Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Beasty

So it's here - 19 weeks ago we had no cases. 19 days ago we had 25,237. In those past 19 days we've had 237 cases - an average of less than 27 compared to a peak of over 1,000

This thread has "survived" for 33 days - the original one was on the go for 34

Welcome to thread number 19, the previous ones

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And now a maths lesson:
“Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
Mean = the sum of a series of numbers divided by the number of items in the series
Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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Beasty

Morning has broken like the first morning
Blackbird has spoken like the first bird
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning
Praise for them springing fresh from the world....

fritzelly

And like Harris said this is now the 19th iteration

Snow Garden

Someone will base their thesis on Beasty's multiple Covid threads in the years to come.

ACitizenErased

Been told by a reliable source that vaccine production is to start in Cork in the next few weeks. No idea which vaccine it is but 95% positive this is true.

cnocbui

From the previous thread:

Santy2015

On vaccines.. any more movement on them today? I saw the oxford one is in phase 3 now. Any others?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-24/coronavirus-vaccine-race/12277558

branie2

Thanks for putting this up

drunkmonkey

Just in relation to the Government censorship of our Chief Medical Officer...

The optimist in me thinks they've decided to go down the quarantine route as the holidaymakers won't listen to anyone there determined to go, there's no guarantee any of them will get a free pass back in 7 days after they leave on the bug bridges.

bb1234567

Could it really jsut be coincidence that South Africa, one of the more developed nations in Africa, is one of the only nations on the continent reporting large numbers of cases and deaths daily? Do the numbers there signify that many cases/deaths are going unreported across the rest of Africa?

Spencer Brown

Spencer Brown wrote:

And my point is, you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.....

If cases are minimal to none then there's nobody to spread it, it's not like we can't deal with some cases, we're trying to avoid some cases becoming lots of cases. At the moment case numbers are so low in most parts of the country that wearing masks is an unnecessary inconvenience.

We're all human, it's understandable if people start to slip in compliance with measures. Even when we know something is good for us we generally struggle to keep it up. Why not save masks for when we actually need them (if that time comes)?

You know what. I don't even know anymore.

I'm posting here through the lens of eradicating it, but maybe that is unrealistic in Europe with travel and that. Maybe what you're talking about could work if it could be managed.

ACitizenErased

bb1234567 wrote: »

Could it really jsut be coincidence that South Africa, one of the more developed nations in Africa, is one of the only nations on the continent reporting large numbers of cases and deaths daily? Do the numbers there signify that many cases/deaths are going unreported across the rest of Africa?

South Africa has done nearly more tests than the rest of Africa combined.

ShineOn7

From January 21st

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA

this is one to watch methinks, its in the Americas now and can be transmitted person to person.

is this the big plague or even a precursor to it?

any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

cnocbui

Snow Garden wrote: »

Someone will base their thesis on Beasty's multiple Covid threads in the years to come.

And it's likely to be titled something like: 'Internet Forums as a Vector for the Development and Reinforcement of Psychosis During the COVID-19 Pandemic Event'

ShineOn7

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Been told by a reliable source that vaccine production is to start in Cork in the next few weeks. No idea which vaccine it is but 95% positive this is true.

Ireland won't necessarily get first shout on it though I don''t think?

Or maybe/hopefully we will

fr336

Last thread ended on page 666 :eek:

Wash your hands.

cnocbui

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Ireland won't necessarily get first shout on it though I don''t think?

Or maybe/hopefully we will

Do we get all the Viagra?

fr336

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Been told by a reliable source that vaccine production is to start in Cork in the next few weeks. No idea which vaccine it is but 95% positive this is true.

Do we still ned a vaccine? I thought the virus was pretty much dead :pac:

bb1234567

cnocbui wrote: »

And it's likely to be titled something like: 'Internet Forums as a Vector for the Development and Reinforcement of Psychosis During the COVID-19 Pandemic Event'

Yeh it's interesting that the defining memories of this pandemic are not the deaths or severity of disease but the mass societal hysteria ,spread of dangerous misinformation and fake news, the overreaction by governments who were so quick to remove so many civil liberties we took for granted in the free world, etc

ACitizenErased

I hope we all go down in history for our posts here

cnocbui

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I hope we all go down in history for our posts here

Oh don't worry, you will.

