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Covid Holiday supplement only available to those who pay tax and USC

  • 23-07-2020 5:32pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭ Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭ Karson Wet Jackass


    Typically I see holidays as being a break from work. Going by that if you're unemployed you're always on holiday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭ elperello


    In the OP well done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭ jam_mac_jam


    Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭ Deeper Blue


    Correct decision


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭ JeffKenna


    Maybe Nazi Germany is a slight exaggeration?

    Unemployed in Nazi Germany were sent to the camps so I'd say so.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 72,121 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn


    Spanish resorts will be happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭ jam_mac_jam


    What a waste of money. Just give whatever it's going to cost in tax breaks directly to hotels or restaurants if you have to do it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ capefear


    But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭ Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    capefear wrote: »
    But that’s how all tax credits work, you can only get a refund of a tax credit if you have paid tax.

    A voucher for everyone would be more fair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭ questionmark?


    Tax payers offered small tax break to spend in businesses which pay tax to help said business and its employees that pay tax. What's the issue here exactly?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭ Triangle


    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

    Tbh, with the level of righteous anger, you can have my tax break too. I think you need it more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭ JeffKenna


    It's a really good idea in that it keeps money in the Irish economy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭ Darc19


    It's a TAX credit.

    If you don't pay tax, how do you expect a credit.

    For those earning under €25,000, Ireland has one of the lowest income tax in the world.

    And at about €18,000, it's one of the highest tax free allowances in the world.

    Probably best to reduce this to €10,000 (UK level) and then you can claim tax credits


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭ Darc19


    Spanish resorts will be happy.

    Have they moved to Ireland?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter.

    But their Christmas bonus will probably equate to more than the tax credit.

    Fairs fair an all that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭ Jim_Hodge


    A voucher for everyone would be more fair.

    Why? Could they afford to add to the voucher to have the holiday and will they add to the boost to the sector that it's designed to achieve?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,102 ✭✭✭✭ Zaph


    A disgraceful move. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany segregation


    https://www.thejournal.ie/staycation-spending-measures-5157989-Jul2020/

    They introduced it as a tax credit, so screw the unemployed.

    I earn 45k a year before anyone accuses me of being bitter. It's not different to economic vetos and discrimination encouraged on certain members of German society during the Nuremberg Laws.

    the-hyperbole-is-strong-in-this-one.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭ Alivia Stale Harpist


    Godwin's Law invoked in the first post. Is this a new record?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,644 ✭✭✭✭ snoopsheep


    try less hard op, the audience should see you sweat but not actually sh1t yourself is what olivier recommends


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭ Ronaldinho


    Are pubs included?

    So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭ Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭ elperello


    Ronaldinho wrote: »
    Are pubs included?

    So buy 4 pints get 1 free effectively?

    No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

    Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭ Deeper Blue


    Would a voucher only valid in Ireland and not exchangeable for cash be fairer?

    If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭ Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    El Sueño wrote: »
    If it was given only to people that pay taxes then yes

    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭ Pentecost


    elperello wrote: »
    No receipts for drink allowed in the scheme.

    Enjoy that lemonade with your steak.

    That is something that's ridiculous.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 48,800 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Necro


    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

    The fact that you pay tax on your income. It's not a hard concept to grasp.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭ Deeper Blue


    What makes me more entitled to it than my neighbour who might be unemployed? Or genuinely disabled?

    You pay tax.

    The non taxpayers get more than enough free money as it is but that's another story for another day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭ JeffKenna


    Pentecost wrote: »
    That is something that's ridiculous.

    All you have to do is get a bottle of wine and ask the hotel to put it on the receipt as a main course. Seen it happen loads on business lunches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭ screamer


    Oh lads, all the outrage. Now put your brain in gear and think, really hard why they set it up like this????? Give up? I’ll tell you
    A tax credit is not money they hand you out, it’s on paper. Thus, it won’t be paid back to anyone in a lump, it will be like a tenner less a month taken from your taxes. In this way, it’ll cost them very little and there’s no real admin to it and it’s stretched over 12 months for them to refund.
    Now if they were to give it back in a cash refund so everyone could have it, imagine the money they’d need and the resources to admin it....... it’s nothing to do with employed or unemployed it’s the cheapest easiest vehicle to deliver this with


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,495 ✭✭✭✭ partyjungle


    Says VAT is being reduced too from 23% to 21%. Is that really going to encourage people to spend?


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