Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Benimar

RGARDINR wrote: »

Have been reading this thread every day at different points. Really in your heart of hearts if you had to say if they will end the restrictions early when would you hazard a guess or will they do you honestly reckon just keep it till the end. I see loads of posts saying this is got to end now but we all know that won't happen. So if you had to put your money on it when would you think it will? Brought forward a few weeks or they listen to people and we wake up tomorrow and hey presto pubs etc. Back open. Or just goes the way of the steps the government have given us time line wise? We all know how slow the wheels turn in Ireland.

My personal view is it will be slow and steady, with maybe a couple of things being brought forward and maybe SD being reduced to 1.5m.

I’m only basing it on discussions with my job and football club, where the overwhelming view is that things need to be done right, not quickly.

Idbatterim

RGARDINR wrote: »

Have been reading this thread every day at different points. Really in your heart of hearts if you had to say if they will end the restrictions early when would you hazard a guess or will they do you honestly reckon just keep it till the end. I see loads of posts saying this is got to end now but we all know that won't happen. So if you had to put your money on it when would you think it will? Brought forward a few weeks or they listen to people and we wake up tomorrow and hey presto pubs etc. Back open. Or just goes the way of the steps the government have given us time line wise? We all know how slow the wheels turn in Ireland.

in terms of business, if businesses open en masse, they will have to bring it forward I reckon. I hope this happens. Again, who is asking lockdown4eva crew to go near these places... Nobody!

They can just hide away and do everything online from now on, never leave home. they could get struck by lightning etc...

gral6

Health Minister Simon Harris self-isolated for days last week after displaying coronavirus symptoms

However, test results showed that Mr Harris did not have coronavirus and he has since returned to work.

He is even more mad now, after mysterious recovery Useless idiot

road_high

gral6 wrote: »

Health Minister Simon Harris self-isolated for days last week after displaying coronavirus symptoms

However, test results showed that Mr Harris did not have coronavirus and he has since returned to work.

He is even more mad now, after mysterious recovery Useless idiot

The chap is extremely unhealthy looking. Not surprised tbh. Stiff breeze would blow him over

end of the road

gral6 wrote: »

Health Minister Simon Harris self-isolated for days last week after displaying coronavirus symptoms

However, test results showed that Mr Harris did not have coronavirus and he has since returned to work.

He is even more mad now, after mysterious recovery Useless idiot

so he suspected he had some possible symptoms, followed the advice, got tested and was found to not have the virus, but yet he is mad apparently.
yeah, sure.

rob316

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

Not a single person in Ireland or the UK

hmmm

road_high wrote: »

The chap is extremely unhealthy looking. Not surprised tbh. Stiff breeze would blow him over

I understand he has a pre-existing condition which would make him at risk should he get coronovirus, yet is still working his arse off trying to do his best for the country and not just sitting around on Internet forums all day.

Micky 32

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

I know of at least 8 ( 2 were my cousins)

alta stare

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

Iv asked this very question to loads of people and not one knew of anyone that got diagnosed with it. My own mother was tested alright but she was negative.

hmmm

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

I heard a doctor say he thinks about 1% of the population has had this - so you're not going to know many, about 1 in a hundred people.

Arghus

Idbatterim wrote: »

I am going to say, they don't have inept morons in charge, am I right?

Lads all of the lockdown merchants, I am moving past the frustration stage and getting ready for the point in a few months, that the financial implications come crashing down on these fools and they realise, oh maybe the corona virus wasn't the only thing that mattered!

Save your cash now, the crash is coming! Ill be back here to gloat, hopefully with many of you, when the bill arrives...

Back to gloat.

Classy. Hopefully nobody close to you will be effected.

No one has denied that the lockdown and restrictions will come at an enormous economic and social cost.

SusieBlue

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

I’m also in Cork, my friends mam had it, she’s a nurse in a GP clinic and had been in close contact with a confirmed case. I don’t know anyone else that was even tested.

She was one of the people whose test was outsourced to Germany, she was waiting almost a month for her result by which time she’d long recovered.

fleet_admiral

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

A neighbours very elderly mother died from it.

Arghus

Arghus wrote: »

Back to gloat.

Classy. Hopefully nobody close to you will be effected.

No one has denied that the lockdown and restrictions will come at an enormous economic and social cost.

If you were to believe their posts before this they were a FG voter and voted for them in the last election despite them being unhappy with the whole cabinet before then.

Strange how the FG voters on here voted for people they believed to be incompetent even before the election.

road_high

hmmm wrote: »

I understand he has a pre-existing condition which would make him at risk should he get coronovirus, yet is still working his arse off trying to do his best for the country and not just sitting around on Internet forums all day.

Get out the violins...ya reckon? He seems to have plenty of time for virtue signalling on social media all the same- or is this what passes as work as health minister these days. I deplore his condescending, holier than thou pompous attitude. He has extremely limited ability as evidenced by any outcomes he’s involved in. He’s a good debater on tv I’ll give him that.
Lots of people have pre existing conditions, they don’t expect kitten gloved or exceptional treatment.

thebaz

hmmm wrote: »

I understand he has a pre-existing condition which would make him at risk should he get coronovirus, yet is still working his arse off trying to do his best for the country and not just sitting around on Internet forums all day.

yet his over-cautious policy is forcing thousands and thousands of healthy individuals to sit around on Internet forums all day -
I feal for him with his pre-existing condition, but he is not right person to lead this fight , and is pushing thousand and thousands over the edge incuding me , the amount of business closing down is horrific , school kids are wandering around in packs obeying zero social distancing, just an extended school holiday - Harris and Dr. Tony should step down.