Arghus

fr336 wrote: »

Do we still ned a vaccine? I thought the virus was pretty much dead :pac:

Don't you know that Michael Levitt - remember him? - said that it would burn itself out before now?

It wasn't like he didn't know about what he was talking about and his "conclusions" were based on false methodology - and was latched onto and repeated ad nasuem by others who equally didn't know what they were talking about either.

cnocbui

fr336 wrote: »

Do we still ned a vaccine? I thought the virus was pretty much dead :pac:

Dead virus is the best sort for a vaccine.

Arghus

Second episode of the hospital doc on RTE 1 right now.

fr336

bb1234567 wrote: »

Yeh it's interesting that the defining memories of this pandemic are not the deaths or severity of disease but the mass societal hysteria ,spread of dangerous misinformation and fake news, the overreaction by governments who were so quick to remove so many civil liberties we took for granted in the free world, etc

They weren't quick at all. They let the virus infest their countries before finally being dragged into lockdowns at the very last moment. Some were worse than others - the Asian countries obviously took it seriously straight away, whereas continental Europe were slow even with Italy going into meltdown but still locked down in the medium term. Ireland eventually got the message. Then you have the UK staggering in when everybody has vacated the bar.

ShineOn7

Remembering these threads in mid March, they moved so fast I nicknamed them "The Daily Blur". At one stage Beasty needed to create a new one every 48 hours. That's 10,000 posts every 2 days

I can't remember a more surreal (or dare I say scarier!) time on this forum and I'm posting and reading on them, on and off, since around 2003

We haven't beaten this bástard yet, we still need to be vigilant and we still need the Government to wake up re: the Airports

But! Thank feck it's not the days of mid March

Non solum non ambulabit

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/30/us-buys-up-world-stock-of-key-covid-19-drug?

US buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug remdesivir.

A sign of things to come if vaccine becomes available.

Cork Boy 53

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Remembering these threads in mid March, they moved so fast I nicknamed them "The Daily Blur". At one stage Beasty needed to create a new one every 48 hours

I can't remember a more surreal (or dare I say scarier!) time on this forum and I'm posting and reading on them, on and off, since around 2003

We haven't beaten this bástard yet, we still need to be vigilant and we still need the Government to wake up re: the Airports

But! Thank feck it's not the days of mid March

If people become complacent and ignore the health measures those days will be back again and sooner than many seem to believe as well.

Foghach

Arghus wrote: »

Don't you know that Michael Levitt - remember him? - said that it would burn itself out before now?

It wasn't like he didn't know about what he was talking about and his "conclusions" were based on false methodology - and was latched onto and repeated ad nasuem by others who equally didn't know what they were talking about either.

In March, a GP (I'll spare their blushes) said in a newspaper that the pandemic was completely hyped out of proportion and that fewer than 10 people would die in the three months April-June 2020.

Plumbthedepths

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

If people become complacent and ignore the health measures those days will be back again and sooner than many seem to believe as well.

Those days won't be back as the majority are adhering to the advice, you even commented on such after witnessing it yourself. So seriously what's with this constant desire to spread misery?

Arghus

Foghach wrote: »

In March, a GP (I'll spare their blushes) said in a newspaper that the pandemic was completely hyped out of proportion and that fewer than 10 people would die in the three months April-June 2020.

Name and shame.

ShineOn7

Foghach wrote: »

In March, a GP (I'll spare their blushes) said in a newspaper that the pandemic was completely hyped out of proportion and that fewer than 10 people would die in the three months April-June 2020.

An Irish GP?

Foghach

Arghus wrote: »

Name and shame.

I'd say they've suffered enough embarrassment already.

GT89

So it seems some of the left who had started banging on about blm are now going back to talking about ICUs and ventilators in order to get you to wear a mask

Dante7

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Been told by a reliable source that vaccine production is to start in Cork in the next few weeks. No idea which vaccine it is but 95% positive this is true.

