Should Berlin in Dame St be closed down?

dotsman · 24-09-2020 11:36PM

Personally, I think they should be compensated for all the BS vitriol that was aimed at them.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 25-09-2020 10:38AM

dotsman wrote: »

Personally, I think they should be compensated for all the BS vitriol that was aimed at them.

I'm sure they wouldn't reject a personal donation from yourself in lieu of compensation.

Grayditch · 25-09-2020 11:02AM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

I'm sure they wouldn't reject a personal donation from yourself in lieu of compensation.

Great idea.

dotsman · 25-09-2020 11:40AM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

I'm sure they wouldn't reject a personal donation from yourself in lieu of compensation.

Grayditch wrote: »

Great idea.

Compensation is paid by those who have wronged the victim

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 25-09-2020 12:05PM

dotsman wrote: »

Compensation is paid by those who have wronged the victim

You really need to question your own perspective if you think Berlin are the victims here.

Nobody put a gun to their (staff, owners) heads and said act the maggot or else.

They have an obligation to act in a responsible manner and they failed.

whisky_galore · 25-09-2020 12:24PM

dotsman wrote: »

Personally, I think they should be compensated for all the BS vitriol that was aimed at them.

Lol.

dotsman · 25-09-2020 02:27PM

Steyr 556 wrote: »

You really need to question your own perspective if you think Berlin are the victims here.

Nobody put a gun to their (staff, owners) heads and said act the maggot or else.

They have an obligation to act in a responsible manner and they failed.

But they did act responsibly (in general) and didn't act the maggot.

They offered people a way to socialise relatively safely, and far safer than a house party. This included socially distanced, clean tables with table service.

In giving out the "free shot", the barman had people come up to the him and he would pour it into their mouth. This went on for a few minutes, with people coming up in ones and two's.

Was it the best way to handle it? No.
But was it very dangerous? No.

It looked bad, but that is all. But it has been blown completely out of proportion, and taken completely out of context by the curtain-twitching, holier-than-thou mob. Everyone in the pub that day was in a far safer environment than if they had been at a house party, which is what they would have been doing otherwise. And rather than scream bloody murder, anybody who is actually interested in getting this country back on it's feet would be focused on simply giving the barman a tap on the should (not literally;)) and explain how he could have done it better.

As we see this pandemic worsen again, a huge part of the reason for that is the anti-pub, anti-everything hysterical mob that are running amok. After the initial lock-down, we were supposed to re-open the country in a safe way. Rather than doing that, we have allowed these people run the country into the ground and drive poor behaviour.

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 02:47PM

dotsman wrote: »

But they did act responsibly (in general) and didn't act the maggot.

They offered people a way to socialise relatively safely, and far safer than a house party. This included socially distanced, clean tables with table service.

In giving out the "free shot", the barman had people come up to the him and he would pour it into their mouth. This went on for a few minutes, with people coming up in ones and two's.
Was it the best way to handle it? No.

But was it very dangerous? No.

It looked bad, but that is all. But it has been blown completely out of proportion, and taken completely out of context by the curtain-twitching, holier-than-thou mob. Everyone in the pub that day was in a far safer environment than if they had been at a house party, which is what they would have been doing otherwise. And rather than scream bloody murder, anybody who is actually interested in getting this country back on it's feet would be focused on simply giving the barman a tap on the should (not literally;)) and explain how he could have done it better.

As we see this pandemic worsen again, a huge part of the reason for that is the anti-pub, anti-everything hysterical mob that are running amok. After the initial lock-down, we were supposed to re-open the country in a safe way. Rather than doing that, we have allowed these people run the country into the ground and drive poor behaviour.

There is no hysterical mob, anti pub anti everything, just a bunch of cretins thinking the laws are for them, not others.

The only ones running amok were the stults in the Berlin Bar and that idiot of a barman.

Hope they get closed down and debarred from holding a drink licence.

