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FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    It will change. Guaranteed.

    Our economy is utterly dependent on the global economy. For example 11.2 million tourists in 2019....what will 2020 bring??
    I love your optimism:rolleyes:
    I dont know what the plan is worldwide post coffid
    Everyone will be printing money which means a world wide reset
    Tourists will eventually come back
    That's also a worldwide problem
    Now where is MarkO 'Everyone who criticises FG is a Shinner' Daly with those Fine Gael policies that revived the economy? So naïve.
    I dont know but I'm waiting for Francie to answer the question I asked ie where NPHET said the government isnt following all of its recommendations or was that more of his fake news

    I guess we'll both wait together
    I'll open a window and stay 2m apart at all times


  • Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭Horsebox9000


    smurgen wrote: »
    One tiny example of FG playing with optics, posing for pictures trying to take the praise for things and subsequently trying to distance themselves when begin to fall apart is summed up beautifully by the fiasco that is the Cork Even Center

    https://twitter.com/CorkEventCentre/status/766053302857506817?s=19

    There's whataboutery and then there is this.
    Should FG have predicted the future?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Its a stupid question. See my post above which you chose to ignore. I know why.

    It's not a stupid question, But to answer your inference, I'm allowed to put my phone down for a few minutes
    Coffid 19 spend will not be frowned upon by markets
    Austerity is recognised as not being an answer to our current unprecedented close down ,the hint is in the exceptional income replacing measures governments are taking
    I'm expecting a world wide reset


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I love your optimism:rolleyes:
    I dont know what the plan is worldwide post coffid
    Everyone will be printing money which means a world wide reset
    Tourists will eventually come back
    That's also a worldwide problem


    I dont know but I'm waiting for Francie to answer the question I asked ie where NPHET said the government isnt following all of its recommendations or was that more of his fake news

    I guess we'll both wait together
    I'll open a window and stay 2m apart at all times

    Why do you always trim my posts and answer zero questions? You completely removed my fundamental point on the borrowing rates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    There's whataboutery and then there is this.
    Should FG have predicted the future?

    What future?that saga is going on since 2016.mirrors their current behaviour perfectly. Photo ops to look impressive and then no solutions and distancing when this get messy. Simon and Lieo are fur coat and no knickers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If you can get the Shinners out of your headspace for a moment...this is absolutely true.




    Well, YES. Scroll abck and i have commented on where I think the messed up. Allowing the Italian mess - Testing and getting results to people. FG's addiction to PR stunts. etc.

    I am responsible for the incidence of criminality? What the hell????



    So you would stand by and allow people to mess up without opening your mouth to criticise them?

    Where you in HSE management before this crisis perhaps?

    I have no issues with 'front line staff' and quote myself from earlier here:

    'We can see that if the HSE is properly resourced and tasked how good it can be'.

    It interesting that when all else fails that you start multi quoting an answer and attacking the poster. I presume the Where is a Were and the answer is NO I was not in HSE managment and before you ask another futile question I have never worked in the HSE, contracted into it, worked for a company that contracted into or that supplies any services or materials to it.

    There is a very thin line between being critical and causing panic. Havs and will there be mistakes made yes there will and have been. But in general the Government Health officials and HSE have responded very well. Unjustificable criticism can lead to panic and casuing stress to people. This is not the same as the water charges debate, people lives are at risk. People will die that is the reality no matter what steps we take. It about minimizing these risks and deaths as far as possible.
    smurgen wrote: »
    What future?that saga is going on since 2016.mirrors their current behaviour perfectly. Photo ops to look impressive and then no solutions and distancing when this get messy. Simon and Lieo are fur coat and no knickers.


    more rubbish

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Why do you always trim my posts and answer zero questions? You completely removed my fundamental point on the borrowing rates.

    But I still answered it though
    Tourism will recover
    The economy has been switched off worldwide
    The kitchen sink is being thrown at and promised to the fall out worldwide
    Ergo,there will be no lack of stimulus problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    What are the comparisons/competition about?

    This can be scrutinised and commented on without the need to compare. If somebody dies needlessly here it is of no importance to them or their families how they might have fared elsewhere.

