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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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    #7802
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Poor old Joe. I'm wondering what the excuses will be in a few weeks time when he loses. The reality is the Democrats will have only themselves to blame. An open goal running against Trump and this is the best they can provide.

    Biden still well ahead in the polls, and with a wave of countries heading back to lockdowns over the next 3 weeks, not much time for Trump to claim it's over, and make some gains, only chance for Trump now is he wins the debates somehow:
    https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

    Think about it, if they were confident of winning, they wouldn't be pushing on getting a new SCOTUS in place so quickly.

    Looking at the polling, it looks mostly like a revert to 2008/2012 Obama polling with a few oddities like Texas being in the mix. Wisconsin will probably be the bellwether of it all.


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    #7803
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Poor old Joe. I'm wondering what the excuses will be in a few weeks time when he loses. The reality is the Democrats will have only themselves to blame. An open goal running against Trump and this is the best they can provide.

    Joe will be classey and accept defeat. No doubt he will thank his supporters upon conceding unlike Hillary. I do fear there will be riots from the same people who have done so over the past few months only much, much worse.


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    #7804
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    What :pac::pac:

    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1307752575354261505


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    #7805
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,275 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    This is just embarrassing now 200m dead lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmcxW_-uA0

    The Democrats need to put a stop to this.

    The guy would have trouble running a lemonade stand never mind a country.
    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    What :pac::pac:

    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1307752575354261505

    I see today's talking points have been distributed.


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    #7806
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,445 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I see today's talking points have been distributed.

    Same posters, same tactics, no substance as usual. Maybe tomorrow they will post something that wasn't talked about and explained 12 hours previously.


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    #7807
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    He lies to their face and they cheer. Trump supporters are beyond redemption. (In case you missed it there are two teleprompters in front of him)

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    #7808
    extra gravy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,624 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Same posters, same tactics, no substance as usual. Maybe tomorrow they will post something that wasn't talked about and explained 12 hours previously.

    I just report those posts now as they don't contribute anything worthwhile to the thread. Different day, same old rubbish.


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    #7809
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    You've posted doctored videos, and not responded when called out on it. You haven't said a word about Trump's town hall.

    I'd be interested in your thoughts in both of those things.
    1800_Ladladlad, post from a while ago. Notice you've been posting in the thread since.


    Why were you posting doctored videos of Biden? What do you think of Trump's town hall from last week?


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    #7810
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    What :pac::pac:

    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1307752575354261505

    By the end this speech no less :pac: Good old Joe. It's hard not to dislike him as he's obviously losing his marbles up top but how funny is it this guy is running for president :confused:


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    #7811
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    By the end this speech no less :pac: Good old Joe. It's hard not to dislike him as he's obviously losing his marbles up top but how funny is it this guy is running for president :confused:

    Did Trump not say they were sending an astronaut to “Nars” a few days ago?


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    #7812
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Did Trump not say they were sending an astronaut to “Nars” a few days ago?

    Also called himself Donald Prump over the weekend. You can see the moment he has a brain glitch and has to reset.

    .

    This actually happens quite often with Trump. Very strange.


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    #7813
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,275 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Also called himself Donald Prump over the weekend. You can see the moment he has a brain glitch and has to reset.

    .

    This actually happens quite often with Trump. Very strange.

    He sounds pissed.


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    #7814
    Wanderer78
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    Cody montana wrote:
    Did Trump not say they were sending an astronaut to “Nars†a few days ago?


    Apparently he said something about disinfectant a few months ago, or something, I'm not really sure though, as I don't pay attention to him at all, there's no point really, tis only a waste of time


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    #7815
    threeball
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    He sounds pissed.

    He claims to be tee total but he sounds like he's sauced most of the time. Like a rambling drunk in a pub. Either that or all the cocaine has melted the few braincells he ever had.


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    #7816
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,275 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    threeball wrote: »
    He claims to be tee total but he sounds like he's sauced most of the time. Like a rambling drunk in a pub. Either that or all the cocaine has melted the few braincells he ever had.

    maybe his adderall was wearing off.


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    #7817
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    threeball wrote: »
    He claims to be tee total but he sounds like he's sauced most of the time. Like a rambling drunk in a pub. Either that or all the cocaine has melted the few braincells he ever had.

    I think it's loose dentures and age.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #7818
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Also called himself Donald Prump over the weekend. You can see the moment he has a brain glitch and has to reset.

    .

    This actually happens quite often with Trump. Very strange.

    He got his own name wrong!
    I’m fairness, I chuckled a bit at that.


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    #7819
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Biden is looking increasingly lost and confused up there. It would be the decent thing to do for the Democrats to have a word with him and have him step aside. He's an alright guy and deserves better than being made look so pathetic infront of the camera.

    I fear for him come the debates.


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    #7820
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Biden is looking increasingly lost and confused up there. It would be the decent thing to do for the Democrats to have a word with him and have him step aside. He's an alright guy and deserves better than being made look so pathetic infront of the camera.

