Covid Holiday supplement only available to those who pay tax and USC

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! · 23-07-2020 05:32PM #1

A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation

https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 23-07-2020 05:33PM

Typically I see holidays as being a break from work. Going by that if you're unemployed you're always on holiday.

elperello · 23-07-2020 05:34PM

In the OP well done.

jam_mac_jam · 23-07-2020 05:36PM

Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?

Deeper Blue · 23-07-2020 05:37PM

Correct decision

JeffKenna · 23-07-2020 05:37PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?

Unemployed in Nazi Germany were sent to the camps so I'd say so.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-07-2020 05:38PM

Spanish resorts will be happy.

jam_mac_jam · 23-07-2020 05:39PM

What a waste of money. Just give whatever it's going to cost in tax breaks directly to hotels or restaurants if you have to do it.

capefear · 23-07-2020 05:39PM

But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! · 23-07-2020 05:41PM

capefear wrote: »

But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.

A voucher for everyone would be more fair.

questionmark? · 23-07-2020 05:42PM

Tax payers offered small tax break to spend in businesses which pay tax to help said business and its employees that pay tax. What's the issue here exactly?

Triangle · 23-07-2020 05:42PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation

https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

Tbh, with the level of righteous anger, you can have my tax break too. I think you need it more.

JeffKenna · 23-07-2020 05:44PM

It's a really good idea in that it keeps money in the Irish economy.

Darc19 · 23-07-2020 05:44PM

It's a TAX credit.

If you don't pay tax, how do you expect a credit.

For those earning under €25,000, Ireland has one of the lowest income tax in the world.

And at about €18,000, it's one of the highest tax free allowances in the world.

Probably best to reduce this to €10,000 (UK level) and then you can claim tax credits

Darc19 · 23-07-2020 05:45PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Spanish resorts will be happy.

Have they moved to Ireland?

23-07-2020 05:46PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation

https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

But their Christmas bonus will probably equate to more than the tax credit.

Fairs fair an all that.

Jim_Hodge · 23-07-2020 05:46PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

A voucher for everyone would be more fair.

Why? Could they afford to add to the voucher to have the holiday and will they add to the boost to the sector that it's designed to achieve?

Zaph · 23-07-2020 05:48PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation

https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 23-07-2020 05:49PM

Godwin's Law invoked in the first post. Is this a new record?

23-07-2020 05:49PM

try less hard op, the audience should see you sweat but not actually sh1t yourself is what olivier recommends

Ronaldinho · 23-07-2020 06:07PM

Are pubs included?

So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! · 23-07-2020 06:07PM

Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?

elperello · 23-07-2020 06:13PM

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Are pubs included?

So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?

No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.

Deeper Blue · 23-07-2020 06:15PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?

If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! · 23-07-2020 06:25PM

El Sueño wrote: »

If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes

What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

Pentecost · 23-07-2020 06:27PM

elperello wrote: »

No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.

That is something that's ridiculous.

Necro · 23-07-2020 06:31PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote:

What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

The fact that you pay tax on your income. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Deeper Blue · 23-07-2020 06:45PM

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

You pay tax.

The non taxpayers get more than enough free money as it is but that's another story for another day.

JeffKenna · 23-07-2020 06:47PM

Pentecost wrote: »

That is something that's ridiculous.

All you have to do is get a bottle of wine and ask the hotel to put it on the receipt as a main course. Seen it happen loads on business lunches.

screamer · 23-07-2020 06:52PM

Oh lads, all the outrage. Now put your brain in gear and think, really hard why they set it up like this????? Give up? I’ll tell you
A tax credit is not money they hand you out, it’s on paper. Thus, it won’t be paid back to anyone in a lump, it will be like a tenner less a month taken from your taxes. In this way, it’ll cost them very little and there’s no real admin to it and it’s stretched over 12 months for them to refund.
Now if they were to give it back in a cash refund so everyone could have it, imagine the money they’d need and the resources to admin it....... it’s nothing to do with employed or unemployed it’s the cheapest easiest vehicle to deliver this with

23-07-2020 06:55PM

Says VAT is being reduced too from 23% to 21%. Is that really going to encourage people to spend?

Covid Holiday supplement only available to those who pay tax and USC

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