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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #9452
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fr336 wrote: »
    Good news, people! The UK now has the most excess deaths in the WORLD. On the plus side, it remains the 5th largest economy in the world. It's also a really lovely sunny day here. I'm feeling really positive about how things are going and look forward to getting the country back to work and prospering.

    You think the deaths of 1000's is good news,?wow without doubt one of the most disturbing comments on this thread.


  • #9453
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    fr336 wrote: »
    Good news: Austria, which started easing lockdown on April 14th, has reported case numbers for last few days: 34, 18, 36, 17, 50. Population 9 million.

    Bad news: Austria made face coverings compulsory.

    Doesn't take a genius to see how one can lead to the other.

    More good news later.

    What's your point?? They've been relatively low for the last month. We've been relatively low for the past week with no mandatory face coverings, Austria were hit before us, we've always said we're 2-3 weeks behind them in case numbers.

    Not sure what exactly your trying to get at. Both countries reporting low numbers at the moment.

    They're numbers are largely inline with Denmark who dont have mandatory face coverings either.

    While face coverings could well be useful in enclosed spaces your point of it doesn't take a genius to see how one can lead to another can be countered with the likes of Denmark


  • #9454
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    The NI dashboard is excellent in terms of the information provided, unfortunately however, 2 more deaths today:

    https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9


  • #9455
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Uriel. wrote: »
    And they seem to have got plenty.
    But why were they not prepared? Again a billion euro of funding goes towards these private for profit businesses.

    Keep spinning, don't get to dizzy though.


  • #9456
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You think the deaths of 1000's is good news,?wow without doubt one of the most disturbing comments on this thread.

    You are such a troll. Five minutes ago you were accusing me of being too negative, scaremongering. Now I post a sarcastic post showing how silly posters like you are with your "so much scaremongering going on" and you're posting this crap. Troll!


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  • #9457
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    fr336 wrote: »
    WHERE have I said all going to die? Even at its worst Corona wouldn't get a million of the population. How much is acceptable to you? 50,000? 100,000?

    You didn’t but it’s the way your posts come across. We have lots to be positive about at the moment from where i’m standing.


  • #9458
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    What's your point?? They've been relatively low for the last month. We've been relatively low for the past week with no mandatory face coverings, Austria were hit before us, we've always said we're 2-3 weeks behind them in case numbers.

    Not sure what exactly your trying to get at. Both countries reporting low numbers at the moment.

    They're numbers are largely inline with Denmark who dont have mandatory face coverings either.

    While face coverings could well be useful in enclosed spaces your point of it doesn't take a genius to see how one can lead to another can be countered with the likes of Denmark

    Ireland is still in lockdown. How can you compare a locked down country (Ireland) with Austria (released lockdown over a month ago)?


  • #9459
    political analyst
    Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1265940667303448576

    People are dying - or will die - needlessly because of the suspension of screening for those conditions.


  • #9460
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    You didn’t but it’s the way your posts come across. We have lots to be positive about at the moment from where i’m standing.

    Maybe in Ireland. The UK is a disaster movie.


  • #9461
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    political analyst wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1265940667303448576

    People are dying - or will die - needlessly because of the suspension of screening for those conditions.

    I genuinely cannot find a valid reason for these not to continue. Only one I can fathom is the HSE thinks hospital transmission is happening, or possibly lack of PPE.


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  • #9462
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,832 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    fr336 wrote: »
    Maybe it'll make up for all the times I've read your rambling nonsense.

    Yes indeed I've done plenty rambling in my 0.49 posts per day since 2008 ðŸ˜

    Anyway here's hoping for another decline in cases today!


  • #9463
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    fr336 wrote: »
    Ireland is still in lockdown. How can you compare a locked down country (Ireland) with Austria (released lockdown over a month ago)?

    What are you on about ?? Austria started releasing lockdown a month ago, it unlocked hospitality only last week. They did / are doing it in a phased basis.

    Ireland is in lockdown in name, walk around anywhere and it's quite clear people are back out and about and visiting friends and family. We just can't officially do it.

    Your either just looking for an argument or wilfully ignoring the actually stats which I provided in the case of Denmark also.


  • #9464
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fr336 wrote: »
    You are such a troll. Five minutes ago you were accusing me of being too negative, scaremongering. Now I post a sarcastic post showing how silly posters like you are with your "so much scaremongering going on" and you're posting this crap. Troll!

    Actually I haven't accused you of negativity or scaremongering even in the last hour, so lies on your behalf but I have reported the 'troll ' allegation.


  • #9465
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    political analyst wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1265940667303448576

    People are dying - or will die - needlessly because of the suspension of screening for those conditions.

