Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings

greensheep777 · 03-06-2020 07:50PM

nickkinneg wrote: »

Just reported that the R rate in Berlin has risen back up to 1.95

Yesterday's news. It's at 1.32 https://www.berlin.de/sen/gpg/service/presse/2020/pressemitteilung.940565.php

greensheep777 · 03-06-2020 07:52PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

No "Bullying" going on, Holohan and the HSE are doing what the caretaker government asked them to do 3 months or so ago.

What we don't have in this country is leadership!

Why we have to look at the daily HSE live briefings at this stage of the pandemic is ridiculous.

Now is the time for Politicians not the HSE to take the lead, and work on the Economy. None of them have stepped up to do this.

The health service needs to be restarted now for all other treatments.

I'm wondering if they're aiming for 0 cases behind the scenes so they can claim that we've achieved the same as NZ.

frillyleaf · 03-06-2020 07:52PM

road_high wrote: »

Another chain done with this lockdown rubbish and reopening - https://blog.lifestylesports.com/lifestylesports-store-reopening-times-information/?_bta_tid=40902752455476435262770569534687187428436621656865459494266006493406850622548984990340652460214919469577

I take it almost all retail stores are going with next week for reopening? What defines a “small retail store”? Many will just reduce floor area to comply etc and more power to them

Surely they won’t be open up until the dates stated for larger stores . The smaller local retail shops will pick up badly needed business over the three weeks before larger stores are opened up again.

road_high · 03-06-2020 07:54PM

greensheep777 wrote: »

I'm wondering if they're aiming for 0 cases behind the scenes so they can claim that we've achieved the same as NZ.

Leo and simple Simon would have loved that alright, to join a fellow virtue signaller like Ms Ardenne. Unfortunately they missed the boat by about three months at this stage

road_high · 03-06-2020 07:56PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

Surely they won’t be open up until the dates stated for larger stores . The smaller local retail shops will pick up badly needed business over the three weeks before larger stores are opened up again.

My local Lifestyle is a fairly big store, definitely not small anyhow. Agree it would be good for smaller stores to get a heads start but they should have been two weeks ago at least

03-06-2020 07:59PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Small retail store lifestyle is not, fair play to them looking to get back up and running. So long as businesses put measures in place let them open

At what point does a large retail store become a small retail store. Relative to ikea everything is a small retail store

CruelSummer · 03-06-2020 08:01PM

Did I hear Mary Wilson’s radio show correctly today when I heard Simon Harris say he’s ‘concerned’ about 1 CASE of community transmission from yesterday’s figures? Yet he applauds a Dublin mass gathering parade and isn’t concerned with the thousands who will die from cancer and other illnesses?

rob316 · 03-06-2020 08:01PM

Brown Thomas are opening their stores from next week. To get around the restrictions they are dividing the ground floors into smaller individual shops with their own entrance/exit. Smart and brilliant

rob316 · 03-06-2020 08:06PM

nickkinneg wrote: »

Just reported that the R rate in Berlin has risen back up to 1.95

Doesn't matter no country is going back into lockdown

growleaves · 03-06-2020 08:10PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Did I hear Mary Wilson’s radio show correctly today when I heard Simon Harris say he’s ‘concerned’ about 1 CASE of community transmission from yesterday’s figures? Yet he applauds a Dublin mass gathering parade and isn’t concerned with the thousands who will die from cancer and other illnesses?

The complete opposition between the lockdown on the one hand and the protesting/rioting (in the US) on the other, both either encouraged or condoned by the media and the majority of the international political elite, confirms that there is some bad faith at play.

It is very, very important that we lock down and practice social distancing - except when it isn't.

Tenzor07 · 03-06-2020 08:10PM

greensheep777 wrote: »

I'm wondering if they're aiming for 0 cases behind the scenes so they can claim that we've achieved the same as NZ.

Maybe that's true, however the HSE/Nphet are advising the Government, and they are supposed to decide on balance what's best to do based on this advise for the country...
What's happening is the caretaker govt. aren't doing their job in making decisions, and are purely following the recommendations in protecting the HSE directly from Dr. Holohan and his team.

Ginger n Lemon · 03-06-2020 08:19PM

Just watched virgin media news there

Main presenter says "6.1bn hole in the exchequer receipts, here is someone for more detail"

Someone: "dept of finance said that corporation tax, VAT and Income tax receipts are bigger than expected, so its not all bad, back over to you main presenter"

We have the most dumbest news channels out there.

And ofcourse, idiot didnt think that corporation tax receipts have nothing to do with month of May or April.......... :rolleyes:

But Paschal keeps saying "I have a lot of confidence". I wish he actually had ideas to stimulate economy other than borrowing our way out of trouble.

PS not watching virgin media news for another 2 months now.

road_high · 03-06-2020 08:19PM

rob316 wrote: »

Doesn't matter no country is going back into lockdown

Indeed. The farce we’ve went through the part three months will never happen again. Business simply will not go close like this ever again.

road_high · 03-06-2020 08:20PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Just watched virgin media news there

Main presenter says "6.1bn hole in the exchequer, here is someone for more detail"

Someone: "dept of finance said that corporation tax, VAT and Income tax receipts are bigger than expected, so its not all bad, back over to you main presenter"

We have the most dumbest news channels out there.

And ofcourse, idiot didnt think that corporation tax receipts have nothing to do with month of May or April.......... :rolleyes:

But Paschal keeps saying "I have a lot of confidence". I wish he actually had ideas to stimulate economy other than borrowing our way out of trouble.

