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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Not financially viable to the tune of 30k out of work? Is this what you're saying?

    Seems to be plenty viable for everyone else. Seems to be viable for the pubs around here and the others i've been to.

    You're just plucking things from the sky. "Too small". Laughable! These tiny pubs must be employing 100 people each considering you're attributing 30k out of work to pubs being too small!

    "Can't team up with a food reseller". Codswallop!

    Once again, the pubs are open. Want a pint? Go have one! They're delicious.

    Rural pubs are miles away from takeaways so they can’t team up with them and many others can’t afford to set up an on-site kitchen, or they don’t have the space to do so.

    If most of the pubs were open there wouldn’t be any need for this thread.
    If even 1 pub can’t open because they can’t meet all the governments lengthy regulations and opening criteria then that’s a cause for concern.
    And there’s currently a lot more than 1 pub still closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,577 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    goodman added to ignore list

    Thought so ;)
    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Rural pubs are miles away from takeaways so they can’t team up with them and many others can’t afford to set up an on-site kitchen, or they don’t have the space to do so.

    Rural pubs are miles away from take aways? All of them? Are you sure?

    There are always ways and means. Surely these publicans can come up with some ideas. What about.... buying the food in one fell swoop for the evening? Or hiring a driver to fly back and forth? There's more than one way to skin a cat!
    If most of the pubs were open there wouldn’t be any need for this thread.

    That's the thing though, why all the hysteria in the thread? 30 thousand people out of work because, according to a poster above, some pubs are too small to have 2 metres of space between groups?

    Nah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Thought so ;)


    Rural pubs are miles away from take aways? All of them? Are you sure?

    There are always ways and means. Surely these publicans can come up with some ideas. What about.... buying the food in one fell swoop for the evening? Or hiring a driver to fly back and forth? There's more than one way to skin a cat!


    That's the thing though, why all the hysteria in the thread? 30 thousand people out of work because, according to a poster above, some pubs are too small to have 2 metres of space between groups?

    Nah!

    Yes, a lot of them are too far away to make it feasible. There was one such pub owner on the news the other day who said the nearest takeaway was 7km away, meaning the food would be cold by the time it reached the pub, if they even had the money to hire a driver.

    They might have had the money to invest in hiring a third party vendor, or to restructure their businesses to accommodate the 2m rule, but having been closed for nearly 5 months, most owners just don’t have the spare cash.

    The fact that you are insisting that all these businesses aren’t opening cause they can’t be arsed shows a complete lack of understanding or compassion for the horrific financial circumstances most industries are feeling right now.
    They simply do not have the money to throw at a venture that the government may decide is no longer a necessary measure next month.
    The ones that have the means to do it are being creative and changing their business models to reflect the regulations, but not every owner is in that position. Especially the more rural ones.

    One person being out of work is one too many, and one business not being able to open is one too many.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,577 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Yes, a lot of them are too far away to make it feasible. There was one such pub owner on the news the other day who said the nearest takeaway was 7km away, meaning the food would be cold by the time it reached the pub, if they even had the money to hire a driver.

    7km? Is that all? I live 7km from my "local" Dominos and whenever they deliver it's always hot and delicious!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    7km? Is that all? I live 7km from my "local" Dominos and whenever they deliver it's always hot and delicious!

    What a coincidence that you live 7km from your Dominos!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,577 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    What a coincidence that you live 7km from your Dominos!!!

    It's actually slightly more but tomato tomato!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,691 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    hes some arsehole

    Pubs can't open but you can still have a party with 80+ people drinking free booze for the night no problem!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    goodman added to ignore list


    adding people who make posts with logic, sense, or facts to ignore wont alter the truth


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10




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  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Obviously the can't have a piss up though, as has been seen from the reaction and fallout.

    I would like to know about the source of the 9 quid too though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,691 ✭✭✭Tenzor07



    Didn't you know, the rules only apply to the peasants..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    So are we expecting an announcement of sorts this week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,778 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    seamusk84 wrote: »
    So are we expecting an announcement of sorts this week?

    tomorrow i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,136 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    three more weeks, three more weeks........


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    adding people who make posts with logic, sense, or facts to ignore wont alter the truth

    cool added you too as you add none of the above


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    What a retarded response.

    Are you talking about this post of yours? If so you are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,464 ✭✭✭✭L1011



    This is likely a definitions argument

    *NPHET said to allow restaurants to open
    *Lots of pubs pointed out they had restaurant certs (which have the €9 rule)
    *Govt decided to avoid causing a huge rush by every other restaurant to get a restaurant cert and brought in the €9 thing

    So NPHET never said €9 but effectively caused it by what they did say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,778 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    three more weeks, three more weeks........

    christ really ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    cool added you too as you add none of the above


    cool, then you wont see this post or feel the need to reply then when i again repeat the people crying about the pubs being closed are just people looking for an excuse to complain,



    if they really "have to" meet their friends and socialize during a global pandemic, and it "has to be in a pub", then the cheap mean people can spend 9 quid on food and the problem is solved.


    There is zero need for them to continue crying


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  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    christ really ?

    Be lucky if it's only 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,464 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    govt could have cashed in on certs you are speaking gash

    "cashed in"?

    You haven't a clue

    The cost would barely cover the admin effort in normal times; and when dealing with thousands of applications it'd be a massive loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    christ really ?

    Everyone knows it will be. They arent going to open schools and pubs at the same time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,778 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Everyone knows it will be. They arent going to open schools and pubs at the same time

    suppose, the next month is going to be quite interesting and scary as we could see rise in cases

    The Government have to try and let us live with the virus for both mental and economic reasons. No point in hiding in a cave til a magic vaccine or treatment arrives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    suppose, the next month is going to be quite interesting and scary as we could see rise in cases

    The Government have to try and let us live with the virus for both mental and economic reasons. No point in hiding in a cave til a magic vaccine or treatment arrives

    the government are letting us live with the virus, that is what our approach has been about and is about.
    living with the virus was never going to mean simply throwing open the doors and what will be will be, there were always going to be restrictions of some sort so that we can both live with the virus but go about our business in a safe manner.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Let's say they allow non food pubs to open in a few weeks time, I presume it will be sit down only and table service only as is the same when getting the E9 meal +drink?

    I know that might go to hell in a handcart in a non food pub later at night etc., but is that the theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,778 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Let's say they allow non food pubs to open in a few weeks time, I presume it will be sit down only and table service only as is the same when getting the E9 meal +drink?

    I know that might go to hell in a handcart in a non food pub later at night etc., but is that the theory?

    Just assumptions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Let's say they allow non food pubs to open in a few weeks time, I presume it will be sit down only and table service only as is the same when getting the E9 meal +drink?

    I know that might go to hell in a handcart in a non food pub later at night etc., but is that the theory?

    Most publicans I know are working off that theory anyway, name and number at the door, sit down, table service, social distancing and/or partitions and probably a tab system.

    In reality they're just guessing as the government has given them the square root of **** all in guidelines or advice. But they'll be the first to throw them under a bus if a cluster develops......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭vid36


    There is not a chance of non food pubs opening this year. In fact, the Gastropubs will be lucky to stay open as we get into autumn/winter.


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  • Posts: 676 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vid36 wrote: »
    There is not a chance of non food pubs opening this year. In fact, the Gastropubs will be lucky to stay open as we get into autumn/winter.

    And where did you come up with that. Do you know someone working with the government or NPHET


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