    There’s not much point in a discussion forum if people are going to narrow the scope of the discussion just to suit their own arguments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It interesting that when all else fails that you start multi quoting an answer and attacking the poster. I presume the Where is a Were and the answer is NO I was not in HSE managment and before you ask another futile question I have never worked in the HSE, contracted into it, worked for a company that contracted into or that supplies any services or materials to it.

    There is a very thin line between being critical and causing panic. Havs and will there be mistakes made yes there will and have been. But in general the Government Health officials and HSE have responded very well. Unjustificable criticism can lead to panic and casuing stress to people. This is not the same as the water charges debate, people lives are at risk. People will die that is the reality no matter what steps we take. It about minimizing these risks and deaths as far as possible.




    more rubbish
    I apologise I was in the garden and the spelling grammar could have been better.

    Again... I have said several times that the overall response has been good.

    Why do you, as part of your defense refuse to recognise that and try and portray people with a criticism or suggestion as people with problems.

    FG are fallible as is the HSE. Get over it.
    This is a discussion forum not an echo chamber...get over it.

    Repeated lapses and mistakes can cause panic and stress too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    tobsey wrote: »
    There’s not much point in a discussion forum if people are going to narrow the scope of the discussion just to suit their own arguments.

    Oh there's plenty here trying to narrow the scope alright. 'Whatever you say, say nothing' etc etc. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    The best thing FG can do is leave it to competent professionals as they seem to be doing. Let Varadkar have his smiling selfies, he was found out many months ago. All the 'we are in this together' good will won't change his abilities nor that of his colleagues and the public know this.
    They are bereft of empathy and selfish people who look after their own. They did it during the aftermath of the last financial crisis and they'll be doing it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    Bowie wrote: »
    The best thing FG can do is leave it to competent professionals as they seem to be doing. Let Varadkar have his smiling selfies, he was found out many months ago. All the 'we are in this together' good will won't change his abilities nor that of his colleagues and the public know this.
    They are bereft of empathy and selfish people who look after their own. They did it during the aftermath of the last financial crisis and they'll be doing it now.
    Any chance your crystal ball has next week’s lotto numbers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Bowie wrote: »
    The best thing FG can do is leave it to competent professionals as they seem to be doing. Let Varadkar have his smiling selfies, he was found out many months ago. All the 'we are in this together' good will won't change his abilities nor that of his colleagues and the public know this.
    They are bereft of empathy and selfish people who look after their own. They did it during the aftermath of the last financial crisis and they'll be doing it now.

    Another everything right is the health officials and everything wrong is the FG's fault.

    A government job is leadership which the government is giving in spades

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    What has that got to do with this threads title or is it the case that you want your posts(across the entire of boards) to average 99.8% moaning instead of 99.79?

    That poster is from Cork and has posted that tweet about a dozen times at this stage in the Cork Forum.

    The guy is a classic SF fanboy, in all but name.

    Anything bad that happened over the past 9 years, its FG's fault. blah blah blah, whinge, moan, cry, etc...

    What this has to do with the OP itself, well nothing really.
    This thread is just a magnet for malcontents and cranks. Like flies to a fresh pile of dung, they will come. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    But I still answered it though
    Tourism will recover
    The economy has been switched off worldwide
    The kitchen sink is being thrown at and promised to the fall out worldwide
    Ergo,there will be no lack of stimulus problem

    No you didn't answer it. You avoid all the stuff you don't like.

    Let's start again. You said borrowing rates will stay low and never change.

    I replied that they will change.

    You trimmed my reply and only responded on tourism which was a minor point (an example)

    Please reply to the points below the ...
    It will change. Guaranteed.

    Our economy is utterly dependent on the global economy. For example 11.2 million tourists in 2019....what will 2020 bring??

    ...

    Our GDP will shrink fast now and will go back to being one of the highest Debt-GDP ratios in the EU (100%+ as it was in 2011-2014).

    The countries with the best Debt:GDP ratios in 2021 will get the best borrowing rates. That will not be us.

    The national debt contains 64 billion of private banking losses not including the interest to service that private debt. At least Enda got us some favours on being the best pupil in the class...Oh wait, he didn't. Not another red cent...