    I fear for him come the debates.

    And when he does alright in the debates, will we hear the excuses straight away?

    “He was given the answers”


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    #7821
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Brian? wrote: »
    I think it's loose dentures and age.

    Trump definitely showing signs of dementia, very dangerous to vote him in for another term.


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    #7822
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,275 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Cody montana wrote: »
    And when he does alright in the debates, will we hear the excuses straight away?

    “He was given the answers”

    have they not just tried that one? they seemed surprised that biden was actually well prepared for his town hall versus trump who was a mess. trump wont be able to handle Biden without his whooping and hollering base in front of him.


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    #7823
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Cody montana wrote: »
    And when he does alright in the debates, will we hear the excuses straight away?

    “He was given the answers”

    "It was an ambush" - that was the Fox News angle to excuse Trump's lies and incoherent babbling at his townhall.


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    #7824
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    have they not just tried that one? they seemed surprised that biden was actually well prepared for his town hall versus trump who was a mess. trump wont be able to handle Biden without his whooping and hollering base in front of him.

    They did after the town hall.

    Trump and his goons tried to paint Biden as senile and drooling in his basement.
    This backfired after they Democratic convention and the town hall.


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    #7825
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    "It was an ambush" - that was the Fox News angle to excuse Trump's lies and incoherent babbling at his townhall.

    Which is, of course, and acceptance that Trump had preformed terribly and thus they are looking for an excuse.

    Its a pretty poor showing when even one of his biggest supporters, both Fix and Ingraham, can't even big up his performance but have to find ways to mitigate why it was so terrible.

    To be fair to Trump, there is simply no way he could have seen questions about Covid and healthcare being brought up!

    So was his performance down to him being unprepared, which is extremely worrying given that he has all the information and is 80 days out from election. Or he was unable to deal with the questions, which is also very worrying given that he is the POTUS and running for reelection.

    The whole point of stepping outside his usual Fox News of interview bubble is to try to shift voters over to his and away from Biden. IN that respect,m the ABC town hall will be a disaster as he, IMO at least, won't have won anybody over based on that.


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    #7826
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Which is, of course, and acceptance that Trump had preformed terribly and thus they are looking for an excuse.

    Its a pretty poor showing when even one of his biggest supporters, both Fix and Ingraham, can't even big up his performance but have to find ways to mitigate why it was so terrible.

    To be fair to Trump, there is simply no way he could have seen questions about Covid and healthcare being brought up!

    So was his performance down to him being unprepared, which is extremely worrying given that he has all the information and is 80 days out from election. Or he was unable to deal with the questions, which is also very worrying given that he is the POTUS and running for reelection.

    The whole point of stepping outside his usual Fox News of interview bubble is to try to shift voters over to his and away from Biden. IN that respect,m the ABC town hall will be a disaster as he, IMO at least, won't have won anybody over based on that.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1239605

    He doesn't prepare. His ego won't allow him to because he genuinely believes he's a genius and geniuses don't prepare.

    On the balance of probabilities at the debates between Trump making a complete embarrassing show of himself versus Biden drooling like a senile dotard on stage, the former is much more likely.


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    #7827
    PropJoe10
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    have they not just tried that one? they seemed surprised that biden was actually well prepared for his town hall versus trump who was a mess. trump wont be able to handle Biden without his whooping and hollering base in front of him.

    If Biden doesn't acquit himself well in the debates then he'll only have himself to blame. He has about a zillion idiotic things that Trump has done to call upon. He just needs to avoid getting into an argument, stick to the facts, and let Trump make an absolute buffoon of himself, which is inevitable in itself.


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    #7828
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Biden is looking increasingly lost and confused up there. It would be the decent thing to do for the Democrats to have a word with him and have him step aside. He's an alright guy and deserves better than being made look so pathetic infront of the camera.

    I fear for him come the debates.
    Who are you talking to? You've posted similar in the past, as have others. Is this just a general musing?


    What do you think of the Trump videos on the previous page showing slips of the tongue and misspoken lines by Trump?


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    #7829
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Who are you talking to? You've posted similar in the past, as have others. Is this just a general musing?


    What do you think of the Trump videos on the previous page showing slips of the tongue and misspoken lines by Trump?

    The more the right wing media and Trump fans play up and believe that Biden has serious cognitive issues the better it is for Biden. I say let them at it.


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    #7830
    Igotadose
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The more the right wing media and Trump fans play up and believe that Biden has serious cognitive issues the better it is for Biden. I say let them at it.

    Yes, with any luck they've not worked out their talking points for the day after the debate when Trump's just a grease stain on the pavement after having been destroyed.

    "ambushed" "Biden got the questions first" "Biased questioners" ....


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    #7831
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Yes, with any luck they've not worked out their talking points for the day after the debate when Trump's just a grease stain on the pavement after having been destroyed.

    "ambushed" "Biden got the questions first" "Biased questioners" ....

    Don't forget there will be manipulated videos also. The Trumpists love manipulated videos.


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