Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Neowise

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

This type of sense and logic wont suit on this thread with certain people who feel its their divine right to socialize during a pandemic

I think you'll find that those who think things are their devine right have already gotten their places of worship & solializing opened during the pandemic.

Suckit

Neowise wrote: »

I think you'll find that those who think things are their devine right have already gotten their places of worship & solializing opened during the pandemic.

They want MOAR!

The White Wolf

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

The number of so called "adults" on here crying because a pub that does not serve food is not open is hilarious.

If you want a pint with your friends, go book a table in a pub that serves food....as sadly they are still open.
Nothing will change the FACT pubs are not a priority, especially during a global pandemic.

I saw something on a English forum where one person said, 80 years ago people were asked to fight and die for their country in the second world war.
All we are asked now is to wear a mask in public and keep socializing to a minimum, and still selfish people are crying its too much to do.

D-

Would have been an F if not for invoking World War.

The White Wolf

The White Wolf wrote: »

D-

Would have been an F if not for invoking World War.

They’re dead right and that class of playground reply means that really you know they’re right.

niallo27

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

The number of so called "adults" on here crying because a pub that does not serve food is not open is hilarious.

If you want a pint with your friends, go book a table in a pub that serves food....as sadly they are still open.
Nothing will change the FACT pubs are not a priority, especially during a global pandemic.

I saw something on a English forum where one person said, 80 years ago people were asked to fight and die for their country in the second world war.
All we are asked now is to wear a mask in public and keep socializing to a minimum, and still selfish people are crying its too much to do.

I love these posts, as if people 80 years ago would have just locked themselves away in fear. People were getting bombed to **** but you know what, they kept living their lives. They would have called us a load of soft *****.

Justin Credible Darts

niallo27 wrote: »

I love these posts, as if people 80 years ago would have just locked themselves away in fear. People were getting bombed to **** but you know what, they kept living their lives. They would have called us a load of soft *****.

I bet those people people back then would have no isse with wearing a mask or doing what was best.


I wonder if those people who gave their lives back then would have been as quick to do so if they knew people like you and your sense of entitlement, lack of regards for others, think pubs are a priority, and cry on the internet would be the outcome.

Suckit

niallo27 wrote: »

I love these posts, as if people 80 years ago would have just locked themselves away in fear. People were getting bombed to **** but you know what, they kept living their lives. They would have called us a load of soft *****.

:rolleyes: You so strong. You so tough niallo27. You go straight into danger as though it doesn't exist.
If they had, they would likely have been killed by the rubble falling on them, due to the bombs falling from the sky out of the aeroplanes flying over trying to kill them.They would have known where the danger was, and tried everything they could to avoid it.
IF they were/are calling anyone "soft *****" it would most likely be the people that are complaining that they can't wear a mask, don't want to wear a mask, don't want things to stay closed, they need to have a pint in the pub, they need to see other people, they want to be able to socialise, they can't handle the lockdown..

pjohnson

niallo27 wrote: »

I love these posts, as if people 80 years ago would have just locked themselves away in fear. People were getting bombed to **** but you know what, they kept living their lives. They would have called us a load of soft *****.

Did those fighters cry about there not being any pubs in no mans land or having to wear their gas masks?

Justin Credible Darts

Remember everyone, if you consider the health of yourself and your family as more important than socializing in a pub during a global pandemic, you must be boring or have an issue of some kind.

God forbid being at home in the company of your family, waiting out this pandemic and taking precautions for the welfare of your loved ones, might be more important to you than getting sloshed in a pub. ....no no no...we cant have that, getting pissed is more important.

Thats the consensus on here by people who think pubs are a priority, which they are not, and no one can deny this.
They think the health of others is not as important as their divine right to be getting drunk with other people just as selfish as they are.
And people wonder where this "pissed up mick" stereotype comes from.

Of course they can go to pubs serving food, but I guess these selfish people are also too mean to spend the 9 quid

Will there be an annoumcement this week on weather the no-food pubs will be reopening or not?

Justin Credible Darts

ShyMets wrote: »

Pubs have been operating as restaurants since July and it appears quite a lot of people have been going. So clearly by your logic there are a lot of selfish people around.

When wet pubs do get the green light, I would imagine the guidelines will be the same as currently just without the 9 euro meal requirement. So there will be very little difference to how they currently operate.

please dont say "wet pubs"....you will upset some people.
These ones too mean to spend the 9 quid get offended very easy

Mr E

Mod: Some snarky personal posts have been deleted. Keep it civil, folks.