    FF and FG mismanagement of our country over the past 20 years will come back to haunt us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    They're doing alright

    More citizens should follow the restrictions


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bowie wrote: »
    The best thing FG can do is leave it to competent professionals as they seem to be doing. Let Varadkar have his smiling selfies, he was found out many months ago. All the 'we are in this together' good will won't change his abilities nor that of his colleagues and the public know this.
    They are bereft of empathy and selfish people who look after their own. They did it during the aftermath of the last financial crisis and they'll be doing it now.

    All in it together my hole.

    https://twitter.com/JoeLeogue/status/1246708989934669824?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    What has that got to do with this threads title or is it the case that you want your posts(across the entire of boards) to average 99.8% moaning instead of 99.79?

    It's Finnerbots like yourself who cannot stop pissing and moaning since ye got wooped by the electorate. Leo and Coveney getting in after multiple counts really left a sting. Ye better get used to it mind because they days of ye resting on laurels is over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    markodaly wrote: »
    That poster is from Cork and has posted that tweet about a dozen times at this stage in the Cork Forum.

    The guy is a classic SF fanboy, in all but name.

    Anything bad that happened over the past 9 years, its FG's fault. blah blah blah, whinge, moan, cry, etc...

    What this has to do with the OP itself, well nothing really.
    This thread is just a magnet for malcontents and cranks. Like flies to a fresh pile of dung, they will come. :pac:

    So no discussion on my post? FG have been even more useless in Cork than almost anywhere else. What have they done for Cork since coming to power? What infrastructure projects for Cork have they deployed in the last 10 years?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    No you didn't answer it. You avoid all the stuff you don't like.

    Let's start again. You said borrowing rates will stay low and never change.

    I replied that they will change.
    No they won't
    You trimmed my reply and only responded on tourism which was a minor point

    Please reply to the points
    That's incorrect
    I answered without cluuttering up the post
    Money will be printed,interest rates will be low,stimulus, stimulus, stimulus where needed
    Spv's will be constructed to package the borrowing and stimulus response
    Tourists will be back eventually
    Your doomsday scenario is predicated on none of those 3 happening
    There is no appetite in governments anywhere to follow up the pandemic damage with austerity and governments are on record stating this
    It is that simple


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    smurgen wrote: »
    So no discussion on my post? FG have been even more useless in Cork than almost anywhere else. What have they done for Cork since coming to power? What infrastructure projects for Cork have they deployed in the last 10 years?

    The thread is about the next 5 years,not some bug bear of yours from 4 years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    smurgen wrote: »
    It's Finnerbots like yourself who cannot stop pissing and moaning since ye got wooped by the electorate. Leo and Coveney getting in after multiple counts really left a sting. Ye better get used to it mind because they days of ye resting on laurels is over.

    I'm afraid, its a tad un erudite of you to be lecturing me on moaning when all of your posts are moans,whilst most of mine are positive
    Fact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy



    He will be answering phone lines. I thought when I seen the headline he was going to be rolling up the sleeves and being deployed to the front line testing or treating patients.


    Better than doing the square root of fcuk all I suppose.
    It is understood the Taoiseach is helping out in phone assessments. Anyone who may have been exposed to Covid-19 is initially assessed over the phone rather than in person, to curb the spread of the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    At least he has qualifications that are useful unlike the other party leaders who have the "square root of fcuk" all to contribute themselves.

    Fair play to him contributing with what he has to contribute.

    Also was registered in March so not like it was dreamt up over night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    At least he has qualifications that are useful unlike the other party leaders who the "square root of fcuk" all to contribute themselves.

    Fair play to him contributing with what he has to contribute.

    What a strange train of thought, are you seriously complaining that other party leaders aren't medically qualified:confused:

    Are medical qualifications now something you believe all party leaders should have before entering politics?
    Also was registered in March so not like it was dreamt up over night.

    March was last week.

    Fairplay to Leo for giving a dig out on the phone lines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    McMurphy wrote: »
    What a strange train of thought, are you seriously complaining that other party leaders aren't medically qualified:confused:

    Are medical qualifications now something you believe all party leaders should have before entering politics?



    March was last week.

    Fairplay to Leo for giving a dig out on the phone lines.

    If you are a Shinner can you tell us if 3 time college dropout Pearse Doherty is a qualified engineer?

    Actually can you tell us who is qualified in anything among SF TDs?

    FF are not much better either.

    It's just begrudgery really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    At least he has qualifications that are useful unlike the other party leaders who have the "square root of fcuk" all to contribute themselves.

