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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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    #8462
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Tinder here I come.


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    #8463
    Benimar
    Registered Users Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Benimar


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Nobody is saying open everything up now. People are saying let's not drag this out this August, phase 1 is what it is, likewise with 2. 3&4 should be merged and 5 brought forward 3 weeks to where 4 was. That means mid July when we're back open.
    I think that's acceptable, all well and good slow and steady but theres slow and then theres snails pace

    You may need to have a read of the Restrictions thread!


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    #8464
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Benimar wrote: »
    You may need to have a read of the Restrictions thread!
    No matter who shouts for everything to open now it's not going to happen, but considering the numbers from the last several weeks and the European experience our roadmap is beyond ridiculous.


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    #8465
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    lbj666 wrote: »
    People are forgetting that we have no indication of how this phase is going yet, transmissions during phase 1 would have only just started showing up in new case number . They wont have a big enough data set to get an R0 estimates for another 10 days or so. Ideally you want to keep the R0 below 1 throughout all the phases or have the base level of cases at a low enough number that an R0 of slightly great than 1 can be managed. The new cases averages are not at that low enough level yet. Remember we shut the schools at 29 new cases (granted it was on a fast upward trend then)

    Hopefully with the meat factoring and nursing homes done now for testing we will see new case numbers drop.

    Also that was 29 cases then, at a very low level of testing. Not sure we can even compare a days cases now with capacity to test far far higher.


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    #8466
    crossman47
    Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Arghus wrote: »
    He's basically inferred that it will come down to other advice that the government will have to weigh up. "If the country was run solely by decisions on public health we'd have a very simple and straightforward job."

    People don't seem to get it: The DOH and NPHET advise on public health and they are going to give recommendations based solely on public health.

    Economics etc, etc aren't part of their remit. They are always going to be cautious in these matters - it's their job. It's up to others to think about public finances, public policy. They give advice and it's ultimately up to the government whether to follow it or not. They've set out their perspective and plans and now the question will be whether the government follows it or not.

    Thats it exactly. I don't know why others can't see that the medical people advise but government must take the broader picture into account.


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    #8467
    [Deleted User]
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Interesting stats here. Thought it would be more 50/50 and if anything maybe more saying it was too slowly:

    https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1264968633211670529

    Surveys with 5 options often return the middle option. When people are unsure they plump for the middle option. Better survey design ives 4 options to force a choice


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    #8468
    shinzon
    Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭shinzon


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Nobody is saying open everything up now. People are saying let's not drag this out this August, phase 1 is what it is, likewise with 2. 3&4 should be merged and 5 brought forward 3 weeks to where 4 was. That means mid July when we're back open.
    I think that's acceptable, all well and good slow and steady but theres slow and then theres snails pace


    Genuinely curious as to why you want this done why not go through the phases as is get to August and be fairly sure we wont slide backwards, lumping phases together just increases the risk that restriction may have to be imposed where as slow and steady at least gives us a better chance that they wont

    Shin


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    #8469
    Indestructable
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    More good news-Spain revised down its death toll by 1900.


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    #8470
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    I don't think anyone should be using the UK as a metric to measure anything against, they've had a bloodbath on the way in and they'll have one on the way out.


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    #8471
    Benimar
    Registered Users Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    No matter who shouts for everything to open now it's not going to happen, but considering the numbers from the last several weeks and the European experience our roadmap is beyond ridiculous.

    That’s your view, I don’t agree, so be it.

    However, the OPs point was that no one wants everything opened now and my reply was to show that some do. Whether it would happen or not is irrelevant to his assertion.


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    #8472
    laurah591
    Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    Indestructable wrote: »
    More good news-Spain revised down its death toll by 1900.

    very good but where was the error.... 1900 seems a very big number?


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    #8473
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Arghus wrote: »
    Typical, zero deaths: which is something to be delighted about and the usual suspects are on banging on about the how the "doom mongers" will react.

    Truly pathetic.

    Not “will react”. Did react. Within moments of it being posted that there were no deaths, there was a flurry of “Yeah but” and “Okay but” posts. Completely dour. That’s what is pathetic.


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    #8474
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    What is the story with Cork new cases were down to single digits over a month ago now averaging 11 new cases over last 7 days? Not really seeing any improvement.


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    #8475
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    laurah591 wrote: »
    very good but where was the error.... 1900 seems a very big number?

    According to RTÉ, the 1,918 deaths were double counted due to an error in the method of reporting. Seems fair enough if most countries caught off guard by this didn’t have a system ready for a pandemic.


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    #8476
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    What is the story with Cork new cases were down to single digits over a month ago now averaging 11 new cases over last 7 days? Not really seeing any improvement.

    Could be down to a meat factory I believe.


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    #8477
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Benimar wrote: »
    That’s your view, I don’t agree, so be it.

    However, the OPs point was that no one wants everything opened now and my reply was to show that some do. Whether it would happen or not is irrelevant to his assertion.
    Actually your reply was to tell the OP to look at another thread to prove your point.


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    #8478
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Overall they have been the right decisions. I'm assuming here you have a list of all their failings!

    I won't be a captain hindsight as I have never believed in our ability to influence a virus no matter what we do or think.