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just mentioned on the tonight show that Leo wrote to the FG party tonight and in it he says he is concerned that many are calling for the speeding up of restrictions and he thinks it's better to adopt the slow and steady approach.

Last week it was he wanted to speed up the reopening as well. Hard to tell where he stands each week and I would have voted FG prevously.

Martin Heyden from FG on and is saying they hope to speed things up if everything keeps going the way its going

Leo's great at flip flopping especially when his leader Tony slaps down Leo's ideas

Fine Gael getting scared since the leak to the Indo on Sunday

frillyleaf

VonLuck wrote: »

Not at all. Shops are employing social distancing restrictions limiting the number inside. It's when multiple shops are open in close proximity that you get a problem. Have you ever seen Grafton Street on a normal day? Swarms of people. Social distancing would be very difficult to enforce on a street and is outside of the control of individual shop owners.

Yes it’s probably to do with safety management of the people queuing to get into places and the resources that it would take for this to work

stephenjmcd

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Leo's great at flip flopping especially when his leader Tony slaps down Leo's ideas

Fine Gael getting scared since the leak to the Indo on Sunday

Yet in the indo tonight theres a small paragraph on it in a story relating to what FG would like to do in the next gov. Matt Cooper read out something different that he said would be in the times tomorrow morning so I'd like to read this actual email in context and not rely on any paper or journalist to give a summary.

For what it's worth.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/lower-childcare-costs-and-social-welfare-reform-among-varadkars-promises-if-fine-gael-return-to-government-39258709.html
Last paragraph:
"He expressed concern at calls to accelerate the reopening roadmap. “Our plan to re-open the country can be accelerated if it (sic) safe to do so. But, I want to be confident that it is safe before making that move,” he added.

vid36

i know ten people who had it, one elderly lady passed away tragically but the rest are recovered.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

In Ireland, three people, a couple who live on our lane and a friend from work who lives in Galway. All O.K. thankfully.

Have family in Germany and the U.S. and I've worked with a couple of other MNs and still keep in touch with work friends from Europe and the U.S. so heard of different friends and family of theirs catching it and unfortunately one or two deaths. The saddest was a guy I worked with from New York whose son died from it due to a underlying heart condition.

Wanderlust2021

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

3 people from my extended family had it, a kid and his grandparents. My mother and brother had to self isolate as they were with the child, as did the kids aunt, uncle and cousin. So it is real. Another gentleman I know had it, got it bad and lost 3 stone for the time he was sick. Horrendous

vid36

My cousin and her family had it in England, one of her kids also needed hospitalisation but thankfully, they are all fully recovered. I forgot about them so that makes at least 15 people I know.

Arghus

I know two people that had it. One was pretty okay. The other guy was quite sick for a few weeks and he's a fit guy in his twenties.

A friend of my neighbour and his friend's son both got it. The older man died. I don't know much about his medical history, but he wasn't elderly. The son was in hospital, but has since recovered.

Sammy2012

vid36 wrote: »

i know ten people who had it, one elderly lady passed away tragically but the rest are recovered.

Same as know 10 people who had it and also of 2 people who passed away from it.

major bill

rob316 wrote: »

Honest question to posters how many people do you know who got diagnosed with this? I'm in Cork and I know 1 person.

Mother in law and sister in law both tested positive ,the mother In law said she never wants to experience it again It was that bad but luckily didn’t hit the lungs , half a dozen from the area I grew up in died from it that I know off with many more in ICU, my missus granny also passed away from it! I feel it was deadly and had the the potential to be really deadly if the country hadn’t of gone into lockdown when it did! That said and with evidence that a second wave is not inevitable we should start opening up the country quicker!

Naos

People complained we had no roadmap. Our government gave a roadmap.
People complained the roadmap was too slow. Our government said the speed of our roadmap would depend on the progress we make.

So what do those people do next?

Went to black market barbers (because a haircut is that important), disobeyed restrictions, sided with protestors, rallied behind pubs & shops to forge the phases and open anyway.

And now they are complaining that the government are not speeding up the roadmap and wondering why.

vid36

The map is been speeded up but the government won't admit that.Look at all the businesses opening next week. I bet the vast majority of places will be open by the end of June except maybe problem areas like late bars and nightclubs.Hairdressers and hotels will get pushed forward too.

Naos

Naos wrote: »

People complained we had no roadmap. Our government gave a roadmap.
People complained the roadmap was too slow. Our government said the speed of our roadmap would depend on the progress we make.

So what do those people do next?

Went to black market barbers (because a haircut is that important), disobeyed restrictions, sided with protestors, rallied behind pubs & shops to forge the phases and open anyway.

And now they are complaining that the government are not speeding up the roadmap and wondering why.

A bizarre quarter of a year roadmap, with lots of vagueness included.

We still don’t know what progress is required.

The curve was flattened weeks ago, the illness is practically gone from the community and no evidence of second wave.

Why are we waiting for another 2+ months?
Did you not hear the financial figures quoted for the month of May?

Scary times ahead, and nothing to do with Covid.