    Fair play to him contributing with what he has to contribute.

    Also was registered in March so not like it was dreamt up over night.

    Fair play to him. Like I've been saying since by the election he should go back the medicine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    If you are a Shinner can you tell us if 3 time college dropout Pearse Doherty is a qualified engineer?

    Actually can you tell us who is qualified in anything among SF TDs?

    FF are not much better either.

    It's just begrudgery really.

    I'm not a shinner, I'm not wedded to any party Kermit, party faithfulness is what has politics in the toilet in this country, but I see a fairly common and recurring theme on these boards, say something even encroaching negativity about FG/govt deflect to something something Sinn Fein.

    BTW - you seem to get pretty hung up on people's qualifications, and trying to imply a lack of them somehow diminishes anyone's input.

    I will however point out that took Doherty (a 3 time engineering drop out) to point out a gaping hole in financially prudent and responsible FGs calculations.

    The phantom €2 billion: How everyone except Sinn Féin got the maths wrong

    Maybe he is one of those "so stupid he's smart" kind of guys, I dunno.

    Now, quickly Kermit, off you go and pivot onto something else........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭christy c


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Maybe he is one of those "so stupid he's smart" kind of guys

    No, just stupid IMO. Only a few weeks ago he wanted to slash the tax base and reduce the pension age.

    The other possibility is that he was smart enough to spot the 2 billion hole and he knows the consequences of his proposals but goes ahead anyway just to increase his party's share of the vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    McMurphy wrote: »
    What a strange train of thought, are you seriously complaining that other party leaders aren't medically qualified:confused:

    Are medical qualifications now something you believe all party leaders should have before entering politics?



    March was last week.

    Fairplay to Leo for giving a dig out on the phone lines.

    I am not sure if it was on this thread but some lads were having a cut at Simon over his qualifications a day or two back. As a not overly qualified person I never get hung up.on it. I never let on I have an economic's or other qualifications. But it is worth noting that the government reaction to the situation was top class compared to our neighbors. They did not need the Ard Comhairle tell them they should have closed the schools

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    I am not sure if it was on this thread but some lads were having a cut at Simon over his qualifications a day or two back. As a not overly qualified person I never get hung up.on it. I never let on I have an economic's or other qualifications. But it is worth noting that the government reaction to the situation was top class compared to our neighbors. They did not need the Ard Comhairle tell them they should have closed the schools

    Your benchmark is chronic though.the UK is a basket case now. Funny wasn't some anti SF lad in here last week screaming that left leaning countries were in the situation they were over socialist policies? Saying the UK & US would come out of all this swimmingly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    smurgen wrote: »
    Your benchmark is chronic though.the UK is a basket case now. Funny wasn't some anti SF lad in here last week screaming that left leaning countries were in the situation they were over socialist policies? Saying the UK & US would come out of all this swimmingly?

    Not me I think it was more lads showing that it was.not just a few extreme right wing countries but that a few left leaning countries were adapting that approach as well

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    smurgen wrote: »
    Your benchmark is chronic though.the UK is a basket case now. Funny wasn't some anti SF lad in here last week screaming that left leaning countries were in the situation they were over socialist policies? Saying the UK & US would come out of all this swimmingly?

    By the way I did not realize that Hancock and Johnson took advice from the Ard Comhairle

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I am not sure if it was on this thread but some lads were having a cut at Simon over his qualifications a day or two back. As a not overly qualified person I never get hung up.on it. I never let on I have an economic's or other qualifications. But it is worth noting that the government reaction to the situation was top class compared to our neighbors. They did not need the Ard Comhairle tell them they should have closed the schools

    You may need to run through this one with me because I don't follow, didn't the health experts advise our temp govt to close the schools here?

    What relevance does the Ard Comhairle have to your post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You may need to run through this one with me because I don't follow, didn't the health experts advise our temp govt to close the schools here?

    What relevance does the Ard Comhairle have to your post?