    But we are going to have alot to talk about over the next few years with regards to the "new normal".

    To be honest every time I have visited Ireland over the past 3 years I haven't seen an improvement economically. Thats mainly going on what I see and quality of life linked to cost of living.
    As soon as travel bans are lifted I will come for a visit. Now here's hoping my old man doesn't croak it before then.


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    #8479
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,640 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Could be down to a meat factory I believe.
    I've heard stories of people at that meat factory putting their heads in ice buckets to fake temperature tests down there.


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    #8480
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,363 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Onesea wrote: »
    I won't be a captain hindsight as I have never believed in our ability to influence a virus no matter what we do or think.

    But we are going to have alot to talk about over the next few years with regards to the "new normal".

    To be honest every time I have visited Ireland over the past 3 years I haven't seen an improvement economically. Thats mainly going on what I see and quality of life linked to cost of living.
    As soon as travel bans are lifted I will come for a visit. Now here's hoping my old man doesn't croak it before then.

    So you don't even live here but have plenty of views about Ireland, it's politics and how people should be - none of it complimentary


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    #8481
    GazzaL
    Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Life is nearly back to normal for most people, minus being able to work for many. The 5km restriction has gone out the window. I know a woman who travelled nearly 100km just to get some Vitamin D. The HSE/Government are away with the fairies if they think people are still buying into their plan, it's slowest reopening in Europe, they need to get real.


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    #8482
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    fritzelly wrote: »
    So you don't even live here but have plenty of views about Ireland, it's politics and how people should be - none of it complimentary

    You don't have a clue as to my links with that country.


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    #8483
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    lbj666 wrote: »
    People are forgetting that we have no indication of how this phase is going yet, transmissions during phase 1 would have only just started showing up in new case number . They wont have a big enough data set to get an R0 estimates for another 10 days or so. Ideally you want to keep the R0 below 1 throughout all the phases or have the base level of cases at a low enough number that an R0 of slightly great than 1 can be managed. The new cases averages are not at that low enough level yet. Remember we shut the schools at 29 new cases (granted it was on a fast upward trend then)

    Hopefully with the meat factoring and nursing homes done now for testing we will see new case numbers drop.
    When the schools closed we were probably at around something more like 2900 cases in reality than 29


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    #8484
    podgeandrodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Onesea wrote: »
    You don't have a clue as to my links with that country.

    "that country" doesn't sound very close! :)


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    #8485
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Onesea wrote: »
    I won't be a captain hindsight as I have never believed in our ability to influence a virus no matter what we do or think.

    But we are going to have alot to talk about over the next few years with regards to the "new normal".

    To be honest every time I have visited Ireland over the past 3 years I haven't seen an improvement economically. Thats mainly going on what I see and quality of life linked to cost of living.
    As soon as travel bans are lifted I will come for a visit. Now here's hoping my old man doesn't croak it before then.

    You dont believe you can influence a virus through better hygiene, distancing and the elimination of the majority of person to person interactions? How do you actually think a virus is spread?


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    #8486
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    HON IRELAND

    PUMP OUT THE STOUT BOYS!


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    #8487
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Spare a thought for Covid-19 at this time...............must be feeling very lonely and unwanted (was only doing its thing)


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    #8488
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,402 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Spare a thought for Covid-19 at this time...............must be feeling very lonely and unwanted (was only doing its thing)

    I wouldn’t worry- misery has endless company in this country


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    #8489
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You dont believe you can influence a virus through better hygiene, distancing and the elimination of the majority of person to person interactions? How do you actually think a virus is spread?

    They don't know how contagious it is.
    They do know how contagious it is.
    Its airborne.
    It isn't airborne.
    It survives on surfaces
    It doesn't survive on surfaces
    Kills old and ill, but really only kills the old.
    All of society stops even tho all cases are in one area.
    Countrys have reopened, yet the Irish must remain at home.
    Italy reoped. Denmark and a few others too with no spread.
    No epidemic amoung front line retail workers reported.
    Numbers in Sweden.. So much worse without intervention?
    McDonald's open, yet cancer screening stopped
    Then there is the coroner's input into deaths or the lack of.


    96.5% of covid 19 deaths were 60 or older. In Italy.

    Why is a whole nation locked up and routinely fed fear. It doesn't take the need for a cmo to see a strategy from the stats.

    Haven't big street parties been happening in council estates for a few weeks now, lots of kids don't social distance. Taking a very long time for the penny to drop.


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    #8490
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Positive cases found in 60 different Amazonian tribes
    https://english.newstracklive.com/news/corona-virus-infected-60-tribes-in-amazon-forest-mc24-nu764-ta294-1095083-1.html

    God Brazil is such a mess right now.


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    #8491
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,866 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Onesea wrote:
    Why is a whole nation locked up and routinely fed fear. It doesn't take the need for a cmo to see a strategy from the stats.
    Because there's a pack of idiots out there that won't listen to anybody. Like for instance a lad who came back from Cheltenham and didn't self-isolate went back to work and three days later has symptoms. Co-worker who had done his best to be careful then comes down with the virus but it's too late because he was looking after his parents who both got it, his father died, his mother was in ICU but recovered.
    What should we do with the clown who didn't listen to anybody?


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