    Absolutely shameful. The death toll from disease that could have been caught early with screening will far outweigh the death toll from covid


  • #9466
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    political analyst wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1265940667303448576

    People are dying - or will die - needlessly because of the suspension of screening for those conditions.

    But hopefully it won't be from Covid


  • #9467
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Absolutely shameful. The death toll from disease that could have been caught early with screening will far outweigh the death toll from covid

    Now is the time to start bringing back these appointments in a manner whereby they will be able to maintain them if there is a second wave, there is nothing I can think of that should be holding this up. The biggest travesty would be not learning from mistakes made and failing to setup the infrastructure to manage this better in the future.


  • #9468
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    fr336 wrote: »
    . The UK is a disaster movie.

    That has improved significantly. At one stage they were having circa 800 deaths they are now down to half that.


  • #9469
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Now is the time to start bringing back these appointments in a manner whereby they will be able to maintain them if there is a second wave, there is nothing I can think of that should be holding this up. The biggest travesty would be not learning from mistakes made and failing to setup the infrastructure to manage this better in the future.

    Fully agree, I fail to see how they could and haven't got a process in place by now for these appointments to restart and continue. Early detection is critical as most people know all too well from personal experiences and family experiences with cancer


  • #9470
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    And this is just for cancer in the UK, its unthinkable how many will die from the non screening for cancer at the moment.

    https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1265930062530072578?s=19


  • #9471
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    That has improved significantly. At one stage they were having circa 800 deaths they are now down to half that.

    Because of lockdown. And because even a stupid government like the UK Tories aren't rushing out of it. Lockdown in May means a fully open economy and society in September, October, November, December. Not having to close down again and again when the politicians get (rightly) terrified by a steep increase in deaths. By the way it's down to more than half that on most days.


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  • #9472
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    fr336 wrote: »
    You are such a troll. Five minutes ago you were accusing me of being too negative, scaremongering. Now I post a sarcastic post showing how silly posters like you are with your "so much scaremongering going on" and you're posting this crap. Troll!


    Mod: @fr336 - I didn't realise we'd made you a moderator of the forum?!

    Seeing as we didn't, wind your neck in.


  • #9473
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I genuinely cannot find a valid reason for these not to continue. Only one I can fathom is the HSE thinks hospital transmission is happening, or possibly lack of PPE.

    In preparation for a surge in the virus, the HSE had to take staff from other areas and redeploy them. We don't know the exact in and outs of the whole entire pandemic preparation and crisis within the HSE. We know that doctors and nurses were particularly susceptible to the virus and there's something also known as viral load that contributes to a dose. It's possible staffing might not be available in some parts of a hospital or HSE settings and services now. Either through sickness or death of even family problems and death in family and mourning etc.


  • #9474
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Good news: UK daily death toll (official government figures not ONS figures) down to 213. Still 213 needless deaths, mind.

    Bad news: UK outbreak still "relatively stable" and infecting 54,000 people per week. Even during a lockdown.

    Positivity!


  • #9475
    Cal4567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Cal4567


    https://www.thejournal.ie/matt-damon-leaving-ireland-5109912-May2020/

    A watershed moment when we come to write the history of Ireland, or has this lockdown become too much for me?


  • #9476
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Cal4567 wrote: »
    https://www.thejournal.ie/matt-damon-leaving-ireland-5109912-May2020/

    A watershed moment when we come to write the history of Ireland, or has this lockdown become too much for me?

    He's The Departed.


  • #9477
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    The dangers of making everything secondary to Covid.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/are-they-working-on-a-plan-cork-widower-wants-clarity-on-cancer-screening-services-1002215.html


  • #9478
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The dangers of making everything secondary to Covid.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/are-they-working-on-a-plan-cork-widower-wants-clarity-on-cancer-screening-services-1002215.html

    Shocking. A fraction of the population affected by Covid, and necessary services grinding to a halt.


  • #9479
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/new-hse-figures-reveal-the-toll-on-care-homes-1.4264196?mode=amp


  • #9480
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Shocking. A fraction of the population affected by Covid, and necessary services grinding to a halt.

    Wonder how this works long term, all this PPE, private hospitals taken over, staff at the ready for a surge. The surge never came, but it might as we ease, might not. At what point do the private hospitals go back to private and public go back to their usual thing. Can't sit on standby forever.


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  • #9481
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Shocking. A fraction of the population affected by Covid, and necessary services grinding to a halt.

    These doomsters and fear mongers are terrible with all their negativity and stories of gloom about the economy.

    First it was 'Ahh shure it's only the flu', then it was 'let the coffin dodgers die while we get on with 'herd immunity' , then 'what about the children's education', now it's 'cancer screening' and 'don't try to clear the island of Covid'.

    Why are they always so negative and why can't they just post happy clappy stuff ?

    :rolleyes:


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