    Did poor auld Michelle not agree with Arlene that they did not need to close the school's at one stage and 24 hours later change her mind. It rumoured the AC insisted on her changing her position. By the puss of her at the news conference with Arlene the following day someone gave out to her anyway

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0313/1122061-coronavirus-covid19-northern-ireland/

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Did poor auld Michelle not agree with Arlene that they did not need to close the school's at one stage and 24 hours later change her mind. It rumoured the AC insisted on her changing her position. By the puss of her at the news conference with Arlene the flowing day someone gave out to her anyway

    I have no idea if she did or didn't tbh, as I was more worried about what was happening on our own doorsteps, but I was under the impression SF were wanting an all island response to the pandemic north and south?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I have no idea if she did or didn't tbh, as I was more worried about what was happening on our own doorsteps, but I was under the impression SF were wanting an all island response to the pandemic north and south?

    Well poor auld Michelle got her wires crossed somewhere.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,051 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Did poor auld Michelle not agree with Arlene that they did not need to close the school's at one stage and 24 hours later change her mind. It rumoured the AC insisted on her changing her position. By the puss of her at the news conference with Arlene the following day someone gave out to her anyway

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0313/1122061-coronavirus-covid19-northern-ireland/

    And she had no compunction changing her mind. Unfortunately it took Arlene some time more to change hers and she is still not fully on board in securing the island we are all on..regardless of our politics or religion or loyalties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,132 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    And she had no compunction changing her mind. Unfortunately it took Arlene some time more to change hers and she is still not fully on board in securing the island we are all on..regardless of our politics or religion or loyalties.

    The DUP don't have science, they have faith

    https://twitter.com/DUPleader/status/1246789806618824711


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen



    Weird that I've seen more people giving out about people giving out about Leo than giving out about him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    The DUP don't have science, they have faith

    https://twitter.com/DUPleader/status/1246789806618824711

    And a handful of them blaming the virus on God's wrath over abortion laws and same sex marriage. They're like Ireland's own Westboro Baptist church.


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    smurgen wrote: »
    Weird that I've seen more people giving out about people giving out about Leo than giving out about him.

    A lot of people are either staunch party supporters, simpletons, ignorant or just very desperate to part of a online social grouping as they are extremely lonely in real life.


    Realistically, we are screwed. Massive debt, massive mismanagement, massive corruption for years. But the powers that be can rely on the fools of this country to grab onto the tiny good that they may do once in a while and run with it instead of actually realising the full extent of the problems.

    To think that praise is given to a few for pulling out the finger and doing a little when they are actually paid an enormous amount of money to do much more than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    smurgen wrote: »
    So no discussion on my post? FG have been even more useless in Cork than almost anywhere else. What have they done for Cork since coming to power? What infrastructure projects for Cork have they deployed in the last 10 years?

    N22 Macroom bypass
    M28 Upgrade (blocked by Cork people)
    Dunkettle upgrade due to start this year

    That is just off the top of my head.

    Many industries are booming in Cork, especially pharma, Agri-Business and IT. Benfiting by policies laid out by FG.

    I am not sure what SF have earmarked especially for Cork, but please do tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    smurgen wrote: »
    Weird that I've seen more people giving out about people giving out about Leo than giving out about him.
    Was going to say the same thing. I haven't heard or seen any comments at all, except his spin team and backers.
    I think it's more for our benefit, to make sure that we know he's doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    McMurphy wrote: »


    Better than doing the square root of fcuk all I suppose.

    Well, its what most of the malcontents here are doing to be fair.n
    You think Francie. Smurgen et all are rolling up their sleaves for the national good? Nah, better off travelling through twitter and sharing with us stuff the government appear to be doing wrong.

    But I think Francie think that this is a national service.
    Its like they think they are part of some 'Nights Watch' :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    If you are a Shinner can you tell us if 3 time college dropout Pearse Doherty is a qualified engineer?

    Actually can you tell us who is qualified in anything among SF TDs?

    FF are not much better either.

    It's just begrudgery really.

    That is a good question actually.

    Are there any actual professional in their top rank?
    What is MLD qualified in?
    I know Louise o'Reilly was a Union Rep, which explains a lot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    markodaly wrote: »
    That is a good question actually.

    Are there any actual professional in their top rank?
    What is MLD qualified in?
    I know Louise o'Reilly was a Union Rep, which explains a lot!
    Why is it a good question?
    It's very easy to look up.

    What would be the point? Is your point that it takes somebody qualified to f*ck up the country and spread corruption?
    Leo and James Reilly are both qualified doctors, and didn't they do a great job as ministers of health... :rolleyes:.


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