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How will schools be able to go back in September?

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  • #3242
    History Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Tommysocks11 wrote: »
    Teachers want to do sweet f**c all and still get paid, what about us who work full time and need our kids to be minded in creche or school, other countries have reopened schools but our morons are afraid of re opening in 3 months time....its a laugh

    You're ignorant of the facts, potstirring or uninformed if that is your honest opinion.


  • #3243
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Hopefully. Can't stand the remote teaching lark. My class are pretty much done as well. They are bored and fed up with it as am I. Just give me a noisy day in school with laughter and tears any day.

    This is how I'm feeling today! I'm so fed up! The weather today isnt helping either. But the kids have had enough too. I miss my classroom and the kids but would rather holidays start and go back mid August.

    Also sick listening to the kite flying in the media. Its benefitting nobody! What is Joe McHugh babbling on about today?


  • #3244
    khalessi
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    basic summary of what he is at


  • #3245
    downthemiddle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Tommysocks11 wrote: »
    Teachers want to do sweet f**c all and still get paid, what about us who work full time and need our kids to be minded in creche or school, other countries have reopened schools but our morons are afraid of re opening in 3 months time....its a laugh
    Come on Tommy try to be original. Pull up your socks and go again.


  • #3246
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    What is Joe McHugh babbling on about today?

    Nothing really. Currently answering a question regarding a school which is 4 short for saving a teacher. Noting strategic at all.


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  • #3247
    Murple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Murple


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    If you think children play at 2m distance....

    I want my child back at school for the social aspect, that's all. I've done all the homework and more with her.

    You mentioned that your child was in a class of 20 and suggested they could go back 5 a day- presumably only 5 to allow for social distancing of 2m. Otherwise why suggest 5 children a day?
    You want your child to go back to school for the social aspect yet you won't allow her to play with her friends.
    You are keeping your child away from her friends as you say they won't play 2m apart. Do you think she will magically stay 2m away from her classmates in school or will it not matter because then you can blame the teacher?


  • #3248
    jrosen
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    We have a week off from school. I always hate when the school takes this week off in normal times but tbh im so fed up with the school stuff this is a welcome break even for me.
    I can see on edmodo those engaging and those not but I know the class families and we have a lot of 2 working parent families, our teacher is encouraging the kids to post work or at the very least send it to him directly. Its been really nice to see the banter they have with him back and forth on edmodo. This is our third time to have this teacher and he's big on group work and class discussion so I do feel this is a challenge for him.

    Secondary kid is done.


  • #3249
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    There are just a lot of people angry that teachers are off and being paid

    That's the main thing I get from this thread


  • #3250
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    There are just a lot of people angry that teachers are off and being paid

    That's the main thing I get from this thread

    See the thing is most teachers aren't off. You only hear about the ones who aren't putting their best foot forward for whatever reason.


  • #3251
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    beggars_bush wrote: »
    There are just a lot of people angry that teachers are off and being paid

    That's the main thing I get from this thread

    Something I've learnt about Irish people and their priorites: wHen the pubs had to close - damn, but understandbale and accepted. Schools close - WTF?! NO! Who's going to look after our kids??!?! THey can't do this! AGGHHHHH!!!! PANIC!!!!!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #3252
    dundalkfc10
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    beggars_bush wrote: »
    There are just a lot of people angry that teachers are off and being paid

    That's the main thing I get from this thread

    I work in Public Service, as My Dept would have about 10 diff sections in our building. 6 of the sections are off doing nothing on full pay. Its not only teachers


  • #3253
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    See the thing is most teachers aren't off. You only hear about the ones who aren't putting their best foot forward for whatever reason.

    It's always the case, negative experiences will always be talked about more than positive ones but that's just human nature.

    A lot of parents here have had similar experience to me in the one email a week situation but there are likely many multiples of that for parents whos teachers are engaging well you just don't hear about them.


  • #3254
    jrosen
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Something I've learnt about Irish people and their priorites: wHen the pubs had to close - damn, but understandbale and accepted. Schools close - WTF?! NO! Who's going to look after our kids??!?! THey can't do this! AGGHHHHH!!!! PANIC!!!!!

    Im sure some parents are panicking, because some parents are working and some are still being expected to work 40+ hours a week. All while their kids are home and their childcare is closed.

    Other parents are concerned about the lack of education to date and the unknowns for the coming school year.


