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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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    #2192
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,332 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    8000 hospitalised - that’s wrong right?

    It's Fox news - not known for their integrity as a news site.


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    #2193
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Houston we have a problem.

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-coronavirus-hospitalizations-hit-new-daily-high-as-overall-cases-slip


    where are they fitting them all. They have apro 29million six times the size of Ireland. Correct me we had a max 250ish in hospital max at the highest piont?


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    #2194
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It's Fox news - not known for their integrity as a news site.

    The gas thing is, with the US right now o didn’t automatically cop it as being so ridiculous


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    #2195
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Its in the BMJ - would expect them to have some kind of authority on it

    https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2685

    The BBC report is from a month ago

    Did anyone from the BMJ carry out an autopsy?


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    #2196
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    8000 hospitalised - that’s wrong right?

    I think that couldn't be right..New York was seeing about 3000 people being hospitalised per day at it's very peak..Texas has a 50% bigger population than New York but still . If it is right well then wow Texas could not have ****ed up any worse


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    #2197
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,332 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Did anyone from the BMJ carry out an autopsy?

    Well everyone around him had it and being a pretty fit guy it's a bit suspicious to say the least
    https://www.ft.com/content/a232c62b-ded1-4dd4-8ca7-a5bb5214987f


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    #2198
    Plumbthedepths
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    speckle wrote: »
    where are they fitting them all. They have apro 29million six times the size of Ireland. Correct me we had a max 250ish in hospital max at the highest piont?

    Thought you might enjoy this version.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=933394430452927&id=546224585836582&sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e


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    #2199
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Well everyone around him had it and being a pretty fit guy it's a bit suspicious to say the least
    https://www.ft.com/content/a232c62b-ded1-4dd4-8ca7-a5bb5214987f

    His death was recorded as a cardiac arrest though.
    I know in certain countries if you fell to your death but tested positive for Covid , Covid was the cause of death not the fall.


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    #2200
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Thought you might enjoy this version.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=933394430452927&id=546224585836582&sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

    Yes I did and so did my cats! thankyou.
    beautiful imagery and ooh what a rumble of percussion. His voice would be lost in a mine but would sound beautiful in a cavern.


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    #2201
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I think that couldn't be right..New York was seeing about 3000 people being hospitalised per day at it's very peak..Texas has a 50% bigger population than New York but still . If it is right well then wow Texas could not have ****ed up any worse
    Last date I can see on june 26 there was 5106 in hospital
    latest today here

    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f


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    #2202
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    speckle wrote: »
    Yes I did and so did my cats! thankyou.
    beautiful imagery and ooh what a rumble of percussion. His voice would be lost in a mine but would sound beautiful in a cavern.

    He was one of the stars on a programme on Discovery Channel called Gold-diggers.
    I have the version you linked on my Running play list.


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    #2203
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Well isnt that ironic.

    Not really considering his cause of death was recorded as cardiac arrest.


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    #2204
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I think that couldn't be right..New York was seeing about 3000 people being hospitalised per day at it's very peak..Texas has a 50% bigger population than New York but still . If it is right well then wow Texas could not have ****ed up any worse

    Its 8000 in total, not new hospitalisations, although the article reads like that. Still a lot. Currently they have 13,300 hospital beds and 1203 ICU beds still available. Texas has some of the largest medical facilities in the world. The texas covid dashboard with all that info is here

    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/3f048ced32804271aafe8b9640bcb4a7

    Most states have similar if you just Google the state plus covid dashboard you can find it.


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    #2205
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    speckle wrote: »
    Yes I did and so did my cats! thankyou.
    beautiful imagery and ooh what a rumble of percussion. His voice would be lost in a mine but would sound beautiful in a cavern.

    You might enjoy this.


    https://www.facebook.com/1539024826393663/posts/2327560330873438/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e


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    #2206
    Wolf359f
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    His death was recorded as a cardiac arrest though.
    I know in certain countries if you fell to your death but tested positive for Covid , Covid was the cause of death not the fall.

    Let's be honest, covid is a notified disease and has to be entered on the death cert. It being mentioned on the cert is not the same as it being the sole cause of death.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, if you have seen a death cert stating the cause of death was death from fall as a result of being covid positive.

    But please, what counties let me know those 'certain countries' I'm curious is all.


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    #2207
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Let's be honest, covid is a notified disease and has to be entered on the death cert. It being mentioned on the cert is not the same as it being the sole cause of death.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, if you have seen a death cert stating the cause of death was death from fall as a result of being covid positive.

    But please, what counties let me know those 'certain countries' I'm curious is all.

    A very simple answer what country has de notified deaths. In Ireland we estimate 500 deaths were wrongly classified as Covid.


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    #2208
    dublinman1990
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    Hundreds of scientists have now submitted new evidence to the WHO, via an open letter to the UN Agency, which states that Covid-19 is airborne from people when they release small or large droplets by sneezing, coughing or speaking to other people who currently don't have any symptoms.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/scientists-who-coronavirus-airborne-1.5638444
    Whether carried by large droplets that zoom through the air after a sneeze, or by much smaller exhaled droplets that may glide the length of a room, the coronavirus is borne through air and can infect people when inhaled, the scientists said, according to the NYT.

    The scientists, in this case, have now asked the WHO to revise it's official public health advice to say that, from their newly supplied evidence, Coronavirus is airborne from people who have the virus & spread it to other people who are known as healthy individuals.


