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Covid Holiday supplement only available to those who pay tax and USC

  • 23-07-2020 6:32pm
    #1
    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭


    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.


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  • #2
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Typically I see holidays as being a break from work. Going by that if you're unemployed you're always on holiday.


  • #3
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,558 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    In the OP well done.


  • #4
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?


  • #5
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Correct decision


  • #6
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?

    Unemployed in Nazi Germany were sent to the camps so I'd say so.


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  • #7
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Spanish resorts will be happy.


  • #8
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    What a waste of money. Just give whatever it's going to cost in tax breaks directly to hotels or restaurants if you have to do it.


  • #9
    capefear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭capefear


    But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.


  • #10
    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    capefear wrote: »
    But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.

    A voucher for everyone would be more fair.


  • #11
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Tax payers offered small tax break to spend in businesses which pay tax to help said business and its employees that pay tax. What's the issue here exactly?


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  • #12
    Triangle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

    Tbh, with the level of righteous anger, you can have my tax break too. I think you need it more.


  • #13
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    It's a really good idea in that it keeps money in the Irish economy.


  • #14
    Darc19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    It's a TAX credit.

    If you don't pay tax, how do you expect a credit.

    For those earning under €25,000, Ireland has one of the lowest income tax in the world.

    And at about €18,000, it's one of the highest tax free allowances in the world.

    Probably best to reduce this to €10,000 (UK level) and then you can claim tax credits


  • #15
    Darc19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Spanish resorts will be happy.

    Have they moved to Ireland?


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

    But their Christmas bonus will probably equate to more than the tax credit.

    Fairs fair an all that.


  • #17
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    A voucher for everyone would be more fair.

    Why? Could they afford to add to the voucher to have the holiday and will they add to the boost to the sector that it's designed to achieve?


  • #18
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.

    the-hyperbole-is-strong-in-this-one.jpg


  • #19
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Godwin's Law invoked in the first post. Is this a new record?


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    try less hard op, the audience should see you sweat but not actually sh1t yourself is what olivier recommends


  • #21
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Are pubs included?

    So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?


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  • #22
    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?


  • #23
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,558 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Ronaldinho wrote: »
    Are pubs included?

    So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?

    No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

    Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.


  • #24
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?

    If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes


  • #25
    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    El Sueño wrote: »
    If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes

    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?


  • #26
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    elperello wrote: »
    No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

    Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.

    That is something that's ridiculous.


  • #27
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote:
    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

    The fact that you pay tax on your income. It's not a hard concept to grasp.


  • #28
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

    You pay tax.

    The non taxpayers get more than enough free money as it is but that's another story for another day.


  • #29
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Pentecost wrote: »
    That is something that's ridiculous.

    All you have to do is get a bottle of wine and ask the hotel to put it on the receipt as a main course. Seen it happen loads on business lunches.


  • #30
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    Oh lads, all the outrage. Now put your brain in gear and think, really hard why they set it up like this????? Give up? I’ll tell you
    A tax credit is not money they hand you out, it’s on paper. Thus, it won’t be paid back to anyone in a lump, it will be like a tenner less a month taken from your taxes. In this way, it’ll cost them very little and there’s no real admin to it and it’s stretched over 12 months for them to refund.
    Now if they were to give it back in a cash refund so everyone could have it, imagine the money they’d need and the resources to admin it....... it’s nothing to do with employed or unemployed it’s the cheapest easiest vehicle to deliver this with


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Says VAT is being reduced too from 23% to 21%. Is that really going to encourage people to spend?


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