Get CorkBhoy on the case. He'll soon get to the bottom of it and let them know if they are following the correct manufacturing protocols.

Foghach

ShineOn7 wrote: »

An Irish GP?

Yes.

ACitizenErased

I honestly can't see a scenario like March happening again. Our hospitals know what to do now, our testing works (it was an absolute disaster) and people are tuned in (believe it or not).

Plumbthedepths

Foghach wrote: »

In March, a GP (I'll spare their blushes) said in a newspaper that the pandemic was completely hyped out of proportion and that fewer than 10 people would die in the three months April-June 2020.

Hindsight is great isn't it?

Foghach

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Hindsight is great isn't it?

20/20 vision.

Arghus

Foghach wrote: »

I'd say they've suffered enough embarrassment already.

I'm trying to think... Irish GP.... contrarian...Marcus DeBrun?

Marty Bird

Beasty wrote: »

So it's here - 19 weeks ago we had no cases. 19 days ago we had 25,237. In those past 19 days we've had 237 cases - an average of less than 27 compared to a peak of over 1,000

This thread has "survived" for 33 days - the original one was on the go for 34

Welcome to thread number 19..

And Liverpool have their 19th title the most important 19 of them all..

Plumbthedepths

Arghus wrote: »

I'm trying to think... Irish GP.... contrarian...Marcus DeBrun?

Doubtful tbh based on this.

https://www.thejournal.ie/doctor-resigns-medical-council-5079141-Apr2020/

Cork Boy 53

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Those days won't be back as the majority are adhering to the advice, you even commented on such after witnessing it yourself. So seriously what's with this constant desire to spread misery?

You obviously missed the first word of my previous post. If people become complacent especially after the pubs fully reopen with muppets climbing on top of one another etc etc then don`t be surprised if there is a huge spike in cases and hospitalisations.

Arghus

Christ, more heartbreaking stuff in the doc tonight.

Foghach

Arghus wrote: »

I'm trying to think... Irish GP.... contrarian...Marcus DeBrun?

No, but from the newspaper report he seemed just an ordinary GP. From the report he didn't seem to be a contrarian, just an ordinary GP.

Cork Boy 53

Dante7 wrote: »

Get CorkBhoy on the case. He'll soon get to the bottom of it and let them know if they are following the correct manufacturing protocols.

No Ned Broy picture from you tonight? Tut tut.:rolleyes:

Plumbthedepths

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

You obviously missed the first word of my previous post. If people become complacent especially after the pubs fully reopen with muppets climbing on top of one another etc etc then don`t be surprised if there is a huge spike in cases and hospitalisations.

IF... IF.... my aunt had testicles.......

ShineOn7

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/30/us-buys-up-world-stock-of-key-covid-19-drug

The US has bought up virtually all the stocks for the next three months of one of the two drugs proven to work against Covid-19, leaving none for the UK, Europe or most of the rest of the world.


Experts and campaigners are alarmed both by the US unilateral action on remdesivir and the wider implications, for instance in the event of a vaccine becoming available. The Trump administration has already shown that it is prepared to outbid and outmanoeuvre all other countries to secure the medical supplies it needs for the US.


“They’ve got access to most of the drug supply [of remdesivir], so there’s nothing for Europe,” said Dr Andrew Hill, senior visiting research fellow at Liverpool University.

Wow. So where does that leave EU?

ChikiChiki

Watching last night's Prime Time Investigates. There is some selfless people in this world. These people are heroes absolute heroes.

That Lisa lady from Granby centre, who came in every day to visit the elderly gentleman with no family has really restored my faith in humanity. Amazing person.

All heroes.

Cork Boy 53

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

IF... IF.... my aunt had testicles.......

She could make 250 euros an hour?

gmisk

Arghus wrote: »

Christ, more heartbreaking stuff in the doc tonight.

I watched the first one this evening.
Heartbreaking and uplifting in equal measure.
I think I would need to leave it a day or two before I am fit for part two.

giveitholly

Brilliant to see the Jesuit priest pull through on the rte documentary