st time I remember them presenting the data to us in such a high profile manner?

The Indo and Mirror reports saw the etenders from RTÉ and reported that RTÉ are looking for a new company to carry out the work. RTÉ possible answered a question from the journalist stating "that this work has been going on since 2006, and really why change?"

I don't think the results are ever released.

steddyeddy wrote: »

A friend of mine is a camera woman in RTE. She herself admits to being a massive beneficiary of the RTE gravy train but she herself admits how self serving and unsustainable it is.

She told me that the camera men and women sometimes refused to go on extra training and as a result RTE had to hire contractors to film events such as the Eurovision at a far higher cost. It's certainly fair to question the salary of presenters, but we also need to look at camera men, producers and all of the other employees and policies of RTE to see where the majority of waste is going.

Unsurprisingly she also told me that a lot of the cameramen and women got hired because of who they knew or were related to. She was an exception in this regard.

Question do they get extra for early morning and late night? And also for June, July & august?