Justin Credible Darts

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Remember everyone, if you consider the health of yourself and your family as more important than socializing in a pub during a global pandemic, you must be boring or have an issue of some kind.

God forbid being at home in the company of your family, waiting out this pandemic and taking precautions for the welfare of your loved ones, might be more important to you than getting sloshed in a pub. ....no no no...we cant have that, getting pissed is more important.

Thats the consensus on here by people who think pubs are a priority, which they are not, and no one can deny this.
They think the health of others is not as important as their divine right to be getting drunk with other people just as selfish as they are.
And people wonder where this "pissed up mick" stereotype comes from.

Of course they can go to pubs serving food, but I guess these selfish people are also too mean to spend the 9 quid

Not everyone has a wife and kids. Not everyone even has family. God forbid you consider not everyone's life is the same as yours

Tenzor07

AdamD wrote: »

Not everyone has a wife and kids. Not everyone even has family. God forbid you consider not everyone's life is the same as yours

Well exactly, just take the example of a small rural pub...
The customers would be mostly elderly widowed or single men..
They don't' go to "get sloshed".. the socialise with a pint in front of them for an hour...
Going to a pub that doesn't serve food isn't an automatic infection situation.
These rural pubs don't have the facility or money to start dishing out dinners and if they are laid out the exact same as one which does then there's absolutely no reason not to open them.
Anyone who says otherwise is just following some illogical argument or has an agenda against pubs or maybe had a bad experience in them..

completedit

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Remember everyone, if you consider the health of yourself and your family as more important than socializing in a pub during a global pandemic, you must be boring or have an issue of some kind.

God forbid being at home in the company of your family, waiting out this pandemic and taking precautions for the welfare of your loved ones, might be more important to you than getting sloshed in a pub. ....no no no...we cant have that, getting pissed is more important.

Thats the consensus on here by people who think pubs are a priority, which they are not, and no one can deny this.
They think the health of others is not as important as their divine right to be getting drunk with other people just as selfish as they are.
And people wonder where this "pissed up mick" stereotype comes from.

Of course they can go to pubs serving food, but I guess these selfish people are also too mean to spend the 9 quid

Since the very start we have had people like you be guilty of this very line of thinking. Your situation is not everybody. Not everyone has their life set up the way you do 'to wait out the pandemic'.

freak scence

Deleted User wrote: »

Will there be an annoumcement this week on weather the no-food pubs will be reopening or not?

thursday

BagheeraBlue

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Remember everyone, if you consider the health of yourself and your family as more important than socializing in a pub during a global pandemic, you must be boring or have an issue of some kind.

God forbid being at home in the company of your family, waiting out this pandemic and taking precautions for the welfare of your loved ones, might be more important to you than getting sloshed in a pub. ....no no no...we cant have that, getting pissed is more important.

Thats the consensus on here by people who think pubs are a priority, which they are not, and no one can deny this.
They think the health of others is not as important as their divine right to be getting drunk with other people just as selfish as they are.
And people wonder where this "pissed up mick" stereotype comes from.

Of course they can go to pubs serving food, but I guess these selfish people are also too mean to spend the 9 quid

jesus christ shut up ,everyone is bored with your copy and paste job by now

aziz

I just hope that all these people that think the pubs should stay closed will be the ones that will never darken the door of them when they do open

hynesie08

freak scence wrote: »

thursday

So even if they let them open (they won't) they'd have one business day to get everything in........ Seems about right.....

ax530

3 pubs in a row on one street in our town. One reopened with 'food' I'll bring you over menu soon other 2 did not.

Gardai ring in advance of checks apparently even stay for a few. Sing songs going until 2am while the families of neighbor pubs sleep upstairs over their closed pubs.
Publicans of closed pubs under pressure from customers to open under these flexible rules.
This week's announcement should bring all back to same playing field.

Perhaps if business are allowed open customers will not come in when rules adhered to.

It is not fair on those who obey regulations seeing rules are not applied. Those who do not follow guidelines profit.

Note I have not been in premises myself info passed on from staff members parent who I know. It may not be correct but could be.

The White Wolf

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

And people wonder where this "pissed up mick" stereotype comes from.

Does that stereotype upset you?

Richard Hillman

Martin has no other option but to open the pubs. The pressure on him is too heavy from the Golf affair, he needs to bring good news to the people.

hynesie08

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Martin has no other option but to open the pubs. The pressure on him is too heavy from the Golf affair, he needs to bring good news to the people.