At least the compliant bar owners might feel justified.

You have’nt a leg to stand on ,pal.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 25-09-2020 03:02PM

dotsman wrote: »

But they did act responsibly (in general) and didn't act the maggot.

They offered people a way to socialise relatively safely, and far safer than a house party. This included socially distanced, clean tables with table service.

In giving out the "free shot", the barman had people come up to the him and he would pour it into their mouth. This went on for a few minutes, with people coming up in ones and two's.
Was it the best way to handle it? No.

But was it very dangerous? No.

It looked bad, but that is all. But it has been blown completely out of proportion, and taken completely out of context by the curtain-twitching, holier-than-thou mob. Everyone in the pub that day was in a far safer environment than if they had been at a house party, which is what they would have been doing otherwise. And rather than scream bloody murder, anybody who is actually interested in getting this country back on it's feet would be focused on simply giving the barman a tap on the should (not literally;)) and explain how he could have done it better.

As we see this pandemic worsen again, a huge part of the reason for that is the anti-pub, anti-everything hysterical mob that are running amok. After the initial lock-down, we were supposed to re-open the country in a safe way. Rather than doing that, we have allowed these people run the country into the ground and drive poor behaviour.

They acted the maggot and it is poor excuses at best which you've provided. Who is to say that the people who were at Berlin would have attended house parties if the venue wasn't open? There was little social distancing on display in the video I've seen and I've read witness accounts of people leaving because they felt unsafe with the complete disregard to social distancing taking place.

If we know that the virus can be spread by aerosols and droplets from the human body, how sensible is it to pour liquids directly into open mouths of multiple people?

What has happened is the antics at Berlin have badly tarnished the reputation of pubs across the country, and the government is less likely to trust them to operate responsible and must be seen to tough now and close pubs as soon as infection rates get too high.

Which is a massive shame because I believe the vast majority of pubs do conduct themselves soundly and didn't allow things to spiral out of control.

What has Berlin cost the pubs nationally by letting those antics carry on? A spectacular own goal.

growleaves · 25-09-2020 04:37PM

The only ones running amok were the stults in the Berlin Bar and that idiot of a barman

What's a stult?

celt262 · 25-09-2020 04:41PM

growleaves wrote: »

What's a stult?

Sluts?

endacl · 25-09-2020 04:41PM

growleaves wrote: »

What's a stult?

A dyslexic slut?

dxhound2005 · 25-09-2020 04:42PM

Past tense of stilt.

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 04:44PM

growleaves wrote: »

What's a stult?

Whatever you think such a churn is dude.

For me it’s an arsehole who doesn’t give a fuuherke about anybody but themselves.

Yeh.... that would cover it.

AlanG · 25-09-2020 04:49PM

dotsman wrote: »

In giving out the "free shot", the barman had people come up to the him and he would pour it into their mouth. This went on for a few minutes, with people coming up in ones and two's.
.

Free pouring spirits alone is grounds for a pub to lose its license - this venue doesn't even have a pub license and they were distributing drinks in a way that is completely illegal in Ireland and leave the pub open to massive legal liability risks.

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 05:04PM

AlanG wrote: »

Free pouring spirits alone is grounds for a pub to lose its license - this venue doesn't even have a pub license and they were distributing drinks in a way that is completely illegal in Ireland and leave the pub open to massive legal liability risks.

Hopefully it will Al.

These stults who think they can laugh at the people working their butts off to care for victims of Covid need to realise that the taxpayer won’t tolerate that fcukkery.

Smooth stults wearing scarves won’t tell the taxpayer how to manage the current pandemic, they got a a bit of a little bag kick coming up.

And rightly so.