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    #2209
    Wolf359f
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A very simple answer what country has de notified deaths. In Ireland we estimate 500 deaths were wrongly classified as Covid.

    That's totally incorrect. All deaths probable and suspected are recorded. If the test later comes back negitive or it's a death recorded twice in error, it's denotified.

    Excess mortality is something entirely different.
    I'm not even going to try an explain it as it's too complicated and it's insensitive to call it as it is.


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    #2210
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,332 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Hundreds of scientists have now submitted new evidence to the WHO, via an open letter to the UN Agency, which states that Covid-19 is airborne from people when they release small or large droplets by sneezing, coughing or speaking to other people who currently don't have any symptoms.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/scientists-who-coronavirus-airborne-1.5638444

    The scientists, in this case, have now asked the WHO to revise it's official public health advice to say that, from their newly supplied evidence, Coronavirus is airborne from people who have the virus & spread it to other people who are known as healthy individuals.

    Ahh don't be unfair to the WHO - give them a few months to come to the same conclusion


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    #2211
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Hundreds of scientists have now submitted new evidence to the WHO, via an open letter to the UN Agency, which states that Covid-19 is airborne from people when they release small or large droplets by sneezing, coughing or speaking to other people who currently don't have any symptoms.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/scientists-who-coronavirus-airborne-1.5638444



    The scientists, in this case, have now asked the WHO to revise it's official public health advice to say that, from their newly supplied evidence, Coronavirus is airborne from people who have the virus & spread it to other people who are known as healthy individuals.

    How is this new information though? Droplet transmission has been known about for months


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    #2212
    Goldengirl
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A very simple answer what country has de notified deaths. In Ireland we estimate 500 deaths were wrongly classified as Covid.

    That is a very ...simple ...answer .
    Not correct though.

    Deaths that have been classified as Covid would be denotified if not .
    The recorded deaths are about 600 odd less than expected excess deaths for the 3 month time period .
    Thought due to the fact that some of those people may have been dying from other illnesses and catching the virus was the last straw .


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    #2213
    YellowBucket
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Its 8000 in total, not new hospitalisations, although the article reads like that. Still a lot. Currently they have 13,300 hospital beds and 1203 ICU beds still available. Texas has some of the largest medical facilities in the world. The texas covid dashboard with all that info is here

    https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/3f048ced32804271aafe8b9640bcb4a7

    Most states have similar if you just Google the state plus covid dashboard you can find it.

    The problem is though that when a system's overwhelmed, it's overwhelmed. No Western healthcare system is designed to have thousands of people needing ICU care simultaneously and you can't really ramp those facilities up beyond a certain scale as they required highly skilled doctors and nurses to even begin to operate ventilators. It's not just about the machines.

    Our healthcare systems are also very much geared towards complicated medicine around extending and prolonging life - cancer care, cardiovascular care, etc etc .. not around dealing with vast numbers of viral respiratory illnesses.

    That's why you can't let the virus get out of control when we have nothing really much more than supportive medicine to deal with this thing at the moment.


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    #2214
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,740 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    That is a very ...simple ...answer .
    Not correct though.

    Deaths that have been classified as Covid would be identified if not .
    The recorded deaths are about 600 odd less than expected excess deaths for the 3 month time period .
    Thought due to the fact that some of those people may have been dying from other illnesses and catching the virus was the last straw .

    That's a better way of explaining it.
    It just upsets me when people use the phrase "sure they were past their age" or "they were gonna die anyway"
    It's so insensitive for them to assume that.


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    #2215
    s1ippy
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    Meanwhile in Arizona

    https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279859772456611840?s=19

    Followup is even better. She manages to toss in a bit of "you're racist" for good measure.

    https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279860278679801856?s=19

    I would be wearing twelve masks if I was those police officers, can't be easy dealing with people of this calibre during this. They're very nice tbf, you'd feel sorry.

    :pac:

    If QAnon are involved someone clearly set her up for a hoolie like, she's not well. These videos of Karens are just testament to the fact that people are not coping at all with their worlds being turned upside down, even in mundane ways.


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    #2216
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,332 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    s1ippy wrote: »
    If QAnon are involved someone clearly set her up for a hoolie like, she's not well. These videos of Karens are just testament to the fact that people are not coping at all with their worlds being turned upside down, even in mundane ways.

    These types always have something to complain and protest about - coronavirus is just the "in thing" at the moment


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    #2217
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Don't usually get to see ads on TV as Netflix, players and recordings are my go to. But since football is back I'm seeing a lot more. Ads saying ibuprofen is safe sponsored by neurofen are on regularly. Obviously the press from France has been a huge issue for them.


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    #2218
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,519 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nick Cordero has died RIP, he had quite a long Covid battle
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #2219
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Nick Cordero has died RIP, he had quite a long Covid battle

    Thoughts to his wife and family. Father of a 1 year old and only 41. So sad.


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    #2220
    BorneTobyWilde
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Nick Cordero has died RIP, he had quite a long Covid battle


    Thought he was recovering, WTF. I know he lost a leg, but I thought that was the sacrifice of living


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    #2221
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,519 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Thought he was recovering, WTF. I know he lost a leg, but I thought that was the sacrifice of living

    I think last I read was he needed a lung transplant
    https://forumofgames.com/




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