The smartest thing he could do is open them with strict guidelines the day the Dail resits, but also sign into legislation powers for the gardai to shut non compliant premises and temporary revocation of licence for non compliance......

But he'll probably announce prohibition instead....

Macy0161

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well exactly, just take the example of a small rural pub...
The customers would be mostly elderly widowed or single men..
They don't' go to "get sloshed".. the socialise with a pint in front of them for an hour...
Going to a pub that doesn't serve food isn't an automatic infection situation.
These rural pubs don't have the facility or money to start dishing out dinners and if they are laid out the exact same as one which does then there's absolutely no reason not to open them.
Anyone who says otherwise is just following some illogical argument or has an agenda against pubs or maybe had a bad experience in them..

But I really seriously ask how these (my favourite type) pubs survive anyway, with or without covid restrictions? If they are like that all the time?

The ones I am aware of are like that during the week, but rammed on Friday/ Saturday and often Sunday night.

hynesie08

Macy0161 wrote: »

But I really seriously ask how these (my favourite type) pubs survive anyway, with or without covid restrictions? If they are like that all the time?

The ones I am aware of are like that during the week, but rammed on Friday/ Saturday and often Sunday night.

The building is usually paid off, that's about 60% of your overheads gone especially if you live upstairs. No sky sports, that's another saving. No need to stock 87 gins and 113 whiskeys. Staff have the same last name as the bar.

You do need the occasional birthday/funeral/GAA match, but a rural pub can survive selling 40-50 pints a day a LOT longer than a city pub.

Macy0161

hynesie08 wrote: »

The building is usually paid off, that's about 60% of your overheads gone especially if you live upstairs. No sky sports, that's another saving. No need to stock 87 gins and 113 whiskeys. Staff have the same last name as the bar.

You do need the occasional birthday/funeral/GAA match, but a rural pub can survive selling 40-50 pints a day a LOT longer than a city pub.

I get that (well except the old lads wouldn't be enough trade for 40-50 pints a day), and they won't have the occasional birthday/ funeral/ match.

I don't really see why a pub that's brought and paid for, genuinely all about the old fellas propping up the bar, are in danger of closing either? They're probably clearing more on PUP.

2ndcoming

hynesie08 wrote: »

The building is usually paid off, that's about 60% of your overheads gone especially if you live upstairs. No sky sports, that's another saving. No need to stock 87 gins and 113 whiskeys. Staff have the same last name as the bar.

You do need the occasional birthday/funeral/GAA match, but a rural pub can survive selling 40-50 pints a day a LOT longer than a city pub.

At €2 a pint profit (I have a strong feeling it's a good bit less than that) 40-50 pints a day is €80-100 gross profit, most definitely not a viable business proposition.

That's why a huge number of them are closing down anyway. The younger generation is not the pub going generation of their parents. Without expanding into food (and doing it well) or having a very strong local standing in the community the vast majority of bars don't have a leg to stand on and hadn't for the guts of 10 years.

Tenzor07

Macy0161 wrote: »

I get that (well except the old lads wouldn't be enough trade for 40-50 pints a day), and they won't have the occasional birthday/ funeral/ match.
I don't really see why a pub that's brought and paid for, genuinely all about the old fellas propping up the bar, are in danger of closing either? They're probably clearing more on PUP.

Not sure how much profit they're making, probably just enough to keep the lights on, after the smoking ban and stricter drink driving laws it killed a lot of the oul lad rural pubs. but many stayed open..
this also applies to the community type pubs that people go to for funeral afters, communions and confirmations etc...

hynesie08

2ndcoming wrote: »

At €2 a pint profit (I have a strong feeling it's a good bit less than that) 40-50 pints a day is €80-100 gross profit, most definitely not a viable business proposition.

That's why a huge number of them are closing down anyway. The younger generation is not the pub going generation of their parents. Without expanding into food (and doing it well) or having a very strong local standing in the community the vast majority of bars don't have a leg to stand on and hadn't for the guts of 10 years.

At this stage a lot of it is just career publicans winding down the days, maybe putting the last kid through college, there's going to be a wipeout of these pubs in the next generation, and I don't think catch of the day and homemade soda bread is going to fix it.

Macy0161

hynesie08 wrote: »

At this stage a lot of it is just career publicans winding down the days, maybe putting the last kid through college, there's going to be a wipeout of these pubs in the next generation, and I don't think catch of the day and homemade soda bread is going to fix it.

I think there are some using it as an excuse tbh. They, and their pubs, are part of the community and easier to say lockdown, than to say they've had enough and want out.