Richard Hillman · 25-09-2020 05:07PM

Gardaí objected to a licence renewal a few weeks ago for pub in Mayo that were ignoring the guidelines. The Court said that they have 2 months to get their act together.
https://www.mayonews.ie/news/35814-gardai-object-to-achill-pub-licence-for-alleged-covid-breaches

Gardai can't just go around whipping licences off people for obscure reasons. A few people went to the bar instead of table service and the server pour the drink in their mouths and not a glass. There isn't a court in the land that will be removing their licence for such petty issues.

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 05:09PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Gardaí objected to a licence renewal a few weeks ago for pub in Mayo that were ignoring the guidelines. The Court said that they have 2 months to get their act together.
https://www.mayonews.ie/news/35814-gardai-object-to-achill-pub-licence-for-alleged-covid-breaches

Gardai can't just go around whipping licences off people for obscure reasons. A few people went to the bar instead of table service and the server pour the drink in their mouths and not a glass. There isn't a court in the land that will be removing their licence for such petty issues.

Let’s wait and see, my friend.

growleaves · 25-09-2020 05:12PM

Feckin stults.

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 05:35PM

growleaves wrote: »

Feckin stults.

Well if you want to be gamed by a bunch of stults, and you are happy to have your taxes used to clean up after them.........babe ...who am I to stop you.

This poster doesn’t see things that way, pardon me for that, my friend.

But if you’re happy to be gamed............fire ahead Growser.

growleaves · 25-09-2020 05:40PM

I'm being gamed by the stults? Babe I game the stults they pay me taxes. What you talking about?

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 05:49PM

growleaves wrote: »

I'm being gamed by the stults? Babe I game the stults they pay me taxes. What you talking about?

Hmm... the auld ‘gormless’ defence.

Lookit dude, bone up on the issues or leave the thread to those who know what’s goin’ on.

Quantum Erasure · 25-09-2020 05:55PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Past tense of stilt.

Like Brendan said, they haven't a leg to stand on.....

Quantum Erasure · 25-09-2020 05:58PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Whatever you think such a churn is dude.
For me it’s an arsehole who doesn’t give a fuuherke about anybody but themselves.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Smooth stults wearing scarves won’t tell the taxpayer how to manage the current pandemic, they got a a bit of a little bag kick coming up.

Nope, you've lost me again

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 06:33PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Nope, you've lost me again

No worries, go back to a vanilla thread or maybe a baking issue.

You seem more at home there, leave this one for the big boys.

EmmetSpiceland · 25-09-2020 06:49PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

You seem more at home there, leave this one for the big boys.

The ones in the “comfort fit” chinos, with the balloon seat, B?

Brendan Bendar · 25-09-2020 06:53PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The ones in the “comfort fit” chinos, with the balloon seat, B?

Whatever clown suit suits him, Eee.

He’s out of his depth on this thread.....

Maybe a wet suit and snorkel.

Stay at the paddling end is this posters advice.

Don’t get in over your head..!

applies to everyone ...:D

Edgware · 25-09-2020 07:18PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No worries, go back to a vanilla thread or maybe a baking issue.

You seem more at home there, leave this one for the big boys.

Ooooh Matron!

dotsman · 25-09-2020 08:15PM

AlanG wrote: »

Free pouring spirits alone is grounds for a pub to lose its license - this venue doesn't even have a pub license and they were distributing drinks in a way that is completely illegal in Ireland and leave the pub open to massive legal liability risks.

I bet you were a lot of fun when you were young

IAMAMORON · 25-09-2020 08:23PM

I think it is gas that this happened weeks ago, there were no resulting spikes and yet everyone still wants their pound of flesh.

Far too much of that attitude floating around. Finger pointing and looking for blame hounds.

If they don't get their license renewed they can reapply. I am pretty sure I know who leases the place, he has a few boozers on the go.

This country is very reactive and snappy. Not good , it needs to chill the fug out.

I am just back from the offie in Dunnes. Bottle of Powers and a slab of Stout.
Operation lockdown is in effect, starting as soon as I press submit.

Ich bin ein Berliner.

Should Berlin in Dame St be closed down?

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