  • #3255
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    jrosen wrote: »
    Im sure some parents are panicking, because some parents are working and some are still being expected to work 40+ hours a week. All while their kids are home and their childcare is closed.

    Other parents are concerned about the lack of education to date and the unknowns for the coming school year.

    Thankfully the creches are back open the end of the month so that will definitely help a lot of working parents and it does look like discussions are happening around accelerating some of the road map.

    But yes something has got to give in terms of families where both parents are trying to continue working and their kids are above creche going age.

    Some employers will be flexible to a point but others just won't have a choice, casual childcare is being utilised at the moment but the current demand far exceeds the supply.

    I don't know how it can be solved :(


  • #3256
    jrosen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Yes it will help alot of parents when creches re-open.

    Pre covid there were creches no longer offering after school care so lots of families with school going kids were already under pressure trying to find an alternative childcare option.


  • #3257
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    Looks like plans for the summer education programme are going ahead, more to be confirmed next week by the looks of it.

    Should be easy enough to manage given the limited number of children involved. Hope they are able to arrange as quickly as possible and any guidelines can be used as a template to work from for end of August.

    Also great to see road map being accelerated in parts, hopefully more of the same to come in 3 weeks time.


  • #3258
    mcsean2163
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    History Queen wrote: »
    Hopefully for your child and every other child in the country schools will open as close to normal as possible in September. As a teacher all this kite flying going on in the media about blended learning is worrying. Our numbers are rapidly improving so hopefully they are just headline makers rather than based on real possibilities.

    I'm curious though as to why you won't allow your child some limited socialisation now as the previous poster suggested? It is permissible under current guidelines.

    I've been worried about us, as I see us as higher risk due to my wife being a health worker. I see virtually no risk to under 40s but I'm not nphet. Dd has done zoom calls but I'm not sure what you regard limited socialization. Put a screen between them? I couldn't keep her and her friends apart for a minute. As soon as we'd called to a friend's house the rule would be broken. These are kids under 8 not teenagers.

    It's not permitted to play without social distancing of 2m. If you have been allowing it you are breaking the guidelines and to be honest, I wouldn't hold it against you.


  • #3259
    mcsean2163
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    Murple wrote: »
    You mentioned that your child was in a class of 20 and suggested they could go back 5 a day- presumably only 5 to allow for social distancing of 2m. Otherwise why suggest 5 children a day?
    You want your child to go back to school for the social aspect yet you won't allow her to play with her friends.
    You are keeping your child away from her friends as you say they won't play 2m apart. Do you think she will magically stay 2m away from her classmates in school or will it not matter because then you can blame the teacher?

    The government rule is 2m. If they were back at school the government rule would be over. That's it. Professor Luke O'Neill spoke of class pods etc. So that the spread of it happened would be smaller.

    I am completely against 2m for children but abiding by it still. Maybe it's time I gave up like everyone else...


  • #3260
    Treppen
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Something I've learnt about Irish people and their priorites: wHen the pubs had to close - damn, but understandbale and accepted. Schools close - WTF?! NO! Who's going to look after our kids??!?! THey can't do this! AGGHHHHH!!!! PANIC!!!!!

    .. 3 months to go till end of July and the government isn't giving us any details of plans on the leaving cert and we have to give little Johnny a predicted grade... my knickers are twisting, They're stressed, cancel the leaving cert, you can't distance ...

    Pubs open no bother. Hey we should try opening primary ASAP before the end of June.


  • #3261
    Treppen
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    Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »
    Looks like plans for the summer education programme are going ahead, more to be confirmed next week by the looks of it.

    Should be easy enough to manage given the limited number of children involved. Hope they are able to arrange as quickly as possible and any guidelines can be used as a template to work from for end of August.

    Also great to see road map being accelerated in parts, hopefully more of the same to come in 3 weeks time.

    Wonder will they get the July provision teachers after shafting so many and withholding pay last year.


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  • #3262
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    Treppen wrote: »
    Wonder will they get the July provision teachers after shafting so many and withholding pay last year.

    Hopefully they will have enough between teachers who sign up and SNA's to provide for the parents that do decide to send their kids.

    They need it more than most.


  • #3263
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    There is a lot of speculation that outdoor camps like Cúl Camps may be allowed to open this summer. I wonder if part of the reasoning for that is a sort of test in advance of schools returning.


