Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Jackman25 wrote: »

Hysterical rubbish.

You should expect nothing else from said poster. They'd love to be the king of the castle, forcing their ways on all of us, regardless of how little sense their ways make. Throughout human history the neurotic were rarely in power for good reason, in the modern world though we've handed all the power to the most neurotic, and we will suffer greatly for it.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

People won't be on top of each other in pubs? Be serious for a minute. Back here in reality, pubs are the highest risk environment. It doesn't have to be ibiza.

It just depends how much transmission and death you want do you can have your fun in the pub. I loved the fun of going to the pub but I'd sacrifice that fun and find other ways to socialise to keep transmission low.

It's just a matter of selfishness. 'How much transmission and death is my craic in the pub worth?'

Really. Higher even than meat factories or nursing homes?

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Pubs up North are open as well and from what i hear are operating almost as normal, ie the food requirement isnt as strict as down here

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/pub-reopenings-in-north-pushed-back-masks-to-become-mandatory-1.4323878

I think the only difference in northern Ireland is that if outside, no food is required.

Absolutely no sense in this. They have 20 odd customers.
A sight we are going to see far too much of unfortunately. Shame on this government letting these people go out of business through no fault of their own.

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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

People won't be on top of each other in pubs? Be serious for a minute. Back here in reality, pubs are the highest risk environment. It doesn't have to be ibiza.

It just depends how much transmission and death you want do you can have your fun in the pub. I loved the fun of going to the pub but I'd sacrifice that fun and find other ways to socialise to keep transmission low.

It's just a matter of selfishness. 'How much transmission and death is my craic in the pub worth?'

Your thinking of pubs last year though, everything has changed. Why do you assume every aspect of society can change but pubs won't just because people have a few pints on board.

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Its a fairly big difference in fairness

Works much better IMO, place I was in recently up north was probably much safer despite not having the magic meal than some of the "restaurants" operating in Dublin.
They should be relaxing now outdoor drinking now as later in the year it will tighten up again.

Closing time thing is stupid as well as most places weren't letting in fresh costumers after nineish anyway and the group outside of the meat factories/asylum seeker accommodation with high rates of infection were young people who feck of to house parties anyway at closing.

Personally I would investigate options on having a one premises a night limit for people via app or UV stamps but remove time limits and allow no meals for outside areas.

PTH2009 wrote: »

no pubs and nightclubs for 6-9 months ?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0811/1158457-cabinet-sub-committee-on-covid-19/

I was out in Dublin city centre this evening, choice of pubs. Ended up in a well known pub off the top of O Connell Street and for a Tuesday it was very busy.
Demand is there and pubs in the city anyway are definitely getting business

PTH2009 wrote: »

Taken from a local pub reopening here on Thursday

"Strict social distancing at 2 metres between tables / chairs (By operating at 2 metres there will be no time limit to stay in the bar )

So the 105 mins ballax is done and dusted so

Was always the position. 105 mins applies if less than 2m apart.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Taken from a local pub reopening here on Thursday

"Strict social distancing at 2 metres between tables / chairs (By operating at 2 metres there will be no time limit to stay in the bar )

So the 105 mins ballax is done and dusted so

That ballax is done and dusted anyway with quite a while from what I have seen. Thankfully.

So I know one is only going to do medium pizzas €12 from apache and choose from 4 pizzas from their menu. No bolloxing with toppings. Just 4 pizzas and that’s it.
All seem to be saying they’ll do 2 metres to the best of their ability and have no time limits. It does make sense as 11 pubs here so people will have choice

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Do you think the restraints around serving alcohol in a restaraunt is to stop people getting drunk, or to preserve the trade and value of licenses in pubs?

I think it's a bit of both. I am not sure if the government gets more money from pub licences than restaurant ones.

I have said numerous times that a restaurant is far more likely to be approved in a residential area than a pub would. For this reason they have to have some mechanism in place to stop the likes of some shady publican applying to get a restaurant open in a residential area or beside a school and once open it is for all intents & purposes a rowdy pub -and then there being nothing the law could do, no food requirement for customers. People blind drunk falling out of this "sushi restaurant" puking, pissing in neigbours gardens, singing songs.

And yes of course people can get drunk in legit restaurants, but I would certainly be more happy to hear of a legit restaurant opening across the road from my house than a sports bar who openly welcome stag parties.

It's the same with takeaways, they are meant to find it hard to get approval in certain areas, people predict litter and possibly small gatherings. There is a row of shops near me and I thought a chipper would do really well there but people said no way it would get approval. There is also a fancy kebab restaurant in Foxrock village and I wondered why they did not do takeaway and people reckoned it might have been part of the planning agreement. (They did begin to do takeaway when the lockdowns happened)

The laws also exist for children in pubs, which to be is obviously so they are less likely to be exposed to scenes of drunkeness
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/alcohol_and_the_law.html

Children aged between 15 and 17 years may remain on the premises after 9pm where they are attending a private function at which a substantial meal is served. All licensed premises must display a sign to this effect in a prominent place at all times and failure to do so can result in a fine.