PS not watching virgin media news for another 2 months now.

Paschal is a wet blanket. Asking him for ideas, you’d be better asking a group of 5 year olds. They’d probably have more to say too

Assetbacked · 03-06-2020 08:30PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-a-further-123-cases-reported-in-meat-processing-plants-over-past-week-1.4269933?mode=amp

123 cases in the past week from meat processing plant workers, 8 in the Roma community, 3 in direct provision and 9 in homeless community bringing a total of 143 in the past week. It's a farce that we aren't accelerating the easing of restrictions with this data. If the BLM protests aren't declared illegal for this weekend then I'm done with giving this virus much attention anymore and any restrictions/social distancing nonsense (I will likely attend such protests BTW).

https://www.ryanair.com/try-somewhere-new/ie/en/travel-guides/10-of-europe-s-sunniest-cities/

Maybe a break in July is what I need. Fair play Ryanair.

VonLuck · 03-06-2020 08:31PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

We have the most dumbest news channels out there.

The irony!

mooseknunkle · 03-06-2020 08:32PM

rob316 wrote: »

Brown Thomas are opening their stores from next week. To get around the restrictions they are dividing the ground floors into smaller individual shops with their own entrance/exit. Smart and brilliant

Its actually crazy that a business has to do that to open back up,i was in homestore and more yesterday for the first time since they reopened and they had all the homeware sections closed off ,i was with my mother and we were saying how ****ing stupid is it that you cant even buy a cup and a plate but you can buy a BBQ!,whoever came up with homewares not opening needs their head examined,the longer this goes on the crazier it gets.

VonLuck · 03-06-2020 08:41PM

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Its actually crazy that a business has to do that to open back up,i was in homestore and more yesterday for the first time since they reopened and they had all the homeware sections closed off ,i was with my mother and we were saying how ****ing stupid is it that you cant even buy a cup and a plate but you can buy a BBQ!,whoever came up with homewares not opening needs their head examined,the longer this goes on the crazier it gets.

The government had to draw the line somewhere and homeware happened to be outside that line.

It would be a dangerous game opening all shops on the one day.

whisky_galore · 03-06-2020 08:42PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

No announcement on the Cork ones Facebook page yet

Good if it is cancelled but the original Dublin one was a disgrace going ahead

Cork one still no signs of cancelling, their FB event page is naïve to say the least.

KrustyUCC · 03-06-2020 08:46PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Cork one still no signs of cancelling, their FB event page is naïve to say the least.

It's mad

No mass gatherings for the majority but sure as its a protest go ahead

The protest should be banned by the Guards ASAP

Ginger n Lemon · 03-06-2020 08:47PM

VonLuck wrote: »

The government had to draw the line somewhere and homeware happened to be outside that line.

It would be a dangerous game opening all shops on the one day.

A dangerous game?

What do you call a 5 month lockdown for pubs, gyms and cinemas?

Govt doesnt have to draw any line, there is no scientific backup for 90% of measures or restrictions. We are doing things by "science" that only applies in Ireland.

whisky_galore · 03-06-2020 08:50PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's mad

No mass gatherings for the majority but sure as its a protest go ahead

The protest should be banned by the Guards ASAP

People losing their minds over it on Cork Beo, which, inexplicably is giving time and meeting place along with Tony H's warning. That this isn't a good idea right now hasn't dawned on the organisers.

VonLuck · 03-06-2020 08:51PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

A dangerous game?

What do you call a 5 month lockdown for pubs, gyms and cinemas?

Govt doesnt have to draw any line, there is no scientific backup for 90% of measures or restrictions. We are doing things by "science" that only applies in Ireland.

Most, if not all countries are doing phased opening of shops.

gral6 · 03-06-2020 08:54PM

God bless Simon Harris and Tony Holahan for saving all Ireland !

hotmail.com · 03-06-2020 08:56PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

People losing their minds over it on Cork Beo, which, inexplicably is giving time and meeting place along with Tony H's warning. That this isn't a good idea right now hasn't dawned on the organisers.

The same crowd that were doing the outrage about Cheltenham a few weeks ago no doubt.

CruelSummer · 03-06-2020 09:03PM

VonLuck wrote: »

The government had to draw the line somewhere and homeware happened to be outside that line.

It would be a dangerous game opening all shops on the one day.

Except it wouldn’t? They’d all be following the same guidelines. If people feel at risk, then they don’t have to go to the other shops that reopen?

Sweet.Science · 03-06-2020 09:07PM

If I was a small business owner I'd open my place from monday

If the hippies can march and protest theres no way I'd let my livelihood go down the drain

Ginger n Lemon · 03-06-2020 09:07PM

VonLuck wrote: »

Most, if not all countries are doing phased opening of shops.

But why are most, actually all, of them countries doing it quicker than us?

As is us, Scotland are competing for slowest kid in the class award in entire Europe...

end of the road · 03-06-2020 09:13PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

But why are most, actually all, of them countries doing it quicker than us?

As is us, Scotland are competing for slowest kid in the class award in entire Europe...

because they started lockdown earlier.
and as already explained our roadmap has the ability to be speeded up built into it right from the start and is not set in stone.

Idbatterim · 03-06-2020 09:14PM

All fg have banged on about the last few years is the economy the economy... it doesn't matter a fcuk now does it fg? #theeconomymatters

I totally underestimated just how obscene this banana republic was...

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - Read OP for Mod Warnings