  • #3264
    kandr10
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    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I've been worried about us, as I see us as higher risk due to my wife being a health worker. I see virtually no risk to under 40s but I'm not nphet. Dd has done zoom calls but I'm not sure what you regard limited socialization. Put a screen between them? I couldn't keep her and her friends apart for a minute. As soon as we'd called to a friend's house the rule would be broken. These are kids under 8 not teenagers.

    It's not permitted to play without social distancing of 2m. If you have been allowing it you are breaking the guidelines and to be honest, I wouldn't hold it against you.

    If you take a face value your belief that there’s little risk to under 40s, would you not accept that under 40s could spread it to those people in their lives over 40?


  • #3265
    History Queen
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    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I've been worried about us, as I see us as higher risk due to my wife being a health worker. I see virtually no risk to under 40s but I'm not nphet. Dd has done zoom calls but I'm not sure what you regard limited socialization. Put a screen between them? I couldn't keep her and her friends apart for a minute. As soon as we'd called to a friend's house the rule would be broken. These are kids under 8 not teenagers.

    It's not permitted to play without social distancing of 2m. If you have been allowing it you are breaking the guidelines and to be honest, I wouldn't hold it against you.

    You know your child best. I have been abiding by 2m rule, I took my son (2) to a local river (stream really) and met his aunt and cousin (4)there. The two boys happily played throwing stones in the water from opposite river banks. Not ideal obviously but a small bit of socialisation. The same woman took her older daughter (6) to meet her best friend for socially distanced teddy bears/dolly picnic in a local park where the two mams set up picnics separated but close enough for the girls to talk. Then let them ride bikes along the trail around the park after.

    What I mean by limited socialisation in school is like the examples we saw on the news of other countries where children played separately in chalk squares on the playground. I'd hate to see that here and hope social distancing can be avoided in schools.


  • #3266
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    iguana wrote: »
    There is a lot of speculation that outdoor camps like Cúl Camps may be allowed to open this summer. I wonder if part of the reasoning for that is a sort of test in advance of schools returning.

    Group sports can train as of next Monday so I don't see much difference if they make some tweaks.

    I think if the weather is good then it could be kept outdoors anyway, probably limit to smaller amount of bookings and each group is usually separated by age. So in theory a small group of kids playing/training together outdoors.

    The problem (as it always is with mainly outdoor activity camps) is the reliance on the weather. If its bad what happens then? There would have to be a contingency that doesn't involve all the separate groups congregating in the clubhouse together.

    It could be done but needs a bit of planning and extra coaches too.


  • #3267
    khalessi
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    Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »
    Group sports can train as of next Monday so I don't see much difference if they make some tweaks.

    I think if the weather is good then it could be kept outdoors anyway, probably limit to smaller amount of bookings and each group is usually separated by age. So in theory a small group of kids playing/training together outdoors.

    The problem (as it always is with mainly outdoor activity camps) is the reliance on the weather. If its bad what happens then? There would have to be a contingency that doesn't involve all the separate groups congregating in the clubhouse together.

    It could be done but needs a bit of planning and extra coaches too.

    Was just talking about this earlier, grand if dry but if it rains they will probably just play through it, well if my kids coach is involved they will lol


  • #3268
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    freak scence wrote: »
    teachers will need to turn off netflix and work shower of karens

    Oh Netflix thats what the problem was! Thank you I feel saved. I knew I was going wrong somewhere, will use NowTV instead, thanks for tip.


  • #3269
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    morebabies wrote: »
    This is an interesting proposal for the UK and I'd love to see it happen here for families with vulnerable members, a fully online school system, centralised, mirroring the national curriculum, so that if there are future disruptions, children can transition smoothly to a working online platform, and families with vulnerable members can rely on it 100% of the time if they need it.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/30/the-idea-of-a-national-open-school-is-an-excellent-one-the-bbc-is-ready-to-make-it-happen
    It's such a shame that Irish school children are missing out on an education because they can't access the BBC materials and their own government have nothing even remotely comparable.

    I taught my nephew how to use a proxy to access it but I wouldn't feel comfortable showing a class of ten year olds that :D


  • #3270
    downthemiddle
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    freak scence wrote: »
    quality of nowtv , is **** compared to netflix, so are your dopey comments

    Why are you comparing her comments to Netflix?


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  • #3271
    Beasty
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    freak scence wrote: »
    teachers will need to turn off netflix and work shower of karens
    freak scence wrote: »
    quality of nowtv , is **** compared to netflix, so are your dopey comments
    freak scence wrote: »
    coz shes a karen . Whats your grief

    Do not post in this thread again


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