Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

FintanMcluskey

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Yeah I think it’s time I either took unpaid leave or quit if I have to. Haven’t been happy for weeks but between the numbers and how bad people have become worth distancing I really would rather be alive than working.

Still don’t agree with the selfish Irish consensus that we should have sacrificed more people so they could go to the pub now though no matter how much “further along” we’d be.

Are you a teacher or what's your role?

PTH2009

Not a pub worker but in a similar grouping and even though we're getting payed something it's still the anxiety of waiting around not knowing what's the story. I'd prefer to be in work and not waiting around twiddling my tumbs

Mental health will become any even bigger issue

Ha Long Bay

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Fair enough Niallo, but when you say it worked, what are you basing that on?

Death rate? We are similar to Sweden

Sweden - Population 10 million - Deaths 5739

Ireland - Population 5 Million - Deaths 1763


Not similar at all.

FintanMcluskey

john4321 wrote: »

Sweden - Population 10 million - Deaths 5739

Ireland - Population 5 Million - Deaths 1763


Not similar at all.

This isnt lethal to all ages.

Its lethal to over 65s.

Sweden 2m- 5739

Ireland 650k- 1763

Including the full population is equivalent to lookin for infant deaths in nursing homes

Ha Long Bay

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

This isnt lethal to all ages.

Its lethal to over 65s.

Sweden 2m- 5739

Ireland 650k- 1763

Including the full population is equivalent to lookin for infant deaths in nursing homes

gral6

john4321 wrote: »

Sweden - Population 10 million - Deaths 5739

Ireland - Population 5 Million - Deaths 1763


Not similar at all.

Sweden +34 new cases today, without a lockdown.
Ireland + 84 new cases today with a lockdown.
Herd immunity is only way to go.

FintanMcluskey

john4321 wrote: »

Well that boloxoligy of a picture shut me right up.

That answer proves a point anyway

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Assume they have a substantial amount more ICU beds per 100k population to aid treatment for the vulnerable?

You can have an excellent health service with fewer ICU beds, y'know.

FintanMcluskey

gral6 wrote: »

Sweden +34 new cases today, without a lockdown.
Ireland + 84 new cases today with a lockdown.
Herd immunity is only way to go.

There was a poster here yesterday that ended up saying Sweden had a lockdown when the numbers didnt add up.

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

You can have an excellent health service with fewer ICU beds, y'know.

Ok thanks for that

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Ok thanks for that

You're very welcome.

robbiezero

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Oh good lord, such fantastic investigative journalism.

Pulitzer prize nominations for that fine piece

Cringeworthy stuff. Was like he was undercover in a Mexican drug cartel. Apes.

FintanMcluskey

robbiezero wrote: »

Cringeworthy stuff. Was like he was undercover in a Mexican drug cartel. Apes.

I could see things were about to kick off, so I got out of there

Ha Long Bay

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Well that boloxoligy of a picture shut me right up.

That answer proves a point anyway

All I did was try to highlight the statement you made about the death rate was incorrect.

You could have acknowledged the statement was incorrect and moved on but instead you decided to reply with a changed narrative which is disingenuous and contradicts your original statement which I had simply pointed out was incorrect.

This is a public forum where people just see a post like your original post and take it as fact, next thing its repeated that Ireland and Sweden has a "similar death rate" and then re-quote it as fact.


Another thing as I haven't posted much in this thread, I have not met or known a single person who has enjoyed or wanted the country to be shut down but the majority of people thankfully understood the reasons why it was required at the time.

This could have been a useful thread to discuss the re-opening plan but turned into a bit of a mess where people either wanted to wind other people up or look for some approval of going against public health advice.

FintanMcluskey

john4321 wrote: »

All I did was try to highlight the statement you made about the death rate was incorrect.

You could have acknowledged the statement was incorrect and moved on but instead you decided to reply with a changed narrative which is disingenuous and contradicts your original statement which I had simply pointed out was incorrect.

This is a public forum where people just see a post like your original post and take it as fact, next thing its repeated that Ireland and Sweden has a "similar death rate" and then re-quote it as fact.


Another thing as I haven't posted much in this thread, I have not met or known a single person who has enjoyed or wanted the country to be shut down but the majority of people thankfully understood the reasons why it was required at the time.

This could have been a useful thread to discuss the re-opening plan but turned into a bit of a mess where people either wanted to wind other people up or look for some approval of going against public health advice.

You posted a meme in response to figures that you didn't agree with.

Think about that.

Ha Long Bay

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You posted a meme in response to figures that you didn't agree with.

Think about that.

I didn't post a meme I posted a pic of 4 guys moving goalposts to illustrate what you did in your reply to my original post in some way to justify your original statement was correct.

Any thoughts on the rest of my last post or will we just leave it there?

mountgomery burns

If you asked a public health advisor honestly which of these things is more important in "gastro pubs": time limits, distance between tables, table service only, sanitizing facilities, limit on capacity or people having a meal with their food that cost 9 euro which do you think they would say is of least concern?

And yet what has all the debate surrounded, , and now had an undercover investigation from a current affairs show? It really is laughable.

Beasty

